RavishingRickRudo

The WWE is building up Snitsky, right? Why couldn't they have had Snitsky end Billy Gunns career and, like, kill Albert... or something...?

I still can't get over the WWE saying "Raw will explore the challenges _____ face". I'm almost expecting them to say next week "On a very special episode of RAW, Eugene discovers the dangerous of drug addiction"

I hear they've been doing it at house shows, so I wouldn't be surprised to see it here.

Obviously certain things have to change since this character is on RAW. I think Bradshaw will eventually be turned face by the fans once he loses the title, the character itself is too damn entertaining and different-from-the-rest for them not to cheer him.

I'm just reposting this for future reference... I say have Hussien, or whatever this new Muslim character will be, just show up one day and start to wrestle. After his match, have some heels (preferably with a southen accent... Bradshaw...) come up and say "Git the hell outta here you Saudi bastard! We don't want your Palestinian ass here in the land of the free! Go back to I-rack before you fly another plane into our freedom loving buildings!", and then have a clean cut babyface show up (Charlie Haas?) and say "Hey man, he's just a wrestler like us trying to make a living. He's in America now, so he's free too." and have the Liberal Hippy Haas take Hussien by his side. Play this stuff up for a few weeks until a PPV with Hussein/Haas vs. Evil Hick Team. Then have Hussien turn on Haas and lay all the Americans out in the middle of the ring. Have him "terrorize" matches, where he runs out and obliterates everyone in the ring (wrestlers, refs, time keepers, announcers) to the point where GM Teddy Long questions whether or not he should even be having matches. Meanwhile, evil Hussien uses DIPLOMATIC IMMUNITY and the MUSLIM COMMUNITY to keep him from getting suspended. Eventually this leads to JBL turning face and telling Teddy that if he closes down Smackdown, then the terrorists win. So we have JBL stopping Hussien once and for all and turns him into a parking lot. Then they could have Hussien, post heel turn, enter the building freely while old ladies get checked out in line to see if they are carrying any dangerous weapons. And you could have all of his promos be cut in the same way OBL's videos were shot - in the mountains, pretty grainy video, with a rifle in his hand. He could also have an Al Jizeera Video crew with him documenting his stay in the WWE - which is why they're afraid to mistreat him, because it could cause an international incident. AAAAAAAND you could have him take prayer breaks during matches - specifically when he's losing - and the ref would have to allow it. There is so much potential here. I will be disappointed if they don't have the TV crew with him.

I'm conflicted. On paper, this is better than the normal 1 dimensional characters the WWE normally has on television. That's what I want. But I seriously doubt they'll be able to handle the political and social issues that accompany such characters, oh let's say, gracefully, naturally, and without deviating into stereotypes like they have normally done with EVERY SINGLE ETHNIC CHARACTER THEY HAVE EVER HAD. They simply have not shown the skill to make this work beyond getting cheap heat and playing to the worst in people (intolerance, bigotry, etc) rather than the best (acceptance, tolerance, cultural understanding, etc). So what does it say about the WWE's fans when they boo these characters?

I don't think anyone suggested that the WWE should sign Kobe and Shaq, and I don't think anyone called Randy Orton a great wrestler.

I know how to turn it around, and it hasn't been mentioned here once. *walks away and whistles.*

I like the idea of using a weight system, but could WWE pull it off? Afterall, it would have to make each weight division look competitive...and if they can't do that now with their titles, why would they be able to do it with weight divisions The reason they can't do that with the titles now is that the title scene doesn't have any structure. The weight system gives it an inherant structure. What makes someone a contender for the IC title and not the World Title? Or vice versa? Nothing. So you have guys challenge for both titles in the span of a month. So you have the IC title competing with the World Title and there's no way the IC title will win that fight. The Tag Division would be Openweight. And there still could be special openweight matches. But they should limit those. There is the problem - the WWE could lose focus and do a whole bunch of open weight matches and be in the same situation it is in today.

You are a man of honour, BR4L. I am going to write into PRIDE and tell them to show the damned opening ceremony.

There's a lot of "what ever happened to?"'s in Angel. It'd make for some good short stories or comics.

Herring and Rampage should go to the UFC. Dana White should be on the phone 24/7 trying to get those two guys, because they would add so much to his top two divisions (aka, two of the three divisions that have belts)

Cause it's pretty obvious that it doesn't belong here and it's only a matter of time before a mod comes and moves it, so might as well answer.

And I went 3 straight nights dreaming about Zombies. The third night was the weirdest because the Zombies were replaced by Asians.

It's what Shawn said to Bret inferring that he (hart) and Sunny slept together. There was a bit of a tiff after this comment, I believe.

"oooh...OOOOOOOOOOH!!!!!" - Curry and I watching the shot of Rampage falling into the ropes and blood gushing from his head to the mat. Silva can get KO'd as he has a pretty weak jaw (knocked down by Hendo, Sak, Jackson, Belfort) and Randy has some nice boxing and throws right where Silva is open. In that regard, Couture has a big opportunity. BUT, Silva has a tendancy to get up quickly after getting knocked down and overwhelm his opponents. The good thing with Couture is he dictates the pace and wouldn't let that happen, and as I mentioned in the other thread, dictating the pace is how you beat Silva. Jackson didn't do that. Jackson blocked and didn't really counter punch. He just waited it out. That's being submissive to Silvas attacks and that's giving Silva the time to grab your head and knee you to death. Couture has a big advantage here and it would make for a really awesome fight, cause with Silva, even if you have the advantage he'll never stop. And I second the "Where's the openings", I love the fighter introductions. Cock suckers.

I had the Death Boat break down on me twice (hence the name), luckily I was near my uncles for one time and was able to get it to his house (he worked for Chrysler), and another time was the middle of the night and I was able to flag down a passing tow truck. 80 bucks for the tow and he told me that if you ever needed a tow truck, call the police and report that you've been in a car accident and you'll have several trucks comin by to choose from and you'll be able to haggle your way down. Never tried that out cause it sounds retarded, but hey. LOST~!

I liked the fact that Hunt *trained* what he won with. He worked that uppercut in training and knew that Bobish would bull rush him (no pun) for the takedown. Smart strategy. Also, I liked Rampages initial counters for the knees; rather than moving backwards like he did in their first fight, he moved forwards. And the man has the best blocks in MMA. Unfortunately he didn't train in counter punching cause Silva leaves himself wide open down the middle.

Herring vs. Yokoi - Sick stuff from Herring. The ref was hilarious because you KNEW he was stopping that fight and then realized that maybe he shouldn't have and then bullshitted his way out of it. He really was writing Yokois death sentence there, though. ** Arona vs. Russian Dude - Pretty active ground fight, but repetitive. I watched Arona/Fedor yesterday and this was pretty much a mirror of it where Arona would have a dominant position and then do nothing with it. Gruh. ** Overeem vs. Kanehara - Knees kness knees. It's a shame Alistair throws pretty weak shots cause he was throwing everything at Kanehara here. The only thing Overeem proved here was his conditioning, because beating a human punching bag is not an accomplishment. I feel so sad for Kanehara. He makes me wanna say "It's ok lil fella, you can stop taking the beatings now". *** AE vs. JT - Like two bulls. Cept one was really jacked up and one was strong sad-like. ** Hunt vs. Bobish - FUCK YEAH. I loved this. Hunt making the comeback after getting mauled by Bobish. Awesome shit. Hunt KO'd him. Bobish lost his legs on that uppercut and it was over. Think of it as the 2004 version of Vovchancyn hitting Goodridge. Gassing may have factored in, but he was seriously KTFO. I *hate* the fact that I got screwed on Henderson/Nakamura and Barnett/Cro Cop. You all would be on suicide watch if it wasn't for the main event delivering, cause I wanted to see these two fights live up to its potential. Motherfuck. DUD. Silva/Rampage: Who can beat Silva? WHO? The guy is the most dominant man to ever compete in MMA. No doubt about it. Even when you think he's down the man comes back to wipe away any doubt. BTW, I LOVE THE MIDDLEWEIGHT DIVISION! Arona. Henderson. Overeem. They'd all get fucked by Silva, but they'd still have a chance. Rampage had a chance, but shit, Rampage also had blood gushing from his face while he was unconscious. Great story here, great ending. Great match. ****1/4

You can't see the humour in having the puppet with the horn just making random noises and the other puppets agreeing with him?

So, the point of the thread is to ask this question: Do you think that a big part of the reason why WWE is currently so underwelming is because of whom the champions are? I think what makes it underwhelming is because of who the challengers are. It's also underwhelming because the feuds are so cliched and predictable. We've seen this dance way too many times. They need to change the steps. If we could switch it up, would there even be a women's division? Would each show have a World Champion and Tag Team champions? How about the second tier titles? I remember when the IC division was one of my favorite things about wrestling. Nowadays it seems like if you have that title you're failure because you don't have the "real" belt. The women's belt is currently just a trinket. The tag team titles don't mean anything because no one wants them. Hell, even the top divisions are boring. Does it matter if someone loses a belt or not? That's why I suggest using a Weight System. Heavyweight, Middleweight, Light/Cruiserweight. Then there's a reason why each guy is challenging for each title - not because they "suck", but because that's their weight. Since the WWE is worked, they can work weight as well. Middleweights can move up to heavyweight, heavyweights can move down to middleweight. Natural storylines can be associated with it. Shelton Benjamin just won the Intercontinental Title at Taboo Tuesday...and it didn't even matter. You'd think it would've had at least SOME impact, but instead...now it just isn't carried by Jericho anymore. No one seems to hammer the point home that the belts matter. At least when Randy Orton was IC champion, he tried to make it seem like the belt mattered. At least he tried. What's funny about the Jericho thing is that JERICHO didn't even seem to care. He moved UP a spot on the roster after the loss, and is now involved with Evolution while Benjamin gets Jerichos sloppy seconds w/ Christian. There is no benefit to winning the titles, there is no damage when you lose it. So why would anyone care? When Randy lost the IC title, the next PPV he had the World Title. Edge, the guy who beat Randy for the title, was in the middle of the card while Randy was in the main event. A lot of times, I hear people talk about having wrestling tournaments. Usually it's when talking about a title. My question is, what's the point? How would that be beneficial? Tournaments provide fuel for storylines. There are so many ways you can start angles and provide character development through them. Tournaments happen in sports every single year - The Playoffs. These are the highest drawing games of each individual sport for a reason. Just so that you can actually see some wrestling? I think a tournament for a belt, initially could would, but it usually fails. Instead of having a tournament for a belt, ranking should determine the outcome. I was initially for bracketing, but under the current system it wouldn't work. It creates a pecking order and the WWE would never be able to sustain it. It would goof with the flow of the show where JR and King would be like "Ok! Time to look at the top 5!". The Round Robin is a good idea. I don't know where I'm going with this. I wanted to start a discussion on the current state of the WWE titles and how it relates to and reflects the product. Do the belts matter anymore or are they a lost tradition? Is the brand split to blame? They don't matter to me, they don't matter to the wrestlers. Nothing happens when someone wins it.

Allthough brand identity is important surely the overall cause of the organisation i.e raising money to save the environment overides that and if the WWE were to offer them a sum which could go a long way in advancing this cause would it be anything more than selfish and hypocritical for them to reject it if it was a reasonable sum. Whatever sum the WWE offers, in the long-run, selling that name to the WWE (and/or sharing it with the WWE) would cause more damage. The only way it would be hypocritical of them would be if the court case results in countless animals and habitats dying. In the end, if or when they win the case, that money will go into their everyday operations. Selfish? The WWF *let* the WWE use the name, how is that selfish? Vince, on the other hand, if in that position, would NEVER let it happen. Oh wait... he's been in that position... AND HE NEVER LET IT HAPPEN. No wait, sorry, my bad. He let the Rock use his name... and got producer credits for it. That selfless guy Vince. Unlike those selfish bastards at the WWF. God how I hate them so! Furthermore correct me if i'm wrong but isn't the fund technically known as the World Wide Fund for Nature? therefore the intiials are WWFN? Wasn't the WWE the WWFE? Here's an idea: Type in "WWF" into a search engine. Go to the WWF's website and see how many times they refer to themselves as the WWFN. "WWF" is all over their website. An correct me if I'm wrong but, didn't the WWF file their name before the WWE? Thus making it theirs??? Also Rudo just because you don't agree with my views that doesn't give you the right to call them retarded. Would you rather "silly", "misguided", "woefully ignorant"? Your views are wrong, it's not whether I agree with them or not. Your idea is impractical, as if that scenario would do ANYTHING other than make Vince look like an idiot. Personally, I think any fan who sides with the WWE here is a fucking dolt. People who say "panda fuckers" shouldn't be allowed to procreate. There is absolutely no reason to side with the WWE here other than dumb, blind, loyalty. And no matter how many times I give those lil things called "facts", there's still those who spout of nonsense that suggests the WWE isn't in the wrong here and that it's the WWF at fault here. I generally find your posts extremely humerous and they generally add to the discussion but the comment at the start of that was rather pointless. And your proposal was... senseless?? This particular issue (WWE vs. WWF) is a particular peeve of mine - the WWE broke the contract and now they are paying the consequences of it. Somehow, someway, people can't see that. The WWE doesn't deserve loyalty on this issue because they did the same thing *to their fans*. I just don't understand it.

Commentary by the puppets would have rocked.

I love it in the Itchy And Scratchy Movie eps. where Lisa goes "And the celebrity voices! Michael Jackson, Dustin Hoffman... they changed their names on the credits, but you knew it was them", that's the simpsons that I miss. The ones that didn't go "HEY!!!!! There's a CELEBRITY on here and he's doing something with HOMER!!!!!"

They could have at least had Kate in Drag as Tony Blair. I mean, seriously... Or had GWB as Leos character in Titanic and though the ship is sinking pretending like it's not and then Kerry could be the Billy Zane character and they could have done that whole thing. There had to be something from ESOTSM that could be spoofed.