Spaceman Spiff 0 Report post Posted September 17, 2003 Orlando Jordan b Chuck Palumbo Jeez, Orlando *still* hasn't beaten a "WWE guy" yet. All his wins have been against WCW buy-out guys. Looks to be an awesome show, minus the women's match. And, hey, Matt Hardy is *still* directionless. I'm glad to see they're working on getting The Cat in as an active wrestler, while guys like Matt Hardy and Kanyon have nothing to do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spaceman Spiff 0 Report post Posted September 17, 2003 Bradshaw has some stupid dX type bit, and then tells either Ultimo or Funaki to shut up and learn some English, then turns to Rey and says he doesn't trust anyone in a mask Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dubq 0 Report post Posted September 17, 2003 OK...first off, the dark match results. Am I reading this right... Jaime Noble d. KENDO KASHIN Uh...I knew that Mutoh, the president of All Japan, had been talking to HHH, but uh, can anyone downright CONFIRM that it was THE Kendo Kashin? I noticed that too.........perhaps All Japan and WWE are starting a working relationship? Too bad a lot of the good people left AJ....... Well, Mutoh has pretty much ruined AJPW with the Sportz Entertainment route that he's gone with since taking over.. so, it wouldn't surprise me that he'd want to link up with Vince. Seriously, though. If this is a tryout for Kendo, and Vince didn't know what he was getting with Ultimo, then why the fuck does he even bother having other foreign stars try out? Why does he even bother with a CW division when he obviously doesn't even care about said division? UGH. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haVoc 0 Report post Posted September 17, 2003 I don't know much about Japan, but doesn't Ultimo work lighter then most Japanese wrestlers? Also, what's the problem with Angle and Brock trading the title back and forth? That makes it worth more IMO. It's not like their trading it with Taker, Big Show and Albert every other week. It's the two of them putting on great, hard working matches AND their putting each other over clean for the WWE Champion Title. I love it and you people should appreciate it while you can before Taker starts stinking it up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kurt Angle Mark 0 Report post Posted September 17, 2003 I just read a Smackdown report that said that John Cena cut a promo saying that he was going to win the U.S. title next week. So that might explain why they had Los Guerreros win the tag team titles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haVoc 0 Report post Posted September 17, 2003 More Detailed Smackdown/Velocity Spoilers Report More on Velocity and SD!... Credit: Brad Stutts & PWTorch.com Crowd was pretty decent, I'd say between 60-75% but I'd guess heavily papered. DARK MATCHES (1) Jamie Noble pinned Kendo Ka Shin. Even as a novice Japanese wrestling fan, it was a treat to see Ka Shin live as we got there just in time for about the last three minutes or so of the match. (2) A-Train & Sean O'Haire defeated Paul London & Spanky. Good to see London live as well. This wasn't a squash per se but Spanky got nearly all of the offense in for his team. Spanky took the pin after a Derailer. VELOCITY TAPINGS (1) Big Show defeated Murray Happer & Pat Cusick in a handicap match. Cusick and Happer, better known as Otto Schwanz/Bo Dupp are both from Carolina Wrestling Federation based out of Burlington, NC. Show dominated and pinned Cusick following a chokeslam. (2) Matt Hardy pinned Joey Matthews with a Twist of Fate. Hardy got a big North Carolina pop and Matthews went heel for the match. Good back-and-fourth match. (3) Happer & Cusick returned to the ring and Happer got on the mic (!), doing the "Shaddup!" shtick he often uses at local events. He went on to insist that their previous match was a fluke and demanded Big Show return to the ring. Show did so and defeated both of them again in an even shorter match, pinning Cusick again. I'm assuming this was a do-over. (6) Billy Kidman pinned Shannon Moore following a Shooting Star Press. (7) Orlando Jordan pinned Chuck Palumbo. Palumbo was originally escorted by Nunzio and Johnny Stamboli but they were ejected following interference. This match got the only audible "boring" chant of the night. Jordan, who has a good built but doesn't show much charisma or athleticism, went over. SMACKDOWN TAPINGS Vince McMahon appeared on the Titantron and put over the iron man match main event before being confronted by Undertaker, in his only appearance of the night. (1) Chris Benoit & Rey Misterio Jr. defeated Tajiri & Rhyno when Misterio pinned Rhyno following a 619 and a springboard leg drop. Good action. (2) Shaniqua defeated Torrie Wilson & Nidia w/ Dawn Marie in a handicap match. Short and painless. Vince McMahon, Big Show and Sable were harassing Stephanie McMahon in her office trying to get her to quit. This was shockingly the only McMahon segment of the night. John Cena cut a taped promo from the roof of the building saying he was America's team (while wearing a Braves jersey) and heeled on John Ritter. He also said he'd win the U.S. Title next week Los Guerreros cut a babyface promo in their locker room (3) Eddie & Chavo Guerrero defeated Charlie Haas & Shelton Benjamin to win the WWE Tag Team Titles. Los Guerreros got an insanely loud pop. Eddie Guerrero may very well be the most over act in WWE right now. Great match from both teams, as per usual. Haas & Benjamin are the best thing to happen to American tag teams since the Hollywood Blondes, although both appeared to be injured after the match. At one point Benjamin attempted a belt shot but missed and Chavo went to roll him up but Benjamin sold it like a clip to the back of the leg. He rolled to the floor and was not seen again the rest of the match, appearing to be legit injured. Los Guerreros double-teamed Haas and hit a flapjack that appeared to go wrong as well, as Haas landed on either the top or back of his head. Chavo went to pick Haas up and he was nearly limp, Chavo hit the brain buster and tagged in Eddy who nailed the frog splash to a HUGE pop for the pin and the titles. Afterwards, both Haas & Benjamin were helped to the back, Haas walked out under his own power but Benjamin was helped back and was favoring his leg. Despite the two awkward spots where injuries apparently occurred, this was an awesome tag team stuff executed perfectly. Separate shots were shown of the FBI, Basham Brothers, A-Train, O'Haire, Hardy & Moore in the heel locker room and the APA, Funaki, Ultimo Dragon and others in the APA office playing cards, discussing the iron man match. (4) Brock Lesnar defeated Kurt Angle in a sixty-minute iron man match to win the WWE Championship. This was a tremendous match. Angle won the first fall by disqualification following a chairshot by Lesnar but Lesnar wore him down enough to win the next two with an F5 and ankle lock in quick succession. Referee Brian Hebner took a sick bump off a Lesnar clothesline that incapacitated him for a few minutes. I won't spoil all the falls but I felt this was a very smartly booked and smartly paced match that ended up 5-4 in Lesnar's favor. Angle hit seven consecutive rolling German suplexes in the last minute of the match trying to put Lesnar away before locking on an Ankle Lock (which got a huge pop each time it was used) but Lesnar held on long enough to win the match 5-4. I'd definitely call this MOTYC quality. Some will blast the heel stalling by Lesnar during the first 10 or so minutes but I felt it was smartly paced and booked and fit well in context. I was shocked (in a good way) to see it end clean without a run in from McMahon, Taker or both. Don't know how it will play on television, but a super match live and was thrilled that it ended cleanly. Post-match, Kurt Angle addressed the crowd and thanked them, saying he would not have made it back from a broken neck if not for them, leaving to a thunderous ovation. This was the best WWF/E show I have attended in 20 years as a fan, blowing away the lackluster Unforgiven 98 and KOTR 99 PPVs and numerous house shows and TV tapings during the boom when WWF ran Greensboro quarterly. The show was nearly all action from top to bottom with no run-ins and all clean finishes. Just a night of great wrestling. Biggest Pops: Eddie Guerrero, Undertaker in his Titantron appearance, Kurt Angle post-match Credit: 411mania Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rising up out of the back seat-nuh 0 Report post Posted September 17, 2003 Well, it looks like they're gonna do what they did last year with Lesnar and Angle, but with the roles reversed. Face chases heel for months, only to finally win the title at Wrestlemania: it's one for the ages. And it's nice to see that two amateur champions are basically having a year+ feud at the top of the card. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Polish_Rifle Report post Posted September 17, 2003 I hope Haas and Benjamin are not seriously hurt. If they are out then that means more tv time for the Bashams and the APA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spaceman Spiff 0 Report post Posted September 17, 2003 I'll take more Bashams, although in addition to, not at the expense of, Haas/Benjamin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted September 17, 2003 Ripper won't like Cena's heeling on ritter Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted September 17, 2003 You god damn right I won't. Once again wrestling makes people embarassed to be fans by taking someones death from DAYS ago and making a damn joke of it. The press got up Joel Gertners ass for his JFK Jr. comments, I wonder if there will be any backlash to this. (remembers some of the wrestlers being pissed at Kilborn for the Owen joke. WWE is full of hypocrites) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted September 17, 2003 Let's see what he says first...maybe he'll stay something I'm not a quitter, I have a bigger heart then john ritter... or maybe it's something tasteless. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted September 17, 2003 How is THAT not tasteless. I mean the guy died LESS than a week ago. Its common respect. Hopefully it gets edited out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Markme123 0 Report post Posted September 17, 2003 Let's see what he says first...maybe he'll stay something I'm not a quitter, I have a bigger heart then john ritter... or maybe it's something tasteless. Fuck it. That shit was funny. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted September 17, 2003 In away i hope it doesn't get edited out. It's never a bad thing when the WWE is deservedley ripped. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Smell the ratings!!! Report post Posted September 17, 2003 no run-ins for the ironman match? *marks the fuck out* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted September 17, 2003 Well, it's nice to see DK get one, I guess, although he really should have won the Summerslam one and Angle win here. It makes no sense for the Olympic athlete guy to not win here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Polish_Rifle Report post Posted September 17, 2003 What has Matt Hardy done since losing the CW title? Beat up Zach a few times, get stuck on Velocity and in a short-term tag team with Shannon Moore. It seems like they keep pushing him to the side in place of yet another Albert push, which I think just ended again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted September 17, 2003 It doesn't help that his gimmick and catchphrases are so over that people keep cheering for him even though he's supposed to be a heel. They need to do an Edge & Christian kind of thing with those two and have Matt rag on the hometown teams or something at this point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spaceman Spiff 0 Report post Posted September 17, 2003 Or turn him face. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Markme123 0 Report post Posted September 17, 2003 Well he was out of action for a short time, so some of the absences were valid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haVoc 0 Report post Posted September 17, 2003 What the fuck did Kilborn say about Owen? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ram Report post Posted September 17, 2003 What the fuck did Kilborn say about Owen? "The Blue Blazer fell 50 feet from the top of the arena to his death however his partner the white turtleneck was not harmed." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted September 17, 2003 no run-ins for the ironman match? Our prayers were answered! Jeez, Orlando *still* hasn't beaten a "WWE guy" yet He did beat A-Train one time. John Cena cut a taped promo from the roof of the building saying he was America's team (while wearing a Braves jersey) and heeled on John Ritter. He also said he'd win the U.S. Title next week They can't wait until No Mercy? "The Blue Blazer fell 50 feet from the top of the arena to his death however his partner the white turtleneck was not harmed." God, Kilborn's an asshole. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tawren 0 Report post Posted September 17, 2003 So, I violently need to see this show. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spaceman Spiff 0 Report post Posted September 18, 2003 He did beat A-Train one time. You sure about that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fökai 0 Report post Posted September 18, 2003 He did beat A-Train one time. No, he hasn't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spaceman Spiff 0 Report post Posted September 18, 2003 Didn't think so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted September 18, 2003 (edited) Im quite pissed that WWE STAMFRD is having satellite problems. I got the first hour (Sans ironman match). I'm gonna upload a pic of where Benjamin got hurt, and I'm transcribing Cenas freestyle right now. Waiting for the ironman match.. Cena: Underestimated the Guererros I don't know what to say bro Those dudes are better at cheatin than Ben Afleck is with J Lo I don't got the US Title But I didn't lose any steam Ted Turner and the Braves? I'm Americas Team John Cena's more American than silicone stripers Leaving cats dead in their tracks with heart attacks like John Ritter And next week John Cena fufils his patriotic duty I'll be higher than hippies at 4:20 watchin a Cheech & Chong movie I'm an American thug standin on top of this building Leaving all oposition dead like Saddam Hussein's children Word Life Ironman Match Tazz's Key's To Victory Brock Lesnar 1 Strong Style 2 Numerous F-5's 3 Channeled Rage Kurt Angle 1 1rst Ankle Lock 2 Mat Game 3 No Angle Slam? (Brock could counter it..) Next week, Tajiri vs Rey Mysteiro for the Cruiserweight Title was announced. Obviously, the worst match so far (still haven't gotten the Ironman Match)was the 2 on 1 match women's match. Best was the Tag Title match...so far. Im setting my tape because Im tired and I also have to deal with the stupid hurricane tomorrow. Edited September 18, 2003 by MarvinisaLunatic Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fökai 0 Report post Posted September 18, 2003 Could you describe how Shelton got hurt? Thanks Marv. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
