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Mabel's best match was probably in the tag team title match at WM10 or the tag team match ay IYH2. Nothing great by any means, probably **1/4 or so, but I can't think of anything better. Virgil/Dibiase was well booked and the crowd was really into it. Virgil wasn't a horrible worker back in the day. Haku/Sting was from GAB95, not 96. How about Crush/Brian Adams? What about Duggan? Kama/Godfather? Kurrgan? Tiger Ali Singh?

Who? And I'll just wait til someone reports this with all caps in the title since my computer craps out too much on Meltzers site. Bryan Danielson=American Dragon I know, but pretend I'm a mark who only watches WWE. Random WWE Mark: Whos Brian Danielson? The best wrestler you've never seen, motherfucker. But yeah, Raven's right. In general, at that size, you have to do the flippity floppity stuff.

Cade does a really nice top rope elbow drop.

Rosey beats a jobber. Are they EVER going to get rid of the stupid superhero gimmick?

Heel...face... It doesn't matter if they don't give you any chance to get some sort of a character over. I don't care what the hell London is as long as they PUSH HIM.

I think everyone's forgetting about Billy Gunn! Smoking Gunns debuted as faces. Turned heel in late 95/early 96. Turned face along with DX in 1998. Turned heel before his KOTR win in 1999. Turned face and got back with Road Dogg in September 1999. Turned heel when DX reformed in November of 1999. After his injury, he returned as a babyface in 2000. Turned heel in his tag team with Big Show. (Not sure about this one) Turned face for the Invasion angle. Turned heel for the Billy and Chuck tag team. Turned face after the "wedding". That's 10 turns right there, and I'm probably missing more. Plus the it looked like he'd return from injury at the Rumble this year as a cocky heel, but then he just came back as the old babyface Billy Gunn.

Test: Debuted as a heel Turned face and joined the Union. Turned heel and joined T&A Turned face when they split Turned heel during the Invasion. Turned face with the whole Testicles debacle Turned heel on Stacy. That's 6 turns in 5 years right there...unless there's more I'm forgetting.

Here's a fuller report of the RAW show from the Torch. I don't know if it was the economy or whether fans stayed away in droves after Triple H and Ric Flair were scratched from the announced card, but only 1,000 or 1,500 fans attended the Raw house show in Saginaw. Less than half as many fans as attended a house show that I attended there two years ago where Scott Steiner and RVD wrestled Triple H and Ric Flair in the main event if memory serves me right. You would have thought it was a Smackdown House Show as the crowd sat on its hands most of the night. The loudest chants by far were "Rest Holds Suck" and when Molly Holly wrestled in a fatal four way against Lita, Jazz and Victoria, the chant directed at Molly was "Chin Strap" as Molly had the ugliest wig I have ever seen fastened to her peach fuzzy head with a Chin Strap. To start the show, Stacy Keibler came out, showed off the longest legs in the world and welcomed everyone to Raw in Saginaw. Then Johnny Nitro came out and told Stacy only hot people are allowed to stand in the middle of the ring and told her to stand off to the side. Nitro said Eric Bischoff had put him in charge of the show that night and Ric Flair and Triple H would not be there. Lots of boos. He said the main event would be Batista versus Chris Benoit (1) Hurricane & Rosey defeated La Resistance. Standard match by both teams with Hurricane and Rosey combining on a move that looked like an airplane spin into a neck breaker to win. Suddenly Eugene came out clutching a stuffed Easter Bunny and began gladhanding with ringside fans while the referee tried to get him to go to the back. All Eugene wanted to do was to shake Hurricane's hand and he was content to head backstage. Eugene was one of the more over wrestlers Saturday night. (2) Garrison Cade defeated Tajiri. Cade got no crowd reaction at all. Except a few ringsiders who yelled that he looked like Barry Windham. Tajiri, as always, threw some very realistic kicks. If Cade was trained by HBK, he has a long way to go to have a fraction of his heat. (3) Victoria won a Fatal Four-way Women's Match over Molly Holly, Lita, and Jazz.. Lita and Victoria wound up pinning Molly and Jazz simultaneously and then wrestled a technical match until Lita missed on a move off the top rope and Victoria rolled her up. Suddenly, there was Eugene again clutching his Easter Bunny and a box of marshmallow Easter candies he fed to Lita and Victoria who were happy to oblige. Suddenly, William Regal came out and threw the candies to the floor and scolded Eugene with one of those looks he does so well. (4) Eugene beat A-Train. A-Train raced out to Shave Your Back chants. This is where the crowd found that Eugene could actually wrestle. During the match, A-Train tore up the Easter Bunny and Eugene then tried to gather up the pieces. While clutching what was left of the Easter Bunny, Eugene sort of outsmarted A-Train when he tried to crush him in the corner and A-Train knocked himself out after hitting the turnbuckle. I had some misgivings about this Eugene angle with Regal, but now I think it will be an overwhelming success at getting laughs anyway. It wasn't very offending, if at all offending. (5) Kane beat Rhyno. A forgettable match with Kane winning with his power moves. Edge then raced out and after nearly being chokeslammed and speared Kane, who looked real pissed storyline wise anyway, The crowd didn't know who the heel was in the Rhyno Kane match and cheered both. (6) Randy Orton fought Shelton Benjamin to a draw so Orton retained the IC Title. This was the worst of the night. Once again, Johnny Nitro came out and told fans that Bischoff had told him to make it a two-out-of-three fall 20-minute match. Boring chants filled the air for most of the next 20 minutes as Orton and Benjamin tried to wrestle the deliberate style McMahon wants to prevent injury. Neither wrestler sold the holds well and the crowd booed and chanted boring.. The best wrestling was in the 20th minute when Benjamin rolled up Orton and had a two count when the bell rang and the referee declared a draw. Benjamin got some polite applause and Orton was greeted by the squeals of love struck girls sitting ringside. Ten-minute intermission. (7) Chris Jericho defeated Christian in one of the best matches of the night, but no Trish Stratus was present. Jericho was extremely over with the crowd who rejoiced when he defeated Christian with the Walls of Jericho. (8) Matt Hardy, who also was popular with the crowd, defeated Chuck Palumbo who was taunted with chants like "You Have No Gimmick" and "You Suck, Billy told us." (9) Chris Benoit beat Batista to retain the World Hvt. Title. Benoit carried Batista to a match that was okay, but that's about it, Crowd did pop when Benoit defeated him with crossface and when Cade and Orton ran in to triple team Benoit. Tajiri then ran in, sprayed Orton with green mist and the night was over on a fairly high note. It was obvious Saturday that Evolution is only as good as the sum of its four parts. There were times when Batista and Orton looked lost. And Johnny Nitro must be taught how to speak in the ring mike. Two of the three times he gave a promo, I could barely hear him and I was in the second row.

WWE house show report 4-10 Ames by Cris Groves Easter weekend in a college town really hurt the # of fans in attendenace I think. There were less people tonight at Hilton than there was at Vets in Des Moines, IA back in Jan.of this year....onto the show (matches may be out of order) 1.) Rico w. Miss Jackie vs. Stamboli w. Nunzio----Hot crowd behind Rico for the opening match....on the outside Nunzio kisses Jackie but later in the match she gets even by slapping Stamboli across the face & Rico pulls him backwards down across his knees for 1-2-3. ---Torrie Wilson comes out and says r we ready for a hot show....Smackdown GM Kurt Angle makes the save & tells Torrie to get the hell out of his ring & she does after she moons the crowd.....Angle says Dudleys had a mtahc for the Tag Titles tonight but he's axing it since here at smackdown you have to show the GM respect....out come Dudleys and then theyre attacked from behind by Billy Kidman and Paul London 2.) Dudleyz vs. Kidman/London....I didnt know Kidman and London were heels now where the heck have I been? Hot tags between Kidman & London while working on Dvon until he makes the tag to Bubba.....3d eventually on London for the 3 count. 3.) Billy Gunn vs. Horseshoe----Gunn got his ass kicked until he hit the fameasser for the 3 count. Crowd really got behind chanting "Horseshit" a few times. -Theodore R. Long comes out saying behind every good white man is a black man etc. gets all his lines in.... 4.) Jindrak w. Long vs. Orlando Jordan-----Jordan looked a lot better in the ring than the last time I saw him on smackdown he could be something if he got his face on TV. Jindrak wins. 5.) Triple Threat Crusierweight Title: Chavo w. Chavo Sr. vs. Spike vs. Noble-------Noble was sporting new tights that were purple with some black design on the sides....Chavo got Noble to side with him until turning on him. Spike gets thrown to the outside for the 2nd time & is out while Chavo rolls up Noble & holds on to Chavo Sr's Hands for an assist & the win to retain the title. 6.) WWE Tag Titles: Rikishi/Scotty vs. Bashams----Scotty slaps Rikishi on the ass a couple times & then gets beat by the bashams until he makes the hot tag to Rikishi....Rikishi goes for the stinkface but the Bashams switch out of the corner & Rikishi receives low blow but then Scotty actually applies the worm followed by a Rikishi kick for the 3 count.....They grab a young boy from front row and they dance in the ring including the boy doing his own worm then Scotty tells the kid to sit in the corner which he does....Scotty tries to get Rikishi to give the boy a stinkface Rikishi teases doing it but eventually just waves bye bye to him....VERY FUNNY segment! ---Intermission--- 7.) RVD vs. Haas (wore black trunks)----Got in all the moves and RVD won with the Frogsplash.....Great RVD houseshow match as usual like the previous 5 times he's been here...always shines high....Both men got standing ovation when they both left. ----GM Kurt Angle comes out saying tonight Cena puts US Title up against Dupree & Eddie takes on LBJ, JBL & Eddie won't leave Iowa with the title, Kurt will make sure of it....out comes Dawn Marie saying she hasnt had a job since Heyman left...says she could rub Kurts shoulders & buff his medals etc. & says she respects Angle unlike Torrie Wilson....out comes Torrie & the catfight begins...they roll ontop of Angle during it & he doesnt mind at all & neither would I.....Torrie eventually rips Dawn's pants off showing that she was wearing a pink thong....Dawn runs away & Torrie leaves with her pants as Angle says the main event starts now...... 8.) US Title: Cena vs. Dupree(wearing purple robe).-----Cena comes out and does his shtick & out comes Dupree. Dupree says children should look to him as a role model not John Cena.....Cena gets crowd to chant "Rene is gay" & Dupree leaves and gets counted out.....Cena said the fans came to see Cena kick some ass so he teased FUing Brian Hebner & had him up on his shoulders until Dupree came back but then got FUed by Cena. 9.) WWE Championship: Eddie vs. Bradshaw, JBL----JBL said he was tired of having to pay more taxes for illegals etc....& thw crowd was behind him until he said the state of Iowa just sux. JBL said once he wins the title tonight he will never come back to defend it in Iowa....out comes Eddie in a bad looking lowrider.....Most of the match was JBL with a arm hook on Eddie and after 2 1/2 hrs crowd was losing interest.....JBL hits the clothesline from hell but only gets a 2count......Eddie then hits frogsplash for only a 2 count! No one could believe it.....ref bump on Hebner & out comes GM Kurt Angle...Angle tossed the championship belt in for JBL but Eddie ends up using it on JBL instead....Hebner comes to as Eddie tosses the title to Angle and falls down.......Angle quickly tosses the belt high in the air out of the ring....Hebner gets Angle out of the ring and Eddie scoots over onto JBL for the 3 count.... -----Eddie thanked the fans for coming out to support him and the wwe especially on Easter weekend & wished everyone a Happy Easter to close the show Biggest POPS: Cena, Scotty/Rikishi, Angle, Eddie, Rico, RVD Biggest HEAT: Dupree, JBL, Horseshit I mean Horseshoe, FBI, Angle(just a cpl times) On a side note the big names missing were Big Show, Rey Mysterio, Booker T., Undertaker.......also if they're going with Eddie vs. JBL for the main event at Judgement Day then we're in some need of desperate help! ==================================================== WWE house show results 4-10 Saginaw by Brett Wolverton WWF RAW at the Saginaw County Event Center, Saginaw, Michigan Rosey & Hurricane beat La Resistance Garrison Cade beat Tajiri Women's Champion Victoria beat Molly Holly, Lita, and Jazz in a four way elimination match Eugene beat A-Train Kane beat Rhyno Intercontinental Champion Randy Orton wrestled Shelton Benjamin to 20 minute draw in a best 2 out of 3 fall match. They were tied at 1 fall a piece. Chris Jericho beat Christian Matt Hardy V.1 beat Chuck Palumbo World Champion Chris Benoit beat Batista-Johnny Nitro was the special referee ==================================================== So Bradshaw kicking out of the frog splash but getting hit with the belt for the pin...what we can expect at JD? And in case you missed it...EUGENE BEAT A-TRAIN.

Okay, so the WWF decided to make Billy Gunn their 1999 King of the Ring. Sure, it wouldn't be my first choice, and probably not yours either, but they did. They needed another upper card heel, so this was supposed to be the start of a big push for Billy. Fine. Wouldn't have been my first choice, but that's what they decided. But then the booking got weird. The night after King of the Ring, on a night that should be all about getting Gunn over as the next big heel, he gets pinned...by BRADSHAW. He gets pinned cleanly by the Rock in a six man tag match in July. At the "rights to the DX name" match at Fully Loaded, he gets pinned by Road Dogg, and not Chyna. He jobs to Undertaker on an episode of Heat. He jobs cleanly to Rock at Summerslam. He turns face and jobs to new champion HHH in September. Road Dogg comes back, and the Outlaws return. My question is, why did they half ass his push so much? Did they realize right away he was a flop? Or did they never have confidence in him to be a major heel in the first place? Whether you think he deserved the push or not, you have to admit the way it was done was pretty weird.

But what had Edge done to get an IC title shot at Fully Loaded in the first place? Was there any issue with Jarrett?

I heard that too...the weird thing is that it really seemed like they were going towards a Jarrett/Austin feud, too. Maybe that was a post-Summerslam feud idea or something.

I remember hearing that originally, Steve Austin was supposed to feud with Jeff Jarrett (hence the stunner he gives him at Fully Loaded), but obviously Austin didn't want to work with him because he "didn't run the ropes hard enough". My question is was the original plan for Summerslam Austin vs. Jarrett? Or maybe a four corners with Austin, Jarrett, HHH, and Mankind? It seems like they really wanted to get the title on HHH then...or were they really going to give it to Jarrett? What was the original plan? Also, was the Edge/Gangrel feud ever blown off? And what lead to Edge getting an IC title shot against Jarrett at Fully Loaded?

Why did Kelly (Tiffany Amber Thiessen) leave the show for a year or whatever it was?

WOW! Every high school in my area lets you go out for lunch. You're probably thinking Elementary School. Well here they never let you go out of lunch at the high schools or you would get in trouble for skipping class or something. But, I did have some friends that went to high school in Cali. and FL. and they said that they got to go off campus for lunch. Oh man, that sucks for you guys. I went out to lunch every single day. And we got free soda at Wendy's.

I think it's easy to forget the kid's only 20. Hopefully he gets a lot better in the ring, though I don't know if the Cena feud is the right thing for him just yet. The future is definitely bright, though.

Good match. 619 by Rey to Kidman, Kidman hits a facejam on Nunzio. Akio takes out Kidman. Rey dives onto them. Nunzio misses a pescado. Cool sunset flip spot with Kidman/Akio/Rey. Great dropkick to a leaping Rey by Kidman. He goes up for the Shooting Star, but Akio crotches him. Akio and Rey dumped to the floor. Nunzio comes in and DDTs Kidman off the top for the win!!!! Great match...but Nunzio as #1 contender?

I always laugh at the piped in crowd reactions on Velocity. A guy will hit a Russian leg sweep and you'll hear the "fans" go "OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!"

No kidding. I wasn't expecting that. Maybe they're about to sign Sonny Siaki.

Post #1700...go me. Ad break in the match.

Matthews: "The first superstart to gain a pinfall or a victory..."

Will Coach bring in a wrestler to feud with Tajiri? Or is this just a token comedy feud?

Rey vs. Nunzio vs. Akio vs. Kidman - winner is cruiserweight #1 contender.

I'm surprised they used an entire recap segment on Chavo/Noble instead of Booker turning on RVD. Booker vs. RVD was, you know...announced for Smackdown and all, and they need all the ratings help they can get.

There's officially only 4 Confidential left? I really hope their new show isn't just another recap show. Uggh.