kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted August 28, 2003 Moore does a lot of good work. But lately he's just annoying. Sad thing is, I do agree with some of the stuff he has said in the past. However, over the years, he has grated on me to the point where the mere sight of him churns my stomach like the butter he puts on his morning loaf of toast... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted August 29, 2003 Well this was really my first exposure to Moore...so I don't have the hate from all the years of experience with him. I still stand by enjoying the movie and the "wonderful life" montage being one of the most powerful things I've ever seen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DARRYLXWF 0 Report post Posted August 29, 2003 I don't know about you, Bob, Asia, the rest, but as a citizen of Australia - not America - I found the documentary both insightful and entertaining. That montage to 'What a Wonderful World' really hit home with me, and I have been raving to my friends about the calibre of this docudrama. I have been a fan of Michael Moore for some years now, as it all started after I had seen an episode of the Awful Truth where Moore had taken victims of Enphasema and other Lung-related diseases to Cigarette companies to sing Christmas Carols. I was surprised that a guy had the balls to do that, and I was even more surprised when I saw Bowling for Columbine. OK, that earlier article proved that Moore was not as accurate as he could have been, but in actual fact, who the hell cares. Over 11 thousand gun-related deaths in America compared to 64 in Australia? Thats incredible. Now I'm not anti-American in any way, shape or form, and I supported Bush's decision in Iraq, but there must be something wrong if America has that many gun related deaths, especially if Canada doesn't, and its only over the river. I'm a fan of Moore, his baseball cap, and his endevours. If you don't like him, don't watch him. Well, thats my political speil out for this month. http://www.hardylaw.net/Truth_About_Bowling.html That's probably as comprehensive as your gonna get for 'Bowling'. Why does America have 11 thousand gun related deaths compared to Australia's 64? Mabe it's because they have 270 million more people than Australia does. And as for your "OK, that earlier article proved that Moore was not as accurate as he could have been, but in actual fact, who the hell cares." thing really fucking confused me. There's no excuse for lying and staging incidents that are made out to be real, especially for a documentary, and especially for a documentary which wins an academy award. No ones disputing the gun problem in the US, but FUCK Moore can be an annoying little runt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mystery Eskimo 0 Report post Posted August 29, 2003 Why does America have 11 thousand gun related deaths compared to Australia's 64? Mabe it's because they have 270 million more people than Australia does. True, but how many gun deaths does China have? Quite a few people there, you know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Betty Houle 0 Report post Posted August 29, 2003 If you think the movie is just full of lies, he did a good job at making those lies then. But since the movie is ostensibly a documentary, basing it on lies, half-truths, staged scenarios, and speeches edited for effect is dishonest. There's precious little point in supporting a dishonest filmmaker who peddles his wares as the truth. This movie isn't supposed to be a presentation-of-facts documentary. It's a drama, it's a comedy, and it's a filmed editorial -- all wrapped up in one! One of the best movies of 2002. See, that's where I always got confused. See, I always thought that documentaries were supposed to be based on truth. Whereas documentaries that were based on nothing but lies and half-truths (which is what Moore does these days) were, at best, "mock" documentaries or just flat out PROPAGANDA. But I suppose I must be wrong. Strike three! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted August 29, 2003 So you're okay with a film that claims to be a documentary despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Betty Houle 0 Report post Posted August 29, 2003 So you're okay with a film that claims to be a documentary despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary? I'm OK with the film being what it's supposed to be - a filmed editorial, a comedy, and a drama. It doesn't fit into any one category. If the Academy wished to see it as a documentary, so be it. I think it should have been in the running for best picture of the year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blue Bacchus 0 Report post Posted September 8, 2003 The movie was trash plain and simple. I'm glad you enjoyed it though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CheesalaIsGood 0 Report post Posted September 11, 2003 Moore makes alot of sense. Whatever critiques you may have of him, the information is still really solid. Moreso than say... the 6 o'clock news. Black guys DO get the shaft in the news. Americans ARE scared shitless. Canada IS a vastly different culture in spite of being a kid brother nation to the US. Sad but true,. the United States has purpetuated a cycle of violence (in attitude and practice) over the years that has left its sense morality and responsibilty at polar opposites. Like it or not, Charlton Heston HAD a big chance to redeem himself after the 2 NRA conventions, and he flopped. Exposed as a racist (obliviously so), having no teleprompters, and lacking the courage of his convictions, he ran for the hills and didn't even have the guts to show these people out the door for fear he might have to continue to speak to them. Because, say what you will about the timeline of the footage from those NRA conventions, it doesn't disproove anything. They are indeed ASSHOLES considering the timing of the shootings and their attempts at damage control in its wake. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
