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How do you define "taking all the spotlight for yourself"? Did Hogan push Warrior out of the ring or something? If you showed Meltzer a video of Hogan saving a baby from a burning building, the first thing he'd claim is that Hogan started the fire.

The WWE needs less production (in regards to camera's, video screens, entrances, graphics, etc.) In the late 90s, part of the WWEs appeal was their production, but now I think it is really holding them back because they over-produce, and more importantly -since they don't have a big company to compete with (and therefore look better than)- they are essentially competing, production wise, with bigger sporting events and rock concerts, which currently smoke the WWE. So either they should invest in bigger and better video screens and more sophisticated technology, or they scale down so they don't look like they are failing. And Kevin Dunn needs to go. I was an advocate of Dunn for a while, because he was a big reason for the WWEs success, but he's doing nothing but holding them back. He's not as big of a problem as Steph is, imo, but he's still a problem.

If I shoot at someone and miss, does it still mean I shot them? Plus, there have been several stories going around WM 6, put forth by Hogan himself, including him putting over Warrior at Mania because he was planning on retirement. With Hogan you can never tell, but it seems to me like he's bullshitting and trying to take credit for Warriors failure and falling in line with the WWE's history. Hogan didn't want to make his put over seem like the wrong move, so he changed up the story a bit. No doubt Hogan was trying to protect himself in defeat by handing Warrior the title rather than just hiding away like a loser as Meltzer would want, but that's different from trying to bury and sabotage Warrior. Hogan did so much to put Warrior over in that match I find it hard to believe that his one gesture of class was enough to bury him from the start. Nevermind Warrior became _more_ over because of his win and was made The Man because of it, oh no, it's That Evil Hogan doing the dastardly deed of looking sad and being a good loser and sportsman... what a bastard that guy is.

Who says him quietly leaving the ring is the only way to put over Warrior? Hey, let's forget all the shit Hogan did to put Warrior over in the match and let's just focus on him handing Warrior the belt and *gasp* looking dismayed over losing the title. But it's not like Meltzer would ever skew anything negatively against Hogan.

Have you actually SEEN the match? At the end of the night Warrior was The Man. That was clearly established. He was put over. Warrior closed the show, he won the match, he got the title. Hogan didn't club Warrior after the match, or have his foot under the rope, or claim he didn't lose, or have Warrior cheat to win. None of those things happened. It was a perfectly fine put over that has only been trumped up as sabotage well after the fact.

Cuz we've all slept with her.

I don't see how it effects TNA other than signing away former ECW talent that TNA uses, which is only a temp. effect anyways (once WWE starts to incorporate their developmental guys, there will be little need for previously established talent). The main thing, in regards to competition, is that ECW is on Tuesdays, TNA is on Thursdays. So there is no conflict there. People that watch TNA because "it's not the WWE" won't really watch ECW too much because, well, it's still the WWE. In regards to the other people who watch TNA for whatever reasons, those reasons will still be there when ECW starts to run. TUF 3 winding down has more of an effect on TNA than ECW does.

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How did Hogan bury him, though?

If you want to say Hogans post WM 6 feud with Earthquake overshadowned Warriors title match with Rude, fine, go right ahead. But Hogan didnt do anything wrong at WM 6. He put Warrior over. He had Warrior press him over his head and drop him. He had Warrior kick out of the big leg drop. He lost to Warrior clean with no shenanigans. He admitted defeat and gave Warrior the belt and said "Hes the man".

Dammit! I was so going to make fun of Pauls overuse of "Bodies.." in just about everything he does. "The kids are all about the limp bizkit these days". I like Paul E for the most part, but the dude has to come back to reality and realize he is a 40 year old jew who rocks a skullet, which means maybe his eye for cultural trends needs a monocle (which I hear is huge among the vampire-mr peanut crowd that has been taking over NYC for the past few years (and yes, instead of blood, they do drink melted Skippy (which is far more disgusting))).

Depends on the context. The Edge interview was kayfabed insofar as to put heat on Edge with him "shooting" on the fans, which is within the range of the "rated R superstar" character. I don't think him saying this on live television would fly, because the majority of the audience would be like "wtf does psychology have to do with rasslin?", but since this was an online quote directed at online fans (in particular hardcore ecw fans), where kayfabe is more openly broken, it is not an unusual quote to make, nor do I think it is one that hurts the illusion. Like I said, it's Edge trying to get heat on himself by insulting "smart fans", the comments were directed at those fans, so using the terminology those fans use is just a way of making it more real. In regards to Kayfabe in modern day wrestling, it should be held on to more. That's the wrestlers' control over the fans, and most wrestlers nowadays have little command over them because they act all goofy and shit on myspace and then expect people to take them seriously in the ring.

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Does he really need one? Isn't the past 5 years enough?

Yeah, bitching about other companies holding you down is so 1992-2001.

The day Tazz/Lawler sells a PPV buy is the day either of them looking strong matters.

Who said wrestlers shouldn't look sad? What Hogan did wasn't to get over feeling sad for losing, but to get sympathy and get the attention back to where he always wants it; on him. Oh, I see. What exactly is the right way to sell feeling sad? Is there one particular way, or are there many ways? Clearly Hogan didn't do it right, he was able to get across being sad, but he really should have gotten across feeling sad but in a way where people can't have sympathy for him. So maybe he could have been sad but then killed a kitten or something. Jesus Christ, got any more gems?

Finally, a promotion that has their ear to the motherfucking ground. The vampire market was RIGHT THERE and it was continually ignored for years. I can't tell you how many of the cool kids I see walk home from school with their capes and amulets who curse modern wrestling for not tapping into something that is so hot right now. And don't get me started on the furries, I can't see those hipsters faces but I can imagine they wear nothing but a constant frown because they are not properly being represented in professional wrestling.

Yeah, cause what Hogan really shoulda have done was tap danced out of there because wrestlers shouldn't look sad when they lose.

Too much is made out of the WM 6 ending. Watching it as a kid, it was what it was, a close finish with Hogan doing a classy thing and handing the belt to Warrior and admitting defeat and then letting Warrior have his day in the sun. Hogan protected himself, sure, but he didn't bury Warrior there by any means.

What was Dana supposed to say "I respect your decision and understand the mental and physical toll fighting takes on you?" I mean, there is no cursing at all in that. It's just not Sleazy D's way.

But he did drop the belt. He never said he was willing to take a backseat to people he thought were not fit for the spot.

I'm one of the last guys that would ever jump on the Warrior bandwagon but that is pretty fucking hypocritical. Hogan lost clean and handed the belt to Warrior, that was very classy and he did it with charisma. Not hypocritical at all. Hulk Rules.

The WWE vs. ECW show did nothing to sell me on ECW Redux, but it did sorta sell me on the PPV provided it has Tanaka/Ballz.

Summerslam 2005 Buyrate.