AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted August 8, 2003 Is not seeing a turn coming a good thing? Eddy's "turn" *chuckle* surprised me, but generally a turn should be built up to make sense and not be too much of a surprise. For example, the Russo swerve turns were surprising until they got to be so often when some one turned you were thinking "Wow, I'm surprised--I expected him to turn last week!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JJMc 0 Report post Posted August 8, 2003 Gail Kim turning on Trish...but that's only because I was away from the internet for a few weeks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Only The Strong Survive 0 Report post Posted August 8, 2003 I agree with the others in here about the Gail Kim turn... and the Triple H turn on Shawn after "reforming" DX as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Star Ocean 3 0 Report post Posted August 8, 2003 Rosey's face turn Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LaParkaYourCar 0 Report post Posted August 8, 2003 Gail Kim turning on Trish...but that's only because I was away from the internet for a few weeks. Even if you weren't it would have surprised you because there was no talk on the net about her turning at all. Atleast none that I saw. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shlidgn90 0 Report post Posted August 8, 2003 gail kim's turn was blatantly obvious. she lost two matches due to trish stratus's interferrence. and then when trish was being helped up. gail kim blew it herself by cocking her fist at trish before she helped her up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JJMc 0 Report post Posted August 8, 2003 Gail Kim turning on Trish...but that's only because I was away from the internet for a few weeks. Even if you weren't it would have surprised you because there was no talk on the net about her turning at all. Atleast none that I saw. See the second post. Christ.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLAGIARISM! 0 Report post Posted August 8, 2003 The Radicalz turning on Foley was tremendous. Noble's face turn was kinda out of nowhere, I'd rather he were heel personally but I suppose he (gasp) wasn't going anywhere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted August 8, 2003 Of course, Hogan's infamous heel turn in 96. The Austin / Hart WM switch. The 2nd episode of SD when it was the Rock Vs. HHH for the WWE Championship. HBK was the special guest referee. Rocky had the match won so he went for the People's Elbow, and as he was about to close in for the win, HBK SWEET CHIN MUSICED the Rock and cost him the match. I didn't see that coming. Austin's heel turn at WM 17, but you knew he was going to win the match somehow. In 2001 we were cheering Angle, and booing Austin because they were the face and heel respectively...then the night after Survivor Series all of a sudder Austin goes face and Angle heel? It made no sense, then Vince the guy we've been cheering to win goes heel after he was already a heel before the Invasion started? And Brock becoming a babyface. I fucking hated it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Youth N Asia 0 Report post Posted August 9, 2003 I didn't see the Kim turn coming cause it was so pointless Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Fook Report post Posted August 9, 2003 ^^Ditto^^ The ECW reformation was really the last turn I cared about that caught me by surprise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ray Report post Posted August 9, 2003 Undertaker.....JR.....Vince's ass Fooled the hell out of me. Never saw it coming. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Stunt Granny Report post Posted August 9, 2003 Foley coming back as Dude Love and attacking Austin on the Raw where Vince challenged to a match for the first time. Damn, I was on the edge of my seat for that one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hogan Made Wrestling 0 Report post Posted August 9, 2003 Chyna turning on HHH and joining the Corporation to screw HHH over in the I Quit match with the Rock. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fökai 0 Report post Posted August 9, 2003 The last time I was truly shocked though was HHH turning on Shawn on RAW after reforming DX. Bingo. I assumed that HBK would never step into the ring again at that time. Before that, though, it was definitely the Radicalz turning against Mick Foley. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted August 9, 2003 Gail Kim turning on Trish...but that's only because I was away from the internet for a few weeks. I would agree, but she fucked up by telegraphing it 30 seconds before actually decking Trish, so that doesn't count. Even the densest mark probably picked up on it before the clothesline the way she helped Trish up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CaseyJones Report post Posted August 9, 2003 Shit, I forgot about the ECW reformation. The whole Alliance thing that happened afterwords must have numbed out that part of my memory, because it was so fucking shitty. So I take back my previous comment. The last time I was truly shocked by a turn was the ECW reformation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest gregb7677 Report post Posted August 10, 2003 yeah I gotta chime In for the ECW formation as well. it was just the way the lined up and then literally TURNED that was cool. the rest was a mess that I'd just like to figet ever happened. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ManKinnd Report post Posted August 10, 2003 Before I was on the net, Armageddon 99 with Steph turning shocked the hell out of me. I was a sad mark back then, so it might not count, but meh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alfdogg 0 Report post Posted August 10, 2003 Booker's face turn... From a mark's standpoint, I wasn't so much surprised *that* it happened, I was surprised *how* it happened, because I surely thought it would happen with Booker beating the everloving shit out of X-Pac. But from a smark's standpoint, I could definitely expect it happening the way it did with the Clique being involved. Other than that though, it would probably have to be Austin at WMX7. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Korgath Report post Posted August 11, 2003 An Austin turn isn't as unexpected as an Austin/McMahon alliance. That was the ultimate unexpected shit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LooseCannon25 0 Report post Posted August 11, 2003 I'm gonna have to go with Rhyno's heel turn...i knew there was some talk about it, but i thought they axed the turn and was pretty damn shocked when he gored Benoit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adam 0 Report post Posted August 11, 2003 Vinces turn at WM 16 shocked the living shit out of me. It was the first PPV that I watched at home and I was dumbfounded. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conspiracy_Victim 0 Report post Posted August 11, 2003 Austin at X-7 shocked me, but not in a "Holy Shit!" sorta way. More like a "You've GOT to be kidding me!". They had been leading up to the match with Austin saying he'd do "anything" to get the title back, so I kinda thought it might happen. I just didn't think they'd be insane enough to do it in Houston of all places. There was no way they could've pulled that heel turn off in Houston unless Satan himself came out of the fiery depths of Hell and helped Austin pin Rock. I'd have to go with both the Radicalz and ECW. Also, even though it was a debut, not a turn, Spike Dudley running out of the back got a "What the hell?" out of me, given Vince's fetish for monsters. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted August 11, 2003 HHH's first heel turn at WM XV suprised me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adam 0 Report post Posted August 11, 2003 I loved RAW is ECW, even if it was completely screwed up half an hour later. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zack Malibu 0 Report post Posted August 11, 2003 I'm going to go old school here. The British Bulldog turn back in '95 on Diesel during a tag match on RAW shocked the living hell out of me. At the time I was getting the Observer, etc. so I was smartened up to most things. Still, I remember coming home, watching the tape, and just sitting their in awe that Davey Boy Smith of all people had turned heel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisMWaters 0 Report post Posted August 11, 2003 I'm going to go old school here. The British Bulldog turn back in '95 on Diesel during a tag match on RAW shocked the living hell out of me. At the time I was getting the Observer, etc. so I was smartened up to most things. Still, I remember coming home, watching the tape, and just sitting their in awe that Davey Boy Smith of all people had turned heel. That was a good turn, yes. What was funny about it though was that Superstars, Bulldog, with his new haircut, gave an interview...and they promoted Luger having one in reply a few weeks later. ...of course, the Nitro before that Superstars, Luger appeared. Thus no reply from Flexy Lexy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted August 11, 2003 I'm going to go old school here. The British Bulldog turn back in '95 on Diesel during a tag match on RAW shocked the living hell out of me. At the time I was getting the Observer, etc. so I was smartened up to most things. Still, I remember coming home, watching the tape, and just sitting their in awe that Davey Boy Smith of all people had turned heel. Imagine being Davey's #1 fan and finding out that he was a bad guy. Talk about shocking... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Youth N Asia 0 Report post Posted August 12, 2003 Davey kicked ass after he cut his hair and went with Cornette. I liked him a lot more after that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites