Jobber of the Week

Honestly? No, not unless they were obviously dogging it and not trying to play well at all. If they are busting ass, paying hard but just getting their asses handed to them, I would not, and do not, boo them. If you had one of the best teams ever in the sport, but your coach was making newbie mistakes left and right and bringing the game down because of it, would you complain, or would you just suddently drop all interest in the team and stop going to games? Exactly. Most people would prefer to just see a change.

The second time went much better. I dominated Condi through the whole election and got to move on to Ahhnold. Appearantly I "lost" last time because I got the electoral college without the popular vote. The funniest part of the last race was that every media report about Condolezza called her a "him." I thought it was just shoddy thinking until I tried again and the media got the gender right. An amusing event, however, is that I went up to New Hampshire and got stuck up there, as the icon for Edwards was completely taken away from the map. I could still move around Kerry, my Hollywood Friend, a couple Spin Doctors, a Smear Artist, and an Intimidator. I won the race by sitting around in New Hampshire and spending eight turns just collecting Endorsements from various groups to cement the victory. The Fixer makes me laugh. Condi didn't spend any capital whatsoever, but got gifts in the form of a Texas cowboy (definer?), and some guy who was trying to do me damage. Both mysteriously disappeared from the map after I hired some foreign agent who flew in from somewhere over the Pacific Ocean. She also had a little old Grandma who told people friendly stories about her somewhere on the East Coast, but I already had that state and I figured calling in the secret agents to remove a Granny who can't even travel to another state was a bit much.

He can't even run....

Exactly. I think you misinterpreted my first post. I wasn't suggesting we tax anyone's investments, I suggested a consumption tax. I feel we do. Aside from recent reality TV work when everyone figured out she has a nice body, have you ever looked at the news articles about Paris and her ilk to find out what they do for a living? They don't actually list anything about their occupation, because they don't DO anything. While they do have their part in the economy (you mentioned investments that are vital to the economy), there's no reason why you can't tax that kind of wealth more. And since normally people aren't typically buying yachts or a Rolls-Royce, it scales down properly. And because of the nature of such a tax, you won't have our current situation where one class of people are paying less taxes than they're supposed to because they know the loophole. As the Glorious Leader himself said, "you know how the rich is. They got accountants. That means you pay."

Care to explain that a little more for those of us who don't follow?

Eh, something weird happened. In campaign mode my Edwards managed to beat Condi on election night (and she spent more money than I did, too) but supposedly I'd be moved on to some bigger fish like Dick F.U. Cheney but nothing happened and I eventually went back to the main menu.. Uh?

Sorry, I don't feel like rewarding a bunch of heirs who don't work. I'm not saying they shouldn't invest, I'm saying that as they enhance their lives with their second plasma TV, they should get taxed appropriately for it. This means they either keep a larger sum of money and live a more modest life, or they pay more tax. And this way there's no loophole.

Who said that? I prefer a government open to all religious beliefs, including atheism, equally. You do realize that's different than an Atheist state? Right?

What's the difference if the President is in office or not?

The other thing was that it was done quick. As someone said, it could have been coming over several shows, but they did it so quickly that it caught us all by suprise, even if the plot development was pretty obvious. And the fact that the beatdown was fast and fierce made the Finisher Exhibition that's always included seem more interesting.

Don't say that. Is it really that great that he hit it out of the park when his average is as horrible as it's been? I mean, even a broken clock has gotta be right twice a day.

There should be a Godwin's Law for invoking 9/11 in a smear while discussing foreign policy.

It wasn't a retard angle, but he seemed a like a kind of dopey guy who had his heart in the right place, so people liked him. That's what I'm saying. There was a lot more compassion from the crowd in those days since the audience consisted of a lot of kids who were taught to be nice, respect people, and if you can't say anything nice then not to say anything at all. Today's wrestling was all about pissing on these concepts, but they've been making some kind of comeback since 2002.

Just because one hasn't happened doesn't mean it's impossible. However, I wasn't demanding "an athiest state", as atheism is itself a religion. I mean an official "all religions allowed, none prefered" state like what we strive to be. But if you insist on answer, since we're practically whittling ourselves down to Communist countries, I guess Tito's Yugoslavia had the best human rights record.

And since I just saw the post-match promo, I'll say this for more pleas for sympathy that never work: We have JR talking about how just how wrong it is that Lita is marrying Kane. Uh, presumably she agreed to marry the winner, which is why we had the match, and Kane won. He didn't even cheat to win, but won fair and square. So why are we supposed to feel sorry for Lita for having to live the consequences of her decision?

Okay, so Rhyno vs Grenier is on and I need something to talk about in the meantime. Plus the Toronto crowd thread got me thinking.... We're about one year out from the date WWE released Zach Gowan after a fairly unsucessful run a novelty attraction in the upper card. Gowan was played out as a guy who got a bad break in life but still wanted to play on the same field that the regular guys do. Almost everything Gowan was involved with revolved around his handicap and the issue of getting accepted by others. So now we have Eugene, who mysteriously got somewhat over on a combination of some decent chemistry with William Regal, and a whole ton of nostalgia imitating wrestlers of the past. He's currently been a novelty attraction in the upper card, arguably the top-booked character on the show, not involved in any real angles that don't immediately revolve around his "handicap" and acceptance. The problem I think is that someone at WWE (Vince?) seems to be stuck in the 80s mentality when the company was primarily marketing to children. Hacksaw Duggan was a weird guy who walked funny and didn't look too bright, but he was Hulk's friend and carried an American flag around so crowds cheered him on. Probably the most successful retard angle of all time goes to George Steele and his infatuation with Liz. Instead of completely focusing on Steele, viewers were shown what an ass Macho Man is, that we can presume he's pretty abusive, and at least the ugly unintelligent ape-man seems to show genuine compassion for her. Both gimmicks above are the center focus and get at least as much camera time as whom they're running against. (looks at TV, sees Gail vs Victoria, continues on) However, crowds have grown up. While children may feel sorry for these characters, as adults we see less fortunate people in real life all the time. Although most of us still are willing to help that develomentally disabled child across the street, we've grown that darker, morbid side that would like to pull out a bag of popcorn and watch that kid dodge traffic himself. We, hopefully, don't listen to this darker side in public, and instead use mediums like televised entertainment as an escapist route. A place where we can laugh at Rosie smashing the dog against the tree and chucking it a few houses away. Where we can heckle the rich and powerful only on the virtue of their being rich and powerful. Just because we cheer at Bubba putting a woman through a table doesn't mean we approve of Stone Cold beating a woman in real life, and just because we don't approve of the latter doesn't mean that the former isn't entertaining. This is why I believe sympathy heat doesn't work in wrestling. Nobody wants to feel sympathetic for someone with a handicap because this is our escapist zone where the handicapped aren't helped but exploited and taken advantage of. Which brings me to the people who couldn't understand the negative reaction to Eugene. They're an inevitability, and it's only a matter of time before they become a regular occurance. The question is, how quickly will booking react and move Dinsmore onto the next step in his WWE history before the crowds want to drive him out of town? If crowds aren't going to show sympathy to Gowan and his real-life problem, why in the hell are they going to pity a grown matured man pretending to be mentally handicapped? And that is what I mean when I talk about a dead-end gimmick (looks at TV, sees Kane vs Edge) Well, okay, guess this went just about the right amount of time.

Ah, makes sense. It's been used as such in the past, so that's what I thought was going on. That's not what I implied, but they're pretty far from perfect either.

Ah, good. I was hoping Thorpe would win. Phelps is getting way way WAY too much media attention and I wasn't looking forward to seeing him being America's Darling for the next six months, even though I don't hate him personally.

Sure. I've never heard of them before, aside from some brief quip regarding O'Reilly and the kid he nuked in the studio. The Dalai Llama hasn't spoken out against it, either. So shall we assume he supports violent protest? Just because Dean hasn't addressed it doesn't mean he approves of it, nor does it mean he's Ghandi either. Wait.. What? Either that or not feel the need to defend talk radio. Not all Republicans listen to those guys, just like how hardly any Democrats listen to the so-called "peace" groups.

Really? I got the impression that the New Yorkers were pretty riot-happy. Someone on the radio joked that if Selig really wanted to demolish Yankee Stadium, he'd just have to wait for the Giants or Jets to get to the Super Bowl, fuck up and lose, and then point the fans into the general direction of the stadium.

LAROUCHE SUPPORTERS ARE FRINGE. I don't care what you say to counter that because at least 80% of America would think you're wrong. Did I sleep too long and Howard Dean endorsed violence?

Then they aren't really interested in peace and I join you in deriding them. Well, I doubt he has the numbers to back that kind of claim up, and NY is a town that deals with sports riots from time to time (they have to with that many teams) so I'm sure they're prepared for any political one. False. This is the far-left, starting with the Michael Moores and going up to the anarchist-socialist types.

That's because the RNC draws out more than just anarchists, but their favorite neighbor groups, too. Republicans tend to trust corporations, drawing the ANTI-KKKAPITALISM THOSE CROOKED FATCAT THIEVES!~````1 people out of the woodowork. Their environmental policies and foreign aid policies also tend to draw out kooks, assuming the kooks aren't too busy sitting in a tree or playing human shield around a bunch of Palestinians.

I was kind of hoping nobody would do that. Which makes it all the more deperessing that it was you who did.

The people who go as far as to hurting people are the extremist anarchist types. They were at the DNC, too. Figures I couldn't get my "hey, these people aren't the majority" post out before Mike could get his "these people are representing the majority" post.