CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted October 15, 2003 2. With that said, they compete in a free market system. There is NOTHING stopping the other 29 teams from doing the same thing the Yankees are doing? Want to spend alot of money? Try using your business sense to build more revenue streams, like the Yankees have done. They have an advantage because they play in New York? Well then what's wrong with the Mets? Free market theories don't completely apply to baseball, because, unlike a real world economic model, if their competition goes out of business, so do the Yankees. The Yankees need opponents to remain in business, and it's in their own best interest, as well as that of the other teams and the league in general, to not become so far above the rest of the league that other teams become non-viable due to lack of fan interest. That's where revenue-sharing comes in. 4. EVERY dynasty has been built on a team's farm system. The Yankees stunk until they got a solid base of players from the minors. The Yankees will struggle to compete in the coming years as their players age. Even as recently as twenty years ago, I would agree with you whole-heartedly. Now, when the Yankees have virtually unlimited resources and can pluck All-Stars from other teams' rosters at will, I can't agree. The only thing that that can bring about the downfall of the Yankees now is ineptitude in the general manager's office, and that's not going to happen as long as Cashman's there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted October 15, 2003 Free market theories don't completely apply to baseball, because, unlike a real world economic model, if their competition goes out of business, so do the Yankees. The Yankees need opponents to remain in business, and it's in their own best interest, as well as that of the other teams and the league in general, to not become so far above the rest of the league that other teams become non-viable due to lack of fan interest. That's where revenue-sharing comes in. Right now, interest in baseball is great enough that no team is remotely in danger of going out of business. If a team were drawing under 10,000 a game or so, there would be a problem. But in today's game, the sport is competitive enough to survive just fine. Name any team that has been terrible the last 5 years, and I can show you the clear path of ineptitude that led them there, not economics. Even as recently as twenty years ago, I would agree with you whole-heartedly. Now, when the Yankees have virtually unlimited resources and can pluck All-Stars from other teams' rosters at will, I can't agree. The only thing that that can bring about the downfall of the Yankees now is ineptitude in the general manager's office, and that's not going to happen as long as Cashman's there. The point is that no team has done it. The Yankees can fall. They have ALOT of money tied into some players. Jeter, Giambi both make $20 mil. They'll age, and they'll still be paid. There may come a point where the Yankees fail to succeed, and then the revenue dries up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted October 15, 2003 Right now, interest in baseball is great enough that no team is remotely in danger of going out of business. If a team were drawing under 10,000 a game or so, there would be a problem. But in today's game, the sport is competitive enough to survive just fine. Name any team that has been terrible the last 5 years, and I can show you the clear path of ineptitude that led them there, not economics. Montreal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted October 15, 2003 Montreal drew more fans than the NY Mets as recently as the mid 90s. The franchise disintegrated the moment Jeff Loria bought the team. Loria failed to negotiage simple television coverage, and interest in the team plummeted. As soon as he saw his opening, he bolted. Had the Expos had a competent owner, they've could've gotten a tv contract and maintained a fan base. And even in the abysmal position they're in, they still did better than the $100 million Mets this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted October 15, 2003 anyone actually watching the game? cubbies need some Insurance Runs... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted October 15, 2003 good hit by Alou Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Stunt Granny Report post Posted October 15, 2003 Time to get shelled again Willis! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted October 15, 2003 bring mr Outta control to the mound...Thank god the marlins gave the cubs an easier route... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mik 0 Report post Posted October 15, 2003 I'm back. Closer than I thought it would be. Tried to find the game on the radio from NYC back to Ithaca, and couldn't. If Willis gets this out and the Marlins get this game, I will be so pumped. I know this thread missed my constant Marlins shilling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted October 15, 2003 you returned just in time to see Willis get killed... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted October 15, 2003 Never put a kid in to do a MANS job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Stunt Granny Report post Posted October 15, 2003 Good Lord Willis, can you do anything right these days! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted October 15, 2003 Willis proves that he was just a hot brief senstation as everyone figured him out now... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mik 0 Report post Posted October 15, 2003 Ok, now he got the K and we need some O. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted October 15, 2003 Something tells me Willis will be a "Where are they now" in 5 years... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mik 0 Report post Posted October 15, 2003 I think you're over reacting Choken. Keep in mind he's only 21 years old, he isn't technically supposed to be here yet, and he's not exactly dying out there. One bad outing doesn't ruin a great season of pitching. If he goes 7-18 next year than that's a different story. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Stunt Granny Report post Posted October 15, 2003 Flash in the pan, yes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted October 15, 2003 Nah he just has that one time wonder aura about him... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mik 0 Report post Posted October 15, 2003 This run can not score if the Marlins want to win this game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Stunt Granny Report post Posted October 15, 2003 There ya go, Mik. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruiser Chong 0 Report post Posted October 15, 2003 I've gotta actually agree with Mik here. Like Zambrano, Willis is going to get better as he learns and gets older. You can't expect every young guy to be like Prior out there. And now it's 3-0. GO CUBS! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted October 15, 2003 RUN SCORES!!! 3-0 CUBS! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iliketurtles 0 Report post Posted October 15, 2003 The Cubs are going to the World Series. This is unbelivably amazing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Stunt Granny Report post Posted October 15, 2003 Who the hell is this guy and what has he done with Sammy Sosa? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iliketurtles 0 Report post Posted October 15, 2003 Damnit, if the Sox can't do it...the Cubs is the next best thing. I feel so fucking happy for those guys, and all their long time fans as well. It's such a great feeling that a team FINALLY gets back to the Series. I love baseball. I don't feel emotion like this for any other sports as much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Stunt Granny Report post Posted October 15, 2003 5 outs to go.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mik 0 Report post Posted October 15, 2003 Well, that double helps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Stunt Granny Report post Posted October 15, 2003 crap... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mik 0 Report post Posted October 15, 2003 Thank you, Mr. Fan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
