JHawk

Does anyone know where this thread is? Actually, I noticed that thread on the Kayfabe Memories board, so I got myself confused there. So feel free to discuss the WWF ones too.

ACTUALLY, not 100% correct. The Sheepherders were supposed to meet the Fantastics for the U.S Tag Titles at the CLASH --- not Starrcade. They left and WCW (I don't even remember the reasoning they gave) stuck the team they beat in the semis (Simmons & Gilbert) in the finals to job to the Fantastics. True. But also remember the Starrcade match between the two had been announced in between both teams getting their spots in the finals and the insertion of Gilbert and Simmons in that spot. So it's probably safe to assume that this would have been a title match as well.

I'm still closing the voting Sunday evening barring unforseen circumstances, even though we're starting a day late. Eddy Guerrero American Dragon The winner is permanently retired from future Mat Madness tournaments.

During an Outback Jack match: Heenan: "Old Outhouse Jack himself." Monsoon: "Outback Jack." Heenan: "What's Jack short for?" Monsoon: "What do you mean, 'What's Jack short for'?" Heenan: "Jack's short for John, right?" Monsoon: "Yes." Heenan: "I rest my case."

I was going to start a separate thread for discussion, but since it's already started in here, we might as well save the bandwidth. The winner of the final round by a final tally of 22-10 is Eddy Guerrero. Discuss.

1928 I want that dime, motherfucker.

IIRC, JR's contract ran out in February 1994, which just happened to coincide with JR's first bout of Bell's Palsy. He was brought back when Vince McMahon's steroid trial was getting underway and disappeared as soon as Vince came back, so I'd assume that was the second firing (that would have been July 1994). It was originally scheduled to be Goldust-Razor Ramon, but Scott Hall was suspended for six weeks about six weeks prior to the sho (I think he'd failed a drug test). The WWF basically did a lot of careful editing to build to the fact that Goldust was making advances to Piper, and interim president Piper finally got fed up and made the match for Mania. Didn't Vince Russo just kind of bring him back one night? I know he was back by the end of October but can't remember the specifics.

Did anybody else think Dames was dead? He could have been the new Paul McCartney (or Paul Orndorff for that matter).

Which reminds me of the Mama's Family sketch where Conway completely ad-libbed a story about siamese elephants joined at the trunk. He's already got Harvey Korman trying in vain to keep from laughing, and then Vicki Lawrence comes back with "Is that little asshole through yet?" The entire cast lost it, including Conway.

Here's a thought: How about having a World Title Match that didn't end after either outside interference or some other screwy finish? I liked tonight's show though. I was pleasantly surprised by Red vs. Dutt, the X Cup preview was one hell of a spotfest, and I was into Raven-Styles up until the ref bump. Next week's lineup is making me cringe though. Douglas vs. Shane with straps and paddles?

Nobody's mentioned anything from Yogi Berra? "It ain't over 'til it's over." "Yogi, what time is it?" "You mean right now?" "90% of this game is half mental." (I might have that backwards, but the point's made either way.)

Depends on how much they're paying for this spot. I usually work during the time slot, so all I can say is "Thank God for VCRs."

You learn something new every day, I guess. At least the St. Louis crowd got something better than Hogan-Gang to make the show worth their money.

That and the fact that Kane hasn't even mentioned the title since prior to Armageddon.

What would piss you guys off more? Only having the three minute "main event" as an extra for attending, or getting nothing extra at all?

Is that the infamous nWo Monday Nitro episode? Basically, the nWo tore down the Nitro set and replaced it with its own set, then put on probably the worst 90+ minutes of programming they'd ever done up to that point (although not quite as bad as 1999 levels). The idea was to see how well the nWo version of Nitro would do. It was so bad that Raw actually won the second head-to-head hour that night, leading to them changing the booking of Starrcade so that Larry Zbyszko had to go over Eric Bischoff. If that's not the episode in question, my apologies.

Nobody's getting banned just for insulting Graham. Although you might end up going to hell if you disrespect his website.

Now now, that was also the first time Chavo Jr. actually got a shot in on Uncle Eddy during the "you'll do as I say" angle. It was still probably the worst wrestling show I've ever been to in in my entire life, and I never went to another WCW show again after that one. The ONLY extra thing we got was Kidman working the mic on behalf of the Flock. Yes, KIDMAN. No good matches, half the people listed in the program not even being in the building (including Goldberg, who was getting his name chanted during every single commercial break), and half the guys people paid to see that were nice enough to grace us with their presence were limited to doing mic work. I'm still waiting for my refund for that show.

Jose Canseco allowing a home run off his head. Who was that one football player that ran the wrong way on a fumble recovery and got credit for something like -64 yards? This was decades ago, but I remember reading about that.

There was an SNL in the 70s where Candice Bergen was hosting and was doing a commercial skit with Gilda Radner and accidentally called Radner "Fern"...which was the name of Bergen's character. And Radner's next line was "We can't all be smart like Fern here", which caused Bergen to lose it.

Raw from JHawk's Beak (5/3/2004) Michaels vs. Benoit! The six man opener! Gail Kim does the worst sell job of a kick to the gut ever.

Sorry I'm late with the results, but I wound up being out too late to post these. The final results for the round: Eddy Guerrero 23 AJ Styles 8 American Dragon 16 Chris Jericho 15 The voting for the finals starts within half an hour.

Elite Eight results are in the corresponding thread. Voting for this round last until next Sunday, May 2. 1 Eddy Guerrero 1 AJ Styles 4 American Dragon 1 Chris Jericho

No. In real life, Heenan had seen Hogan arriving in a limo, and he wasn't scheduled to be there. Anyway, I have another one. Nitro used the Mexican minis for one shot, and while Heenan was told keep himself toned down, he got one great line in on Mascarita Sagrada (IIRC): "When they told him he was going to be here, he said 'I'm so excited, I feel like I'm four feet tall'."

Not that I'm aware of. The Kerry Von Erich win counts. Flair has a lot in Puerto Rico and countries like that which don't apparently count, including a loss to Carlos Colon (which might have actually been a double switch, but some dispute the rematch ever actually taking place).