The Decemberists 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2003 Me and a mate were laughing at a mutual friend being a huge Goldberg mark, and my mate declared that Goldberg in the WWE has been booked worse than the Invasion angle. So then guys, which was worse? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Youth N Asia 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2003 Invasion was...I mean this was the WWF vs WCW deal that everyone wanted to see. And they screwed it up. So for history's sake I'll say Invasion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2003 The InVasion. I don't even see how anyone could argue against that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheFranchise 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2003 I stick with my original statement that InVAsion was the worst booked angle ever. EDIT bloody forest fans Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted August 20, 2003 Invasion. Big time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest webmasterofwrestlegame Report post Posted August 20, 2003 I think it was the Invasion - I think they could of rescued it at several points to make the money everyone thought they could, but they ended up messing up everything (which seemed harder to do than do it successfully). With Goldberg, the moment that they had him in a long match with Rock, it seemed messed up (at least to me it did). However, an interesting note during the Invasion story is that a lot of TV Execs (not WWE brass) were unhappy with WCW wrestlers (as they were being portrayed) being pushed / having a high profile on WWE TV, as that would 'put over' the Turner networks, which they are obviously in competition with. Silly story, but very true and had an impact on things. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Decemberists 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2003 Holy shit! Less than 10 seconds after I post it - two replies! Anyway, I meant to add that In think Invasion was booked worse, but thought it would be interesting to see what people smarter than I think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Insane Bump Machine 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2003 but thought it would be interesting to see what people smarter than I think. And why are you posting it here then? Anyway, Invasion was on of the biggest opportunities in wrestling history. The biggest thing they could have gotten out of Goldberg would have been a temporary ratings boost and 2 or 3 big PPV main events. So yeah, Invasion is worse. Much worse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Decemberists 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2003 I stick with my original statement that InVAsion was the worst booked angle ever In that case, Derby Franchise, I'd better say Goldberg. I mean, agreeing with a Sheep!? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
David Blazenwing 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2003 I didn't see what was wrong with the way they brought Goldberg in. I marked out for that! What, was it because he didn't come as a surprise at WM XIX? I'm a bit lost there... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cran Da Maniac 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2003 The InVasion. It was a once in a lifetime opportunity. Goldberg can be treated bad by one writer, and then they can come up with a compelling storyline for him, and make up that loss, but the InVasion, once they screwed up there was no fixing it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cabbageboy 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2003 I'll actually say Goldberg on this one. Mainly because it is very very easy for GB to get over. You let him destroy people in about 2 mins flat. If you're not willing to do that, don't sign him. The Invasion seems like it would be easy to do, but given the lousy crop of WCW stars they got in the deal (not to mention how bad WCW was perceived at the time) it was nearly impossible to have it work. People tend to forget that there was a lot of tremendous wrestling during the Invasion. The storyline itself as far as WCW's involvement just didn't work. By 2001 it couldn't work. With Goldberg, they have literally bent over backwards to fuck up. Changing his music, making him look inept and ineffectual, putting him in feuds where the crowd naturally would cheer the homegrown WWF guy (Rock), having him sell for guys like Christian. When considering the Invasion angle, ask yourself this: would the angle have been any better had Hogan, Hall, Nash, Steiner, etc. been signed during it? Bischoff as the leader. I mean, it would all just be a tedious revival of the NWO, and they would take over for a while before Vince rallies the troops. The Invasion of one promotion by another is a storyline that can't work if they are owned by the same people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kahran Ramsus 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2003 The Invasion. Here was the biggest storyline in the history of the pro-wrestling that was blown largely because the WWF guys were always booked to win and other numerous gaffs along the way (ex. Buff Bagwell). Goldberg, like the NWO, never was going to work simply because its Goldberg. For one, he is hated in both Canada and the Northeast. These are two of the WWF's biggest markets (the third is Texas, where Goldberg has no problem) so he is working at a disadvantage to begin with. He is both injury-prone, reckless, refuses to job, and won't work more than a set number of dates including no house shows. He is the second coming of the Ultimate Warrior, even if he did get over there is simply no way that this would be able to work due to the baggage that he brings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheFranchise 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2003 I stick with my original statement that InVAsion was the worst booked angle ever In that case, Derby Franchise, I'd better say Goldberg. I mean, agreeing with a Sheep!? Blah, you're a secret goldberg mark. all forest fans are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest webmasterofwrestlegame Report post Posted August 20, 2003 Both Forest and Derby fans are Goldberg marks. You wouldn't find a Southampton Goldberg mark... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hogan Made Wrestling 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2003 Goldberg. The Invasion at least made some good money (Invasion had the best non-WM non-RR buyrate ever IIRC, SummerSlam did a good number, and I'm pretty sure Survivor Series did as well), and produced some great wrestling (Austin vs. Angle mainly, plus some other good stuff like RVD vs. Jericho). Goldberg has provided neither (not that he was expected to provide the second one mind you). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
claydude14 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2003 Meh, InVasion was better than the current product is, which Goldberg is a part of, so I'll say Goldberg. In fact, I'm the only InVasion angle mark I know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheFranchise 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2003 You're the only mark i know too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
claydude14 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2003 Yea definitly... OMG I LOVE THE UNDERTAKER SO MUCH HES GOING TO BE MY AVATAR BECAUSE HES DEAD LOL GET IT?!!!!111!!?!!?!?!!111!?!?!/1! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boner Kawanger 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2003 The InVasion helped drop the ratings into the 3s and 4s. Goldberg only keeps them there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wwF1587 Report post Posted August 20, 2003 invasion totally... i still cant believe how well they fucked that up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KTID 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2003 How can anyone claim Goldberg was booked badly. He just IS bad, no amount of booking could cover that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest webmasterofwrestlegame Report post Posted August 20, 2003 WCW did it for a good few years... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mulatto Heat Report post Posted August 20, 2003 If by "few" you mean "one", then yeah. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JumpinJackFlash Report post Posted August 21, 2003 The picture says it all. I mean, did they make Booker T do Janitorial work? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted August 21, 2003 Booking Goldberg like WCW books Goldberg would be an even bigger slap in the face to WWE fans, as they clearly don't like this guy already and don't want to see him no-sell their favorite wrestlers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted August 21, 2003 Considering Invasion should have been the biggest angle of all-time(at least in North American wrestling history) I'd say it is easiest the worst BOOKED angle ever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Trivia247 Report post Posted August 21, 2003 well Invasion definately screwed up more... not to defend the Crapberg Mark.. but you had a intial idea which was actually pretty good....then suddenly the idea got screwed up along the way.....and when they tried salvaging the angle making a ECW Faction...they fucked it up further by absorbing it into a Alliance stable with the WCW being the more dominent aspect. since ECW couldn't be totally mentioned without lawsuits a crappy angle that lasted a couple of Slow agonizing months but also left us with too many wrestlers doing too few matches and double sets of titles that were at first dismissed then reestablished. in the roster split. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iggymcfly 0 Report post Posted August 21, 2003 Definitely the Invasion. It just went on forever. Remember how well the Rock/Jericho feud got over when they started it? It's because people were thrilled that there was actually an angle that didn't have to do with the Alliance vs. the WWE. Of course they killed the heat on that feud three weeks after No Mercy by having Rock and Jericho do the same backstage skit every week, but that's another story. Oh, and the problem with the angle wasn't that the WWF guys wouldn't job, it was that there weren't any stars in WCW that people wanted to see. The only real "star" coming out of WCW was Booker, and it took the fans about five minutes to see that he sucked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest godofdeadlydeath Report post Posted August 21, 2003 The cover of the INVASION PPV was Vince McMahon's face and Shane McMahon's face mixed together. THAT right there shows that the Invasion was a failure. No WCW men even on the ad poster for the PPV. What a great idea. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
