Being gay is the new trend

[MarvinisaLunatic 0]

More people who are gay = less people who have kids.

 

Its obviously a subliminal media campaign by the government for population control..

 

/paranoid mode off

[Guest Retro Rob]

As far as the whole bisexual girls thing goes, I would say that it has become a lot more common than it was less than 10 years ago. You can chalk that up to a number of reasons. First of all, most males in American society embrace and make it obvious that they want to see women making out with women. On MTV beach shows and other entertainment crap, everday chicks are PAID to make out with one another. Seeing how society accepts that act, it gets them a ton of attention in public and sometimes the media and they make a couple of bucks, why not expolit it for all it's worth. HOWEVER that is not to write off every American in their teens and early adulthood that is stuggling with finding a sexual identity. The way I see it, this current phase of exploiting lesbianism has in a way given a black eye to those who are legitimately experimenting their sexuality.

 

As for the portrayal of gays and bisexuals on TV, this is the fucking media we are talking about. They aren't exactly looking for equal rights or anything else, but they are willing to cash in on something that will draw viewers. That being said, of the shows I have seen that have been based on homosexual characters or real people, most of them have an underlying meaning other than "I'M GAY!!! LOL2003". For instance, Will and Grace is more so a show about friendship than anything else. Queer Eye for the Straight Guy is like any other makeover show in which it gives helpful tips to it's viewers. Now the gay reality bachelor show is obviously very influenced by sexuality, but it also has done a pretty good job of portraying everyday gay people. Not the overly flamboyant characters we tend to see on TV and in movies.

 

What else are we talking about here... AIDS. The difference in the amount of straights and gays with AIDS really is not that large. Nowadays, it is just as common and likely that a straight man will get AIDS from unprotected sex as a gay man will.

 

In conclusion, everyone has an equal chance of getting AIDS. Being gay isn't a cool trend, but more so an accepted way of life, which is why it now seems larger than before. There have always been the same amount of gays and bisexuals in America, except it was never socially acceptable for them to come out, so we rarely heard about the gay community. Now that it is more acceptable, people are not as afraid of being themselves, so the group looks larger than it used to be, but in reality it is not.

[Guest MikeSC]

What else are we talking about here... AIDS. The difference in the amount of straights and gays with AIDS really is not that large. Nowadays, it is just as common and likely that a straight man will get AIDS from unprotected sex as a gay man will.

 

In conclusion, everyone has an equal chance of getting AIDS. Being gay isn't a cool trend, but more so an accepted way of life, which is why it now seems larger than before. There have always been the same amount of gays and bisexuals in America, except it was never socially acceptable for them to come out, so we rarely heard about the gay community. Now that it is more acceptable, people are not as afraid of being themselves, so the group looks larger than it used to be, but in reality it is not.

I'm not sure who told you that, but it is medically false. The odds of transmission through unprotected anal sex is MUCH greater than transmission via unprotected vaginal sex. That is a fact.

-=Mike

[Guest Retro Rob]

What else are we talking about here...  AIDS.  The difference in the amount of straights and gays with AIDS really is not that large.  Nowadays, it is just as common and likely that a straight man will get AIDS from unprotected sex as a gay man will.

 

In conclusion, everyone has an equal chance of getting AIDS.  Being gay isn't a cool trend, but more so an accepted way of life, which is why it now seems larger than before.  There have always been the same amount of gays and bisexuals in America, except it was never socially acceptable for them to come out, so we rarely heard about the gay community.  Now that it is more acceptable, people are not as afraid of being themselves, so the group looks larger than it used to be, but in reality it is not.

I'm not sure who told you that, but it is medically false. The odds of transmission through unprotected anal sex is MUCH greater than transmission via unprotected vaginal sex. That is a fact.

-=Mike

I didn't speicfiy the type of sex. The bottom line is that the term "sex" incorporates (in my mind and most other people's) anal, vaginal, and oral. I wasn't talking about "gay sex" and "straight sex", just the whole transmission of bodily fluids in general.

[Guest MikeSC]

What else are we talking about here...  AIDS.  The difference in the amount of straights and gays with AIDS really is not that large.  Nowadays, it is just as common and likely that a straight man will get AIDS from unprotected sex as a gay man will.

 

In conclusion, everyone has an equal chance of getting AIDS.  Being gay isn't a cool trend, but more so an accepted way of life, which is why it now seems larger than before.  There have always been the same amount of gays and bisexuals in America, except it was never socially acceptable for them to come out, so we rarely heard about the gay community.  Now that it is more acceptable, people are not as afraid of being themselves, so the group looks larger than it used to be, but in reality it is not.

I'm not sure who told you that, but it is medically false. The odds of transmission through unprotected anal sex is MUCH greater than transmission via unprotected vaginal sex. That is a fact.

-=Mike

I didn't speicfiy the type of sex. The bottom line is that the term "sex" incorporates (in my mind and most other people's) anal, vaginal, and oral. I wasn't talking about "gay sex" and "straight sex", just the whole transmission of bodily fluids in general.

And it's still siginificantly less as fewer women will allow anal intercourse than gay men.

-=Mike

[Jobber of the Week 0]

I do.

 

It perdominantly seems to be young teenage to low twenties aged girls that think being "gay" is cool. I have met PLENTY of girls like this...actually I shouldnt say outright Gay but Bisexual. I am convinced from MY experiences that lots of girls do it because it's the cool thing to do these days. Not ALL, but ALOT.

Not sure what you mean. I know there's a lot of so-called "Queer For A Year" types that are usually colleged-aged that seem to pretend to be gay for whatever reason, probably because it offends their parents and that's what young people like to do.

 

However, not everyone who hangs around gay people and gay stuff wants to be gay. I have quite a few female friends who have several gay guy friends because they know they're not being hit on and that they can safely be friends without being proposed in 2 weeks. =b

[Jobber of the Week 0]

The leading cause is heterosexual sex?

In women, yes. I said in the beginning that I was talking soley about women. Stop trying to discredit me through your own ignorance and read.

[Guest MikeSC]

The leading cause is heterosexual sex?

In women, yes. I said in the beginning that I was talking soley about women. Stop trying to discredit me through your own ignorance and read.

You said gay sex is no more dangerous than straight sex, which is a lie.

-=Mike

[Guest JMA]

You said gay sex is no more dangerous than straight sex, which is a lie.

I don't see how Jobber "lied" about it. Anal sex isn't the only type of "gay sex."

[MrRant 0]

Enough talk of what consists of gay sex ok? Same thing as hetro sex except for the guy is missing a hole.

[Guest MikeSC]

You said gay sex is no more dangerous than straight sex, which is a lie.

I don't see how Jobber "lied" about it. Anal sex isn't the only type of "gay sex."

Let's try and avoid these asinine semantic arguments.

-=Mike

[Steviekick 0]

I'm not sure who told you that, but it is medically false. The odds of transmission through unprotected anal sex is MUCH greater than transmission via unprotected vaginal sex. That is a fact.

I don't want to get into an argument, but he IS right. I learned this in my biology class in college. The vagina is designed for sexual penetration, and because of that, the inner lining is much sturdier and more durable. The anus, on the other hand, is not, and will bleed under pressure, making it more succeptable to the acceptance/transmission of viruses. Scientifically speaking, the vagina is more durable.

[Guest MikeSC]

I'm not sure who told you that, but it is medically false. The odds of transmission through unprotected anal sex is MUCH greater than transmission via unprotected vaginal sex. That is a fact.

I don't want to get into an argument, but he IS right. I learned this in my biology class in college. The vagina is designed for sexual penetration, and because of that, the inner lining is much sturdier and more durable. The anus, on the other hand, is not, and will bleed under pressure, making it more succeptable to the acceptance/transmission of viruses. Scientifically speaking, the vagina is more durable.

I'm not sure if that's true (not saying it isn't), but the anal canal doesn't tend to get lubricated as does the vaginal canal.

-=Mike

[Guest Retro Rob]

And it's still siginificantly less as fewer women will allow anal intercourse than gay men.

-=Mike

I don't know if I would say "significantly less". Is it less? More than likely, but anal sex has been incorporated as a large component of straight sex for quite a while now.

 

 

Let's try and avoid these asinine semantic arguments.

-=Mike

 

Why is it that so many people jump at the notion that anal sex is the primary sex among gay men? Is it not possible that like with straights, individual preferences exsist in the world of gay sex? I'm not saying that very few gay men have anal sex, because I have nothing to base that on. But I also wouldn't dub anal sex the official "gay sex" either.

[Guest JMA]

As long as you get regularly tested for STDs, and wear a condom, I see nothing wrong with anal sex.

[Guest JMA]

Why is it that so many people jump at the notion that anal sex is the primary sex among gay men? Is it not possible that like with straights, individual preferences exsist in the world of gay sex? I'm not saying that very few gay men have anal sex, because I have nothing to base that on. But I also wouldn't dub anal sex the official "gay sex" either.

THANK YOU.

[Guest MikeSC]

And it's still siginificantly less as fewer women will allow anal intercourse than gay men.

          -=Mike

I don't know if I would say "significantly less". Is it less? More than likely, but anal sex has been incorporated as a large component of straight sex for quite a while now.

 

 

Let's try and avoid these asinine semantic arguments.

-=Mike

 

Why is it that so many people jump at the notion that anal sex is the primary sex among gay men? Is it not possible that like with straights, individual preferences exsist in the world of gay sex? I'm not saying that very few gay men have anal sex, because I have nothing to base that on. But I also wouldn't dub anal sex the official "gay sex" either.

It is still a small percentage of women who will allow anal sex --- and since homosexual male intercourse, by definition, MUST be anal --- calling it "gay sex" is hardly a stretch.

 

Seeing as how the only kind of INTERCOURSE two men can have would have to be anal, it is very fair to call it "gay sex".

-=Mike

[Guest MikeSC]

As long as you get regularly tested for STDs, and wear a condom, I see nothing wrong with anal sex.

Umm, the natural means of intercourse is infinitely more pleasurable. Any man who prefers anal sex likely harbors homoerotic tendencies.

-=Mike

[Guest JMA]

It is still a small percentage of women who will allow anal sex --- and since homosexual male intercourse, by definition, MUST be anal --- calling it "gay sex" is hardly a stretch.

 

Seeing as how the only kind of INTERCOURSE two men can have would have to be anal, it is very fair to call it "gay sex".

-=Mike

Small percentage? Is there a worldwide poll that asks women if they allow anal sex or not? Where do you draw that conclusion? Do you have any documentation to back it up?

[Guest JMA]

Umm, the natural means of intercourse is infinitely more pleasurable. Any man who prefers anal sex likely harbors homoerotic tendencies.

-=Mike

How could you possibly know that? And how can you decide what exactly is pleasurable to straight men? Just because you're straight doesn't make you an expert on what individual straight men like. By your standards, any guy who likes anal sex with a girl is gay. Sorry, not buying it.

[Guest MikeSC]

Umm, the natural means of intercourse is infinitely more pleasurable. Any man who prefers anal sex likely harbors homoerotic tendencies.

        -=Mike

How could you possibly know that? And how can you decide what exactly is pleasurable to straight men? Just because you're straight doesn't make you an expert on what individual straight men like. By your standards, any guy who likes anal sex with a girl is gay. Sorry, not buying it.

Because it is friggin' common sense. If you don't wish to bite the bullet and take the occasional stand, your life will utterly suck hard.

 

Any guy who prefers anal sex has homoerotic tendencies. Plain and simple.

-=Mike

[BX 0]

As long as you get regularly tested for STDs, and wear a condom, I see nothing wrong with anal sex.

Umm, the natural means of intercourse is infinitely more pleasurable. Any man who prefers anal sex likely harbors homoerotic tendencies.

-=Mike

I am positive that there are tons of straight men that would tell you differently.

 

EDIT: And even if they did have "homoerotic tendencies", how does that invalidate their opinion?

[Guest JMA]

Because it is friggin' common sense. If you don't wish to bite the bullet and take the occasional stand, your life will utterly suck hard.

 

Any guy who prefers anal sex has homoerotic tendencies. Plain and simple.

-=Mike

Bullshit. You have nothing to back that up with. Saying it's "common sense" is just a cop-out.

[Jobber of the Week 0]

You said gay sex is no more dangerous than straight sex, which is a lie.

-=Mike

I said the leading cause of HIV in women is heterosexual sex. This figure is worldwide despite K's interest in soley US-related data. But of course he's trying to blame homosexuals for leading the spread of AIDS, and by ignoring the worldwide issue happening in many other countries like South Africa he's selectively picking his evidence to keep just what will support his opinion.

 

Now, I'm going to speak from my mind from here, purely opinion with no statistics to back me up. So get ready:

 

I think that, in general, homosexuals are better educated in the risks of sex than heterosexual people are. However, in the case of homosexuals, there is quite a bit of education on the subject learned over time. This is because our culture (Showtime and Bravo aside) floods us of images of male/female relationships. Anyone with an attraction for the same sex excluding the "I'm gay because it's cool" people, initially has that outcast feeling where you don't know whether you properly "fit in" because your feelings are opposite those which you keep having shown to you since childhood.

 

Eventually our example person realizes s/he isn't alone, there's other people like this, too. This "we're all in this boat together" feeling is most likely where that gay "community" bit, love it or hate it, comes from. Along with this enlightenment comes knowledge (in today's society, at least) about STDs like HIV, safe sex, regular testing, etc.

 

There is no denying that America has had, at least a while back, a "that's only affects gay people" attitude towards HIV, that plus a "it can never happen to me, right?" mindset probably makes many straight people LESS likely to test for STDs than gay people are.

[Jobber of the Week 0]

Any guy who prefers anal sex has homoerotic tendencies. Plain and simple.

-=Mike

BWAHHAHAHAH

 

It is good to see you are adept at killing your own credibility on these boards. I'm too lazy to do it all alone.

[MrRant 0]

It doesn't kill credibility at all. Have any studies proved or disproved that belief?

[Jobber of the Week 0]

He's painting people with a very VERY broad brush and providing no studies to back that up.

 

I'm taking the more defensible, sensible side. And you're asking ME for the evidence?

[BX 0]

What studies?

 

Are you saying that some dork in a lab coat went around and asked a representative portion of the population if they ever fantizised about men while prospecting on Ye Old Hersey Road?

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

This figure is worldwide despite K's interest in soley US-related data. But of course he's trying to blame homosexuals for leading the spread of AIDS, and by ignoring the worldwide issue happening in many other countries like South Africa he's selectively picking his evidence to keep just what will support his opinion.

For the last time:

 

1) I was focused on American AIDS figures because I assumed the topic regarded American culture. Like I said before, I don't think an Asian or African citizen cares much about how gays are portrayed on American television.

 

2) I never blamed homosexuals for leading the spread of AIDS. I pointed out that they have a disproportionate amount of cases. I know all about how AIDS is wiping out Africa -- especially the sub-Saharan areas -- and is now starting to spread to other developing nations.

 

3) My initial remark about AIDS cases rising within the homosexual community was tongue-in-cheek.

 

May I suggest that perhaps you would take your head out of your own ass before accusing me of things I wasn't even addressing...

Edited August 20, 2003 by kkktookmybabyaway

[MrRant 0]

He's painting people with a very VERY broad brush and providing no studies to back that up.

 

I'm taking the more defensible, sensible side. And you're asking ME for the evidence?

Naw. I'm just saying that a belief in something that hasn't been proved either way does not kill credibility.

 

That would be like saying that Tom has less credibility because he doesn't believe in God when there is no proof either way.

 

That's all.