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Either one or both men slipped up on the move or Holly sandbagged him. Given the odds, and Holly's rep, I know which I'd place my money on.

I don't really like Cena, either to watch him wrestle or hear him talk. His in-ring is fine, but he does nothing that grabs my attention. His interviews, while delivered very well, are why the mute button was invented because the material is just god awful. Instead of something intense or simplistic that still gets the message across, he gets material filled with lame jokes and bad attempts at comedy than can only come from third rate sitcom writer who likes fart gags and gay 'jokes'. If people like him, great, and there are obviously a lot of them, but for me, Cena does nothing at all.

Any guesses on what segments, if any, dragged things down?

Remember you're dealing with a guy who likes to play the tough man with people he thinks he can bully. By sandbagging midway through the move, when Lesnar doesn't know it's going to happen, it doesn't give Lesnar chance to compensate and it's more likely to make him look like he's sloppy. If Holly had sandbagged Lesnar at the beginning, Lesnar would have known something was going on and could have tried something else.

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If they're intent on Nitro someday being a star, they're going to try him out in that position in ECW, and that means lengthy title reign. If they're serious about Nitro, then the soonest he'll drop the belt is maybe Summerslam.

I still don't fathom that. He had Holly up for the powerbomb. If Holly sandbagged, Lesnar wouldn't have been able to get him up in that position in the first place. He had him up, then he sort of hesitated, and then he dropped him on his head. I'm not trying to blame Lesnar or anything for it, but I don't see the sandbagging thing. Watch the move again. Halfway through the move, when Lesnar is bringing Holly up and Holly is just about parallel to the mat. Holly stiffens up and goes deadweight.

Urban myth.

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It's back to being title vs. title.

If it was so bland, why did fans go ever more nuts each time Shawn and Cena teased hitting each other with their finishers? And why did the fans explode when Shawn finally did hit Cena with the superkick? They sure got excited over something 'bland'. Because it was tried and trued.... they couldnt do something that was fresh and new? Yeah it got a pop.... but c'mon..... it was really stale and predictable... You're complaining about the fact that something worked like it was supposed to and had the crowd going crazy?

If it was so bland, why did fans go ever more nuts each time Shawn and Cena teased hitting each other with their finishers? And why did the fans explode when Shawn finally did hit Cena with the superkick? They sure got excited over something 'bland'.

It would have helped had the people in charge not had a size bias, but as far as the fans were concerned, they weren't too small. In that, aspect, yes, their size worked against them, but as far as getting over with the fans, it didn't. Which kind of puts a hole in the belief their size would prevent them from getting over,

The problems with TNA have always been with the booking rather rather then the length of their TV shows. Unless that changes, then it doesn't matter how long Impact is. TNA were at their best when they focused on great matches that were backed up with simple and easy-to-understand storylines. They should stop trying to be funny with all the lame skits, because they rarely work and serve only to highlight how amateurish they are. TNA need to focus on what they can do well, the wrestling, and pull back on what they can't do well, the SE soap opera. It's not rocket science.

The botch at WM was more down to Lesnar being nervous/tired rather than him being a sloppy worker. The deal with Holly was all Holly's fault because he tried to sandbag Lesnar for some stupid reason. I think Lesnar gets more flack than he deserves, primarily because he did walk away from wrestling and wrestling fans are quick to turn on someone who does that. Lesnar certainly deserves to get knocked for not 'making someone' on the way out, but with the way some people rip into the guy, you'd think he'd committed mass murder. Lesnar was a pretty good big man worker. He wasn't the most charismatic of performers, but he definitely developed some decent charisma around 2003/4 mark. His offense was solid to great, and he could definitely play the part of the monster. I think Lesnar gets underrated more than he gets overrated, but he's far from this poor, sloppy worker than some make him out to be.

The booking team is Jarrett, Russo and Mantell. Cornette voices his opinion on his own segments and I believe helps with their production as well, but he has no real influence over booking as a whole.

The worst national anthem for a WM was at XI.

The 'Russo is just a consultant' deal wasn't true, and in fact was considered such a joke that Mantell started ribbing Russo by referring to him as 'Consultant'. The booking in TNA is, or was as of a month or so ago, handled by Jarrett, Russo and Mantell, with Jarrett making the final call on things but with all three having a say. Impact was being mostly written by Russo. I don't know how much of that has changed since Jill Jarrett died, because it's impossible to say how Jeff's attitude has changed. He might have taken a more hands-on approach and steered things more directly, or he might be content to just side with Russo or Mantell depending on how they argue their point.

Except the 'old geezers' based their belief on the fact the Eddie and company were 'too small', which had nothing to do with why those three, at least, didn't 'make it'. With Eddie, WWE were happy with his performance but he couldn't take handle the pressure at that time in his life. Jericho was never given a chance to 'make it'; he was only ever given the Unified title so he could lose it to HHH. Rey was mishandled from day one of his 'run at the top', and was always going to be, because of the size bias in WWE, regardless of how well he kept getting over with the fans. Yes, those three didn't 'make it', but in the case of Jericho and Rey, WWE were never going to allow them to because it either didn't fit their plans or because of size bias. Had Jericho and Rey actually been given the ball and not been handled the way they were, we might have found out for sure if they had had what it takes to be accepted on top by the fans.

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The Abyss storyline is mostly Mantell, yes. Where Mantell has one over on Russo is that when Mantell has booked on his own, he's actually turned business around; he took the IWA in Puerto Rico when it was on the outs and he was able to help it go toe-to-toe with the rival WWC promotion

And I thought Ricky Morton retiring and dying on the same day was weird... -TEW 2007