Nighthawk 0 Report post Posted August 18, 2003 I've yet to find another Pissing Razors fan, but they have some of the greatest metal riffs I've ever heard. Unfortunately, their best is probably behind them. They're on their third lead singer now. I dig Pissing Razors, but I'm with you about them having peaked. They've got cool album covers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MissMattitude Report post Posted August 18, 2003 The Kinks are definitly better than most of the british bands, and are equal to the Beatles, and Stones... but to say they were better than the Who is outlandish. I think The Kinks are on about the same level as The Who but I don't like The Beatles at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Internet Warfare 0 Report post Posted August 18, 2003 Preal Jam was always in the shadow of Nirvana Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest stardust Report post Posted August 18, 2003 I totally agree with the two people who said Maroon 5 and The Fags, and I'm gonna throw Blue October onto that list as well. Also, The Nixons (even though they broke up about two years ago). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adam 0 Report post Posted August 19, 2003 Grinspoon are underrated, awesome live band. Silvercahir have evolved, but I liked their old stuff better, 'The Door' was awesome. Sevendust is underrated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Baron 0 Report post Posted August 19, 2003 NIN? Underrated? Where the hell are you from, and why haven't anybody heard of them? NIN, if anything, is overrated. So many teenagers and younger adults (20's and early 30's) think NIN are so cool for being all weird and stuff, when in reality, they fucking suck. Kinda sad when Filter's first album is better than EVERYTHING NIN ever recorded, and Filter has become a bitch band... Except for the fucking suck part, what you said could be said about Tool and Radiohead, because both of them are weird. Filter first album better than Downward Spiral...Please I should revoke your metal license for saying that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted August 19, 2003 Tool being weird is kind of a misnomer, I think. Opiate is some pretty straightforward stuff, and Undertow is similar, only a lot darker. Their latter two albums aren't really THAT off the wall, compared to the earlier progressive stuff that's served them as influences. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edwin MacPhisto 0 Report post Posted August 19, 2003 NIN lyrics are immature and often ridiculous, and I think most of us sorta wear them out by the time we pass 15 or 16, but I don't care because I love the soundscapes Reznor creates. That might be why Broken is my favorite album of his: 22 minutes of concentrated rage, and the vocals are more a half-distorted ranting with occasional loveable phrases like "fist fuck" pushing up through the surface. I wish the guy did more instrumentals. "A Warm Place" is probably my favorite track on Downward Spiral. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kinetic 0 Report post Posted August 19, 2003 The Kinks are definitly better than most of the british bands, and are equal to the Beatles, and Stones... but to say they were better than the Who is outlandish. I think The Kinks are on about the same level as The Who but I don't like The Beatles at all. Beatles > Kinks > Rolling Stones > Who The Who, in my opinion, are a pretty decent band with a really awful lead singer. I certainly have no problem admitting that I enjoy some of their work, but I can't say as though I've ever found any one of their albums to be tolerable all the way through. The Kinks, on the other hand, have about six landmark albums that have stood the test of time just as well as those of any of their more popular contemporaries. But having two songwriters of the calibre of Lennon and McCartney as opposed to one in Ray Davies is impossible to overcome, regardless of how brilliant he was. And as far as the Stones go...they're definitely more important to the development of rock music than the Kinks are, but I just happen to prefer their music. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Baron 0 Report post Posted August 19, 2003 awful singer? decent band? Roger Daultry is a terrific singer and performer. Pete Townshead maybe not be the best guitarist in the world, but his lyrics make up for that, and is over-looked on how well he writes them. John Entwistle made the bass so versitile, instead of just keepin the beat like most other bands back then do. Keith Moon...well...I can't really say much about him. He's good, and is a nut on the stage. The Kinks are a great band, and Ray Davies is a phenomenal writer, but there isn't even a comparison to the Who. The Kinks is a lot better than The Who's early stuff, but after Live at Leeds and up, The Who wrote some of the best material ever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted August 19, 2003 The Who's rhythm section is really what carried that band. Keith Moon was way ahead of his time, and Entwhistle's riffage never failed to impress. I certainly have no problem admitting that I enjoy some of their work, but I can't say as though I've ever found any one of their albums to be tolerable all the way through Not even Live at Leeds? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anorak 0 Report post Posted August 19, 2003 I'll throw a vote in for The Kinks, who are easily one of my favorite bands and, as far as British invasion stuff goes, were easily the equals of the Beatles and Rolling Stones and SO much better than The Who. Their early singles are brilliant and Ray Davies developed into one of the great songwriters of all time around Face to Face. And while they're acknowledged from time to time (particularly in relation to Blur, who they obviously had a major influence on), they're really not as revered as they should be. Totally agree there, I easily like them as much as The Beatles (I'm sure somebody shouted me down for arguing the exact same case in the classic 'contentious statements' thread and said they weren't underrated - I don't think it was Kinetic though). Another underrated band who are sometimes referred to as having influenced Blur are XTC. Personally I think The Kinks just wrote better songs than than The Who but they're possibly not suitable bands to compare as although they shared some traits they weren't strictly bands of the same ilk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
godthedog 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2003 I'll throw a vote in for The Kinks, who are easily one of my favorite bands and, as far as British invasion stuff goes, were easily the equals of the Beatles and Rolling Stones and SO much better than The Who. Their early singles are brilliant and Ray Davies developed into one of the great songwriters of all time around Face to Face. And while they're acknowledged from time to time (particularly in relation to Blur, who they obviously had a major influence on), they're really not as revered as they should be. Totally agree there, I easily like them as much as The Beatles (I'm sure somebody shouted me down for arguing the exact same case in the classic 'contentious statements' thread and said they weren't underrated - I don't think it was Kinetic though). it might have been me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLAGIARISM! 0 Report post Posted August 21, 2003 I love XTC, but God, when they were bad..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Use Your Illusion 0 Report post Posted August 22, 2003 Oasis. Everyone here jumps them long before they have the chance to prove they're fucking brilliant. Definetely Maybe & Morning Glory are two of the greatest British rock records ever written, and EVEN THOUGH RECORD SALES DO NOT NECESSARILY REFLECT TALENT, they are only second to the Beatles in terms of album sales within Britain. They do a mean cover of 'I Am The Walrus' too. UYI Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mesepher Report post Posted August 22, 2003 Pete Townshead maybe not be the best guitarist in the world, but his lyrics make up for that, and is over-looked on how well he writes them. he's gotten much MUCH better in time... did you see them on the last tour? smokin' guitarist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MissMattitude Report post Posted August 22, 2003 The Kinks are definitly better than most of the british bands, and are equal to the Beatles, and Stones... but to say they were better than the Who is outlandish. I think The Kinks are on about the same level as The Who but I don't like The Beatles at all. Beatles > Kinks > Rolling Stones > Who The Who, in my opinion, are a pretty decent band with a really awful lead singer. Thats blashemous... Roger Daltrey is amazing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adam 0 Report post Posted August 22, 2003 Oasis are underrated, I agree. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Use Your Illusion 0 Report post Posted August 23, 2003 The Kinks are definitly better than most of the british bands, and are equal to the Beatles, and Stones... but to say they were better than the Who is outlandish. I think The Kinks are on about the same level as The Who but I don't like The Beatles at all. Beatles > Kinks > Rolling Stones > Who The Who, in my opinion, are a pretty decent band with a really awful lead singer. Thats blashemous... Roger Daltrey is amazing. Blashemous I tell you! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ray Report post Posted August 23, 2003 I'd like to mention Motorhead. I feel they don't get enough respect.....maybe because Triple H likes them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Baron 0 Report post Posted August 23, 2003 Genesis. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nighthawk 0 Report post Posted August 23, 2003 Speaking of Genesis... Peter Gabriel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Baron 0 Report post Posted August 23, 2003 and Steve Hackett, great guitarist. Hell Genesis put out the third best live album ever called Seconds Out, next behind Rock In Rio and Live At Leeds Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justcoz 0 Report post Posted August 31, 2003 I may get ripped on for this but old Kiss is underated. Think about it. While the makeup, the theatrics and the way they were promoted definitely made them superstars - their music from the 70's has with stood the test of time. Despite the fact that you never hear anything but Rock N Roll All Nite and Detroit Rock City on classic rock radio the bulk of their material from that era still holds up today. They weren't great musicians, we all know that but the songs were good. Similar to The Ramones in simplicity. The number of musicians who first picked up an instrument and decided to get into rock n roll because of Kiss is astonishing. Almost every band from 80's hair bands and metal acts to 90's alternative and grunge site them as an influence. Whether it be Bret Michaels, Kirk Hammett, Sabastian Bach, Kurt Kobain, Billy Corgan or J Macias. They sell out venues to this day on reputation - not airplay because radio and critics will never give them their props. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justcoz 0 Report post Posted August 31, 2003 Also... Let me add a band... Jellyfish... Nobody paid any attention and they were great... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLAGIARISM! 0 Report post Posted September 1, 2003 KISS are underrated as a pop band. I just love how a band could produce the cheesiest music on earth and be accused of worshipping Satan. And I always preffered the older stuff too. EDIT: I found this funny, my friend was walking around London wearing a KISS shirt, and these skaters shouted 'Hey man, don't force your beliefs onto us!' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justcoz 0 Report post Posted September 1, 2003 Right, whenever my grandparents pulled the Knights in Satan's Service deal on me, I'd just play Beth, Hard Luck Woman or worst yet the Peter Criss and Paul Stanley solo albums. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
