Guest S&M Report post Posted September 2, 2003 I know this isn't all of them, AND I know SOME of these guys aren't retired but I've heard lots of talk that Jigga and DMX are done making albums after these last few. If I know their still active I'm going to make a seperate place for them, kinda a "as soon as they retired their in" kinda shit. Also producers should be alowed in too. 1. Grandmaster Flash 2. RUN DMC 3. Public Enemy 4. N.W.A 5. Biggie 6. Tupac 7. DMX 8. Bone Thugs-N-Harmony 9. The Beastie Boys 10. Ice Cube 11. Ice T 12. Big Pun 13. Three 6 Mafia 14. Master P (I know I know, but he sold A LOT of albums) 15. Jay Z PRODUCERS::::::: This is a bit shaky, just about every producer I know of, is still in the game. Here's the guys I feel like will be in a hall of fame for producing if and when they retired/are shot dead in the street Suge Knight Sean Combs Dre. Master P Irv Gotti Here's the guys that I feel are a given to be accepted in if and when they retire! Nas Rakim LL Cool J Gang Starr Snoop Dogg Wu Tang Clan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted September 2, 2003 Question -- shouldn't you reduce your list a bit?... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted September 2, 2003 Suge Knight, Irv Gotti and Master P shouldn't be on the producers list. Being EXECUTIVE PRODUCER of a album isn't the same as producing a track (I know that some Puff Daddy arguments will come up, but he has a million times more creds then these guys) Plus your list is a little new school heavy. And where is MC Lyte, Da Brat and Salt and Peppa... And Ma$e deserves to be on there if DMX is. I mean, DMX just has one REALLY long album. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
B. Brian Brunzell 0 Report post Posted September 2, 2003 My inagural Hip-Hop Hall-of-Fame would include the following: Run-DMC Grandmaster Flash Public Enemy KRS-One Tupac Shakur The Notorious B.I.G. MC Lyte Ice-T LL Cool J A Tribe Called Quest Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted September 2, 2003 My inagural Hip-Hop Hall-of-Fame would include the following: Run-DMC Grandmaster Flash Public Enemy KRS-One Tupac Shakur The Notorious B.I.G. MC Lyte Ice-T LL Cool J A Tribe Called Quest Rakim should get any spot over KRS. ESPECIALLY when it was said that Rakim was the ghost writer for alot of KRS's songs back in the day. And if no Big Daddy Kane is on the list, I won't respect it... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Perfxion 0 Report post Posted September 2, 2003 my version Run DMC Kurtis Blow LL Cool J Beastie Boys Rakim BDP Wu Tang Tupac Biggie NWA Grandmaster flash A Tribe Called Quest Outkast MC Lyte Salt N Peppa Jay Z Rather pointless making a THIRD one in all but I felt like doing it so I did. And BTW, maybe TSM should make one where Everyone's input is added...hmmm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ant_7000 0 Report post Posted September 2, 2003 3-6 Mafia in rap HOF They're garbage. Mine would be: Kool Herc Public Enemy Pac Biggie Kool G Rap Rakim Big Daddy Kane ATCQ NWA Grandmaster Flash Ice T Run DMC Kurtis Blow Whodini Sugar Hill Gang Thats all I can think of now, So I might've forgotten some names. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zack Malibu 0 Report post Posted September 2, 2003 EPMD. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted September 2, 2003 Okay, now I might get jumped on for this, but what exactly did Whodini do? They always get propelled up these list, and maybe I am missing something, but they weren't anything spectacular in my eyes. They get all the love Kool Moe Dee should be getting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ant_7000 0 Report post Posted September 2, 2003 So you wasn't feeling "The Freaks come out at night" or "Friends" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest HungryJack Report post Posted September 2, 2003 Wow. No love for Geto Boys/Scarface....ouch. No love for J5, or De La Soul, or Del Tha Funkee Homosapien.... yeeouch. And only ONE person listed Public Enemy....you guys suck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ant_7000 0 Report post Posted September 2, 2003 S&M as far your Producer list none (except Dre) are actually beat makers maybe Irv and Puff (Maybe) and they're lazy producers/beatmakers as well. Puff samples old 70's and 80's without changing/rearranging anything, and Irv just samples Puff's beats for Ashanti and go to Suge for Pac samples for Ja Rule. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted September 2, 2003 The Fat Boys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest S&M Report post Posted September 2, 2003 You mean to tell me you don't think DMX deserves to be in a Rap hall of fame? As far as my list being new school, I didn't see anyone but DMX and Jigga that was really "new school" everyone else that I know of is either retired or damn close! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Hot Thumbtack In The Eye 0 Report post Posted September 2, 2003 Why isn't blondie on this list? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Hot Thumbtack In The Eye 0 Report post Posted September 2, 2003 And DMX should absolutely NOT be in the Hall. Not yet anyway. He hasn't been doing it long enough, and he hasn't been consistently great over the time he's been around. Putting a guy in the hall of fame for roughly 5 years of great to mediocre work would be plain wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted September 2, 2003 So you wasn't feeling "The Freaks come out at night" or "Friends" Yeah, I was...and Don't Rock the Boat. But what really makes them great besides 3 head nodders. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest S&M Report post Posted September 2, 2003 uhhh X has been doin this for nineteen years, this is his last album this year, he's done after this! I'm not a huge X fan or anything, but I know he's pretty respected in the rap community! I think he's just as good as some of the other names thrown out here! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest S&M Report post Posted September 2, 2003 when you say blondie you men Em right? Em's only been out there for what four years? Three MAYBE four albums if you count 8 mile which had like five songs from him on it? Em will with out a doubt in my mind be in it, much like Nas, when he's done, I think everyone will give him a lot more cred than they do now! I didn't think my list was THAT new school that people would be wanting Fifty, Em, Ja Rule guys that that on there! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldSchoolWrestling 0 Report post Posted September 2, 2003 So you wasn't feeling "The Freaks come out at night" or "Friends" Yeah, I was...and Don't Rock the Boat. But what really makes them great besides 3 head nodders. One Love I'm a Ho Fugitive Funky Beat Big Mouth Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldSchoolWrestling 0 Report post Posted September 2, 2003 Too Short Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Hot Thumbtack In The Eye 0 Report post Posted September 2, 2003 I'm aware X has been doing it for 19 years. I've been making songs for 4 years, does that mean I should be in the hall of fame? Only now are people getting interested in my songs, people have ony been interested in X for 5 years or so. and by Blondie i mean Blondie, not eminem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted September 2, 2003 If you're going to have a rap hall of fame there should be some guidelines. The Rock n Roll HOF has a rule that an artist isn't eligible for 25 years after the release their first album. Maybe it would be 15 years for Rap. This is only hypothetical but you can't just rush and put 20 people in at the same time. Quick question. Will the Rock and Roll HOF ever induct rap and hip-hop artists? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest S&M Report post Posted September 2, 2003 I believe they should have their own, their not rock n' roll, their seperate, I'd say 15 years would be good that means we're dealing with what '88, '88 seems like as good of a place as any to start! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
