JHawk

I'd like to ask about the availability Race-Backlund 9/22/80 MSG match. I know the WWF taped it since it was at MSG, but that was the only match they didn't air on the MSG network that night for some reason. Is that the one where JJ Dillon rang the bell with two minutes left to try to induce the draw? Great match if so (the first truly great NWA match I ever saw)

The British Bulldogs vs. Greg Valentine/Brutus Beefcake (WrestleMania 2) Arn Anderson/Tully Blanchard vs. Barry Windham/Lex Luger (Clash of the Champions I) The Midnight Express vs. Ric Flair/Barry Windham (Clash of the Champions IV) The British Bulldogs vs. The Rougeau Brothers (SummerSlam 88) The Hart Foundation vs. The British Bulldogs (Boston Garden -- 11/1/1986) Owen Hart/Davey Boy Smith vs. Doug Furnas/Phil Lafon (IYH: Final Four 97) The Fantastics vs. The Midnight Express (Clash of the Champions I) The Fantastics vs. Ron Simmons/Eddie Gilbert (Clash of the Champions IV) Ricky Steamboat/Jay Youngblood vs. The Brisco Brothers (Starrcade 83) AJ Styles/Low-Ki vs. Christopher Daniels/Xavier (ROH 1/11/03)

Wow, I had never heard that. I'd say check your Hall of Fame DVD, but since they put the wrong JYD-Race match on it... But I believe the exchange is before the Race-JYD match starts.

Triple H replaced somebody who had been injured (Vader I think, although I'm not certain), and the kayfabe reason to put him back in the tourney was that he'd lost to Ahmed by DQ but had been told he could only lose by pinfall or submission

The KOTR was never mentioned by name but Race's win was was resulted in him being named 'King'. They said he won some tournament but didn't say where, when, or who he beat. Muraco (85), Race (86), Savage (87), Dibiase (88), Santana (89), and Bret (91) were the previous winners. The tourney was mentioned by name on the Jan. 1987 edition of SNME. Ventura: "He won every King of the Ring tournament we've ever had." Vince: "Yeah, but there were only two of them." Ventura: "How many do you need?" Of course, they ignored Muraco's 1985 win with that exchange, but the tourney was mentioned.

Am I gonna be the only one representing the MAC this season?

And what is with doing fucking awards presentations during the game? I flipped in to get a score, saw Roger Clemens getting some sort of award thingie, and never flipped back in. Didn't get a score until this morning either. Idiots. If I wanted to watch that shit, I'd watch the ESPYs. Which I won't.

Does anybody else find it fucked up that Velocity has as many matches as SmackDown when it's half as long? Did they give the cage match 45 minutes or something?

DeNiro Brando

Raw from JHawk's Beak (7/12/2004) The first of at least two late reports, as my job likes to wait until it's my turn to do Raw to make me close on Monday nights.

Piper said in his RF shoot interview (which I bought before RF was officially outed as a scumbag) that he was supposed to do a program with Raven before management vetoed it. Apparently Raven thought it was Piper who changed his mind. Who the hell really knows with WCW though?

I agree that a lot of current fans wouldn't care enough to buy it, simply because they have no idea who Bruno Sammartino is. However, I know a lot of current fans who bought Bloodbath because the Bruno-Zbyszko match was listed on it and were pissed that they clipped it down to about 30 seconds, so we could all be surprised.

But remember at the time that kayfabe was still fully in effect, so a lot of fans were unaware as to how old some of these guys actually were. Plus these were supposed to be the blowoffs to all these feuds that had been done around the horn. Most of the interpromotional matches and the World Class stuff was real good, and that was the stuff i was looking forward to anyway. Also bear in mind that I was ten years old, so i thought that was a kickass lineup.

I think my favorite is "black manager". You can't guess who that is?

I had the indignity of sitting through a wave that caught on as Oakland was batting in the top of the 6th inning during last night's As-Indians game. I find it more than coincidental that the Indians immediately gave up seven runs. The wave is cursed.

Not sure the exact reasons why they did it (I'm sure Cornette mentioned it in his 8-hour shoot interview that I haven't heard in a while), but it wasn't supposed to go any further than that. Basically, WCW had shown footage of The Rock 'n' Roll Express defeating The Heavenly Bodies for the SMW Tag Team Title and advertising that the champs would be at Superbrawl. By the time they showed the footage, the Bodies had already regained the titles, so they came onto WCW Saturday Night and yelled at Watts for showing the footage, which led to an impromptu match with the R'n'R. The Bodies soon replaced the Wrecking Crew at SuperBrawl. The problem is that Cornette's tirade against Watts was heavily edited since it badmouthed the way WCW was being run...even though that was the entire point of the segment. Watts actually resigned about three weeks before the PPV.

Except the nWo making fun of the Horsemen wasn't funny.

Wasn't the sit-in in response to Vince calling Tyson the toughest man in the world ... or whatever it was ... and Austin took offense to it? So that would have been pre WrestleMania. I'm almost sure it was pre-WrestleMania, but I can't remember what the sit-in was for for the life of me.

There was that one time (March 1998 IIRC) where the taped Raw went long, so they showed the Headbangers-Rock 'n' Roll Express NWA World Tag Team Title match on the following week's Superstars. One of the Bangers won by DQ and as a result got five minutes with Jim Cornette...but because he'd been KOd, Cornette dropped an elbow and got a quick victory. That might have been April and Headbangers vs. Midnight Express now that I think of it, because the Raw in question involved Steve Austin doing a sit-in that lasted two segments.

The problem is the AWA wanted a neutral site to hold the show. You couldn't hold it in Memphis or Minneapolis, as Lawler's win would have been seen like favoritism to everybody else. Not that it wasn't seen that way after the finish anyway. You couldn't hold it in Texas because the Von Erichs were still considered gods in Dallas at that point, and the finish could have conceivably led to a riot. The problem is those were the only areas that they could have truly drawn a great gate, as Chicago and other towns didn't see AWA or World Class promote their areas at all at the time. Does anybody know what the PPV clearance was for that show? As heavily hyped as that show was and as awesome as it looked on paper going in, that should have had an absolutely incredible buyrate. Were there PPV-ready cable systems that decided not to carry it for any reason?

You're only truly being pushed if a McMahon (or if the McMahons are on vacation, an on-air GM) is involved in your feud.

never been in an efed? No problem, because we'll accept you without ever seeing you cut a promo or work a match.

If you get a cruiserweight character over, you must job the title off to either a woman nobody's seen in months or a senior citizen. *the "We thought WCW got something right" clause

Efed newcomers have to take a green OVW callup.

Most don't, although there are a few. The issue is that some e-feds are using the pictures and trademarks, but what's next? Suing an e-fed because someone mentions Steve Austin in a promo?