Buffy The Vampire Slayer: Season 7

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

As I told mole over the pm thing...

 

I think the best way to aproach this is for everyone to do their own thing. I like the idea of no real set guidelines because I'd like to see true Buffy fans with a blank canvas to work with...to see what comes out. We'll end up with seven different, very real perspectives on the seasons...and I think it will make the whole thing more authentic and fun than an ordinary retrospective.

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

bump

[Guest TPS1000]

Here's how I was thinking of handling it:

 

-I'd start off saying how things are at the beginning of the season

-Then list the regular cast for the season

-Then new characters of the season (Adam, Maggie Walsh)

-Then I'd run through and do a short run down of each episode and give them a grade.

-Then review the season based on character development, and the main plot

 

Does that sound right or am I heading in the wrong direction, here?

[Guest Mole]

Sounds good to me.

[Guest TPS1000]

And now I see the post by bps...

Thanks, Mole.

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

Alright.

 

Despite not posting here at all...or anywhere for that matter...

 

TPS1000 is hereby commmisioned to do Buffy season 4.

 

I feel...trusting today.

 

1.

2. DawnBTVS

3. mole

4. TPS1000

5. Ravishing Rick Rudo

6. LaParkaYourCar

7. bps21

[Guest Mole]

I was thinking the same thing bps, um, who is he?

[Guest TPS1000]

Well...I have been lurking around here for a while. (I originally signed up when this board first opened)

I saw the movie Buffy, when it first came out. I absolutely hated it. When I heard they were making a TV show out of it, I wondered what the hell they were thinking. Suffice it to say I didn't watch it. Then I was flipping channels when I saw Buffy and Willow burning at the stake. From then on, I watched Buffy. It has since become my favorite show of all time, but I never got around to posting here until now. I figured this was as good an opportunity as any.

[Guest Mole]

That is true, you became a member way before me.

 

I must say that Buffy and Faith should dance more often, it is phat.

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

I just noticed mole's custom title.

 

That's funny.

[Guest TPS1000]

"Bad Girls" is ok, but "Consequences" is awesome.

FX is strange though, if I didn't know every episode I would be confused as to what is going on, since they jump around so damn much.

[Guest Sakura]

I like Riley....

[Guest Edwin MacPhisto]

Dagnabbit. Go to work for a day, you miss out on all the fun.

 

I'd do season 1 if I'd seen more than half the episodes. Maybe I'll go buy the DVD set tomorrow, since I've been meaning to do it for all time.

[Guest RavishingRickRudo]

Oh um, if anyone wants to do a particular eps. in Season 5, or say something about it... feel free to pm me with it, or something... Yeah, so I'll probably start next week as Season 5 finishes on SPACE around then (Yest. eps. had Glory finding out Dawn is the key... some really great shit in that eps. esp. with Tara.)

[Guest DawnBTVS]

Lucky you RRR...Fool for Love ruled as did Family(I like Tara a lot...). You also got The Body and The Gift and Buffy vs Dracula(Xander did great with the quips)

[Guest Lil Naitch]

and Buffy vs Dracula(Xander did great with the quips)

Xander was the ONLY good thing about that episode.

[Guest RavishingRickRudo]

While I didn't like the whole Dracula deal, I thought the rest of the eps. along with what it established was really good.

 

Season 5 was Tara's coming out season IMO. Really good stuff done by Ms. Benson.

[Guest Mole]

Lucky you RRR...Fool for Love ruled as did Family(I like Tara a lot...). You also got The Body and The Gift and Buffy vs Dracula(Xander did great with the quips)

"Fool for Love" was just amazing.

[Guest Cavi]

Agreed. That episode just freakin' rules.

 

Spike: "I could have danced all night with that one."

 

Buffy: "You think we're dancing?"

 

Spike: "That's all we've ever done."

[Guest Youth N Asia]

I didn't mind Drac...I'm glad they made him out as a wimp instead of a super vamp.

[Guest RavishingRickRudo]

But it was freaking DRACULA. C'mon! That shit is lame. I mean, they did the best they could have done with it but that still doesn't stop the fact that they used Dracula! What's next, Frankenstein?

[Guest Youth N Asia]

ANGEL RUMOR

Spoiler (Highlight to Read):

I heard that they're bringing in Harmony for season 5 of Angel, as a regular.   I liked her in small doses, but I would not like her in every friggin ep

[Guest RavishingRickRudo]

NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

[Guest Mole]

Spoiler (Highlight to Read):

Is she going to be bad? Is she going to have a soul?

 

Where'd you hear that Youth?

 

And I didn't like Dracula, the powers he had were dumb, getting slayed twice, and he looked like a fool.

[Guest Youth N Asia]

I heard it on the DVDtalk forums...they sounded pretty sure of themselves. I'll check back later for their sources.

[Guest DawnBTVS]

I liked Buffy vs Dracula...yeah, I admit it. Reasons follow...as well as counter arguments to Dracula being treated horribly

 

-Dracula was never meant to be taken as a serious foe...plain and simple he didn't have the qualities to be THE big bad for the season(Thankfully, we ended up getting Glory instead).

 

-As for the way they handled him, come on...she's fought the KING Vampire in the Master..so what the fuck could Dracula accomplish to make him better then the Master?

 

-The Xander bits were great, plain and simple.

 

-Set up the possible split between Buffy and Riley(Riley getting jealous/angry over the bite).

 

-All Dracula had going for him was the thrall. Once Buffy broke out of it, Dracula really didn't have much else to fall back on aside from turning into a bat.

[Guest Mole]

Oh okay.

 

This is from TVGuide, an interview with Joss about Cordy on Angel.

 

Now that Angelus and Co. have assumed control of Wolfram & Hart on Angel, we suggest they use their new seat of power to solve the show's biggest mystery: What the heck happened to Charisma Carpenter and her alter ego Cordelia? Carpenter — a former Buffy cast member who, like David Boreanaz, has been with the show since its inception — went off to have a baby last season and hasn't been heard from since. (Cordy remains in a coma on the show.) Making matters more murky, a new Angel cast list makes no mention of the actress. The WB and 20th Century Fox have been cagey about the omission, and numerous attempts to make contact with Carpenter's agent have proven unsuccessful. So, what's a journalist to do? Go straight to the big boss himself, Joss Whedon.

 

 

TV Guide Online: Why was Charisma's name removed from next season's cast list?

Joss Whedon: Mainly because we felt like we had taken that story — just like Buffy for seven years — about as far as it could go. The Angel/Cordelia [love story] had gone pretty much as far as we wanted to take it. Their romance was definitely not a popular move on our part, and I think with most fans. It just seemed like it was time because we were revamping the show, and then paring it down... it just seemed like a good time for certain people to move on. Not completely, obviously. I'm hoping that we'll get Charisma to do some episodes as Cordelia sometime during the year. She's a new mother, so, like Sarah [Michelle Gellar], I'm waiting to hear what her schedule is like. But it just seemed creatively like... I once said that I finally got to tell the story of Buffy that I tried to tell in the movie, and I did it with Cordelia. Which was the story of someone who was completely ditzy and self-involved becoming kind of heroic. But the way the series was different from the movie was that I didn't know where you go from there. So, I felt like we spent seven years playing that very arc, and it had played. Like Buffy itself, it's time to look at something new.

 

TVGO: Isn't that a disservice to fans who invested all those years in the character and her redemption? It seems an odd thing to do to the show's leading lady.

Whedon: That's a fluctuating concept, the leading lady thing. And it is a little odd. Some choices are ultimately kind of controversial about who stays and who goes and who we focus on. But obviously, we had to have her out of a bunch of episodes toward the end of the year because she was having a baby... so what we had [leading] up to it wasn't a dynamic I wanted to play out that much. The fact is, this is not the end — unless Charisma herself says, "You know what? I don't feel like doing any recurring episodes." But when you have an increasingly large ensemble week-by-week, and you come in in your [fifth] year kind of having to revamp the show and trim the budget and also think creatively, "How am I going to service all of these people?," sometimes the people who have been around the longest, you've done the most with them.

 

TVGO: Some are speculating that she was a casualty of James Marsters's cross over as Spike next season. Like, there wasn't enough money in the budget to pay for them both, so she got the boot.

Whedon: That's a hell of a thing to lay on James. It was a creative decision that we made before Spike came over to the show, and like I said, I don't intend to leave Cordelia in a coma for the rest of the Buffyverse. But the creative decision to have the character step down happened long before negotiations with James [started]. It should not be laid at his feet.

 

TVGO: Were things left on good terms with Charisma?

Whedon: Yeah, but that's also stuff between us and not stuff that I would talk about in an interview.

[Guest Cavi]

I was waiting for TVGuide to post that up, since they said they were going to have it up on Tuesday.

 

The best part of the Drac ep:

 

Spike: "Dracula? Poncy bugger owes me eleven pounds, for one thing."

[Guest Mole]

Haha, I don't remember, but do Dracula and Spike talk with eachother?

[Guest RavishingRickRudo]

http://gloryisagod.com/psychetranscriptsad...obeziphtml.html

 

For scripts of season 5 (along with all the others). Shit, I find myself reading them from time to time, really fucking funny, brilliant, stuff.