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The workers they brought in for the Invasion weren't believeable enough to take on the entire promotion. The reason the nWo worked in that regard was they teased dissention in the WCW ranks, while only focusing on the main eventers by taking them out with the entire stable. When did you ever see a 1-on-1 beatdown by the nWo? Anyway, it's a toss-up as to whether they could've successfully booked the Invasion that way. I mean, it's not just three wrestlers picking on two guys. It's nearly twenty workers, not including the ECW stable, there to represent the WCW. If you're going to do a gang warfare angle that's basically 'promotion versus promotion', you've to be ready to counter the mega-stars like Austin, Rocky, Angle, Taker and Helmsley. The WCW and ECW, with the paper-thin rosters they were given, each had a single guy that could stand toe-to-toe with them in crowd reaction, and that's Booker and Van Dam. The writers, at that stage, had no choice but to pair them together, which was the deathknell for the angle. I'm absolutely positive that a charge led by either Goldberg or the Outsiders and Hogan would've changed the minds of every fan out there. If the writers booked the nWo to AID the Invasion stable against the WWE, I think we know how it would've played out differently. EDIT: Van Dam and Dreamer could've joined the WCW ranks simply because they despised the WWF, or they could've slowly recruited their followers from the Titan side until it was believeable enough for ECW to stand on its own away from the two promotions.

Hence the reason I posted it. I don't know how this got by all of the officials and scorers.

I don't know if this is big news yet, but the timekeeper at the Pats/Steelers game put a extra 52 seconds on the game clock in the 4th quarter (a false start penalty at 13:59 by the Steelers, then the clock inexplicably goes backwards to 14:51).

All "WWF" mentions, as already done on previous DVD releases, are going to be edited out with dead air. As you know, they CAN say World Wrestling Federation.

Give me a counter roster for Austin, Rock, Undertaker, Angle, Kane, Big Show and Jericho.

Because it was a horrible match and everyone knew it. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Or a match in a WWE-dominated region with a tweener and midcard joke act that no one was willing to buy? Neither have these big, flashy moves that the fans will pop for. Nobody, at that time, knew their finishing manuevers or knew the build to them. No one cared for their taunts, either. No one exactly understood their roles in the match or in the angle, either. And we, the WWF fans, are supposed to care about them?

I'm pretty sure that Christian, Bradshaw and Orton are 86's.

So why they'd shit on Booker/Bagwell, then? The WWF and WCW were horribly bi-polar in how they worked a match. They needed stars to get the initial Invasion over, because it would take time for the WWE-bred fans to even be reconditioned to workers like Booker or Page. On that note, who did you all think was believeable enough to head the Invasion with Booker on a star-power scale? Waiting around for guys like Steiner, Hogan and Nash, even in a restricted role that kept them out of the ring, would've done wonders for the angle.

The former Dudleys would file a lawsuit against Titan for attempt to monopolize any potential gimmicks. If not, if they simply filed a suit to get their gimmicks back, this instance would help their case tremendously.

I just don't see how Michaels can build a convincing ironman match in that frame of time, given the Michaels requisite that he has to take a beating for 95% of the match. All we've seen in the past three years with the guy is a thirty minute match with a long build-up to the babyface comeback - how do you expect me to believe that Shawn will have enough time to sell two or three comebacks in that time? Maybe I'm in the minority, but I want to see guys with convincing offense to do the 30-minute ironman. I can buy Samoa Joe or Chris Benoit beating the tar out of someone and getting multiple falls in that timeframe, but with guys like Shawn and Angle who have an offense that take twenty-five minutes to get going, especially with the roles they've played in their two previous match-ups, it's going to fall short of everyone's expectations.

Because he had a good look, was strong, and was pretty athletic. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> He was a walking antique, though. The only time he ever stayed relatively healthy was the summer of 2003...and even then he got injured again. They could've at least done something with Skipper, or play off of the popularity of Mike Sanders.

True, but most people (me, for one) could see this in him last year. If you've seen the Sportscenter feature on him, you'd know that the guy has a season's checklist of all of the opposing teams' cornerbacks in his locker, checking them off after he burns the guy in that respective week. Hmm, did Jeremy Azumah contain Chad yesterday? Checkmark next to "No".

How was HE the only guy that wasn't cut out of the guys that went to HWA?

I'd assume that's what happened. The types of trademarks that the WWE covered with the Dudleys includes the performing and merchandising aspects, not a business or corporate entity.

Both ratings sucked, though. Judging by past ratings and sheer population, Cleveland would do a good rating against anyone if they reached the World Series.

Just thought I'd throw it out there, relevant or not. 1995 ABC / NBC, 19.5 rating, 33 share (Braves/Indians) 1996 FOX, 17.4 rating, 29 share (Yankees/Braves) 1997 NBC, 16.8 rating, 29 share (Marlins/Indians) 1998 FOX, 14.1 rating, 24 share (Yankees/Padres) 1999 NBC, 16.0 rating, 26 share (Yankees/Braves) 2000 FOX, 12.4 rating, 21 share (Yankees/Mets) 2001 FOX, 15.7 rating, 25 share (Diamondbacks/Yankees) 2002 FOX, 11.9 rating, 20 share (Angels/Giants) 2003 FOX, 13.9 rating, 25 share (Marlins/Yankees) 2004 FOX, 15.8 rating, 25 share (Red Sox/Cardinals)

The next three weeks... Arizona (Cena's Writer) v. San Francisco (Agent Bond34 1-2) v. Carolina (Fazzle 1-2) bye Cleveland (sfaJack) bye v. Chicago (Agent of Oblivion 2-1) v. Baltimore (Sandman9000 1-1) Detroit (bravesfan) v. Tampa Bay (Starvenger 1-2) v. Baltimore (Sandman9000 1-1) v. Carolina (Fazzle 1-2) Jacksonville (Always Pissed Off) v. Denver (Canadian Chris 1-2) v. Cincinnati (KNK 1-2) v. Pittsburgh (Kahran Ramsus 1-2) San Diego (Porter) v. New England (Nl5 2-1) v. Pittsburgh (Kahran Ramsus 1-2) v. Oakland (Banky 2-1) I'm thinking Cleveland, by virtue of everyone else losing this week (knock on wood).

Thats what happens when the Braves cant even sellout a playoff game in the first round. Plus they haven't got out of the first round in what 4 years? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Three; they all went to five games.

*cough* Five *cough*.

EDIT.

Nick selects... Jason Kidd.

If Idaho is ranked where they are, Hawai'i should be in the top 10. Seriously.

EDIT: Thought this was the Harris Poll thread.

PILE ON AKERS! Oh wait, bad idea, guys. EDIT: Well, that kick returner is retarded.

The Eagles need another ten yards to get into Akers' territory, because he ain't hitting anything outside of 25 yards. EDIT: Akers from 20 or so.