Hunter's Torn Quad

Nobody is saying that they shouldn't have the angle in some form get shown on television. The key is to only show photos or clips of the angle on television, and get it across that if you want to see these angles in full, then you have to go to house shows. If WWE run a bunch of angles on the house shows that play a part in ongoing television angles, and regularly show clips and photos from these angles on television, then it would eventually get across the point that what happens at house shows does have an effect on what people see on television, and it might make people more likely to go to house shows. They don't have to be major angles, though once or twice a year it would be wise to run one, but they do have to be angles that the fans watching television get educated into believing have an impact on what they do see on television, so they might be more inclined to to go to house show in their area, and so get to see these angles in person. One Canadian house show during his reign didn't even break the 1000 mark. Which is exactly why WWE needs to make those fans feel like they got something special, or what they are paying to see matters. WWE fans who go to house shows are the most ardent, and when you make them feel so disinterested that they stop coming, then you're doing something really wrong.

It was Rock that got pinned.

Apparently, Austin, while liking Jericho personally, didn't think he was main event worthy. When they were building to their NWO 2002 match, Austin insisted on the angle where he laid out Jericho and poured bear on him be the go home angle, when it should have been Jericho laying out Austin as the last angle done to lead into their match. I know there was also talk that Austin called an audible during their NWO 2002 match and took most of the match when he felt the match wasn't getting the heat he felt it should have had.

The Nakamura v Tanahashi draw was to create the idea that they are equals, and, due to them being the IWGP tag team champions, that neither man would be seen as the 'weak link' of the team. I'm not a fan of any team having one member seen as a weak link, especially tag team champions.

Bulldog and Warrior were fired because Vince caught them using GHB to cheat the steroid testing that was going on. The steroid testing at that point was legit, and there were suspensions, but with Bulldog and Warrior not just getting caught on the juice but caught trying to cheat the test, Vince fired them.

I have no idea who you are.

I think you can say that about both men; Shawn could get his heat back with another promo like from Monday. And seeing as how Hogan is the one in the big WM 22 match they're going for, he has to win. I'm not keen on it either, but for business, Hogan has to go over.

Hogan has enough money, but he still demands a strong six-figure payoff to wrestle. Hogan v Austin is the plan, so Hogan isn't losing before WM 22. It might not be the best for business right now, and it probably isn't the best thing for long term business in regards to Raw, but for making the absolute most money from Austin v Hogan, Hogan can't lose.

Austin v Rock at WM XIX was a great way for Austin to go out, that is true. But Austin v Hogan will make an ungodly amount of money, and the lure of the Holy Grail of Wrestling matches will very likely prove too much for both men to resist, given that both men will likely get a healthy piece of a very big chunk of change.

They want Hogan v Austin at WM22. Hogan isn't losing before then. Austin can wrestle one last, safe match, and they don't come much safer than working against Hogan. We talked about this already in an earlier thread.

Shawn did it on his way to the commentary table at WM XIII. As he stepped onto the ring apron, he snuck a sideways look at the table, where Vince was, and pulled his jacket open to hide that he was given the clique symbol. Then, the next night on Nitro, as the nWo was walking to the ring, Kevin Nash stuck his face into the camera and said, "Right back at ya, HBK."

Check a few pages into the thread. The idea to fake the death of a top name was floated around, but then the Owen Hart deal happened, and the idea was scrapped.

angry much? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> He's still right.

While the promo was passionate and heated, it had a major flaw; it built more to a match that will never take place than to the PPV main event that is taking place on Sunday.

It should, but it won't. And I see someone else to add to the ignore list.

Gordy's stroke was down to taking drugs, and I don't believe it was the same type of stroke that Bret suffered. Not that it matters, because Bret isn't coming back to wrestle anyway.

Someone else try to get through.

But it isn't happening. At all. Ever. What does it take for people to accept that Bret is never wrestling again?

Tanahashi was banged up going into the G1, but he could still wrestle enough to get by.

People are letting emotion getting in the way of common sense, logic and business. I don't doubt it would cause a collective orgasm from almost every Bret Hart fan on the planet, and most wrestling fans in general, if Bret was to show up at Summerslam unadvertised. Bret was presented with a proposal for such an appearance before, at WM X8, with the hope that it being a surprise, and thus the WWF getting no buys from his name, would make Bret take the deal. He didn't. People have also began talking about Bret wrestling again. I don't think these people really know what damage a stroke does. Bret has said that if he could wrestle one match again it would be against Kurt Angle. Kurt proposed such a match last year. Guess what? Bret said no, and explained why, because of his stroke. Do people have to be hit with a brick before they comprehend things? Bret is never wrestling again. Period. Get over it people.

We're talking about a stroke here. Bret isn't wrestling again, period. Fantasy book all you want, but that's all it will ever be, a fantasy.

Bret can't wrestle again. That's not speculation or Bret saying so; it's his condition saying so.

Brian bridges the gap between smart fan and casual fan. He seems intelligent, and is smart enough to ask when he doesn't know something instead of trying bs his way through a debate. I get the feeling Brian spends his nights in front of a warm fire wearing the sweater his mom got him for christmas, drinking warm cocoa.

They did try to make house shows important again when they showed highlight reels of them on Raw a couple of years ago, and lucked into something when their first reel showed Shane McMahon breaking Test's foot off of a Van Terminator. The problem was it didn't turn around things right away, and so they stopped doing it after a couple of weeks, if that long.

There is no excuse for the biggest wrestling promotion in the world to be lazy, especially when it comes to the people paying to see house shows, who are the most ardent ones a promotion has. If Viscera was helping Trish, there should have been something done to explain it and/or make sense of it, especially when Trish was last seen getting stretchered out at the hands of Viscera.