Goodbye Vin Diesel... Hello Ice Cube...

[Guest NaturalBornThriller4:20]

Ice Cube will replace Vin Diesel in the Revolution sequel to its action franchise XXX, to be directed by Lee Tamahori (Die Another Day).

 

Originally envisioned as a franchise to star Diesel, Cube will step in to play a new character who is recruited by the National Security Agency to become a XXX agent. The XXX name refers to a three-strikes rule the NSA employs to give criminals the option of joining the crime-fighting force or going to prison.

 

Tamahori will direct the new adventure, which will be largely set in Washington D.C. and emphasize thriller elements over the first's extreme sports action. He will helm from a script by Simon Kinberg (Mr. and Mrs. Smith). Revolution plans to begin shooting next summer for a 2005 release.

 

Vin Diesel next stars in The Chronicles of Riddick, Universal's followup to Pitch Black, and did not want to film two sequels back-to-back.

 

Diesel will instead star in Hannibal for Revolution. Written by Gladiator screenwriter David Franzoni, the film follows the exploits of the 3rd century B.C. Carthaginian general who rode an elephant across the Alps to attack Rome.

 

Source: Variety / ComingSoon.net

 

 

Um... WOW.

[Zack Malibu 0]

Is this going to be a Diesel habit, of backing out of the sequels to his most successful movies?

[Ripper 0]

I'm guessing in about 4 years he will be doing straight to video sequals of his most successful movies when SOMEBODY realises that he can't act.

 

4 Fast 4 Furious and XXX-6 is coming soon.

[Guest NaturalBornThriller4:20]

Well, this is a step in the right direction. Yeah, it's usually bad when your main "Star" completely drops out of the franchise that was made for him.

 

And while I like Vin Diesel, Ice Cube can act 1000 times better on his worst day.

[Zack Malibu 0]

I'm guessing in about 4 years he will be doing straight to video sequals of his most successful movies when SOMEBODY realises that he can't act.

 

4 Fast 4 Furious and XXX-6 is coming soon.

Betcha any money when it comes to that point, you have a direct to video action blowaway with Diesel, Van Damme, and Seagal.

 

C'mon, who WOULDN'T wanna see a street racer get put into a coma only to awaken and team with his shady yet goodhearted twin to get the drug dealers who murdered their parents because their parents were part of a secret spy organization that did undercover work in Thailand? I'd camp out in front of Blockbuster for that shit.

[Zack Malibu 0]

I'm guessing in about 4 years he will be doing straight to video sequals of his most successful movies when SOMEBODY realises that he can't act.

 

4 Fast 4 Furious and XXX-6 is coming soon.

Funny how Diesel backed out of doing 2F2F, since part one was never designed to "get him over". It was supposed to be Walker's vehicle all along.

[razazteca 0]

I'm guessing in about 4 years he will be doing straight to video sequals of his most successful movies when SOMEBODY realises that he can't act.

 

4 Fast 4 Furious and XXX-6 is coming soon.

Betcha any money when it comes to that point, you have a direct to video action blowaway with Diesel, Van Damme, and Seagal.

 

C'mon, who WOULDN'T wanna see a street racer get put into a coma only to awaken and team with his shady yet goodhearted twin to get the drug dealers who murdered their parents because their parents were part of a secret spy organization that did undercover work in Thailand? I'd camp out in front of Blockbuster for that shit.

Universal Soldier would kickass if Vin took the role of the renegade soldier and is chased by Van Dam as the only one who can stop him and Gary Busey as the crazy govt politician trying to destroy an Indian Reservation that is sitting on an oil field, of course Steven Segal would step in to protect nature.

[Mole 0]

Or Vin could just not act, ever again. Ever.

[Zack Malibu 0]

Or Vin could just not act, ever again. Ever.

I don't mind him. It's not like some of the more heralded action stars while we were growing up were any better.

 

I thought he was good in A Man Apart. That movie kicked ass.

[Ripper 0]

I'm guessing in about 4 years he will be doing straight to video sequals of his most successful movies when SOMEBODY realises that he can't act.

 

4 Fast 4 Furious and XXX-6 is coming soon.

Betcha any money when it comes to that point, you have a direct to video action blowaway with Diesel, Van Damme, and Seagal.

 

C'mon, who WOULDN'T wanna see a street racer get put into a coma only to awaken and team with his shady yet goodhearted twin to get the drug dealers who murdered their parents because their parents were part of a secret spy organization that did undercover work in Thailand? I'd camp out in front of Blockbuster for that shit.

Universal Soldier would kickass if Vin took the role of the renegade soldier and is chased by Van Dam as the only one who can stop him and Gary Busey as the crazy govt politician trying to destroy an Indian Reservation that is sitting on an oil field, of course Steven Segal would step in to protect nature.

Or he can be a street racer that has to help his friend fight off Jamacians in a Kumate and Steven Segal as the cop who Miracilously never gets injured(or hit) through the whole movie. Vin can yell to Van Damne when Bolo Yung(with dread locks) blinds him, telling him where to punch. Then Segal just comes in and kicks his ass without getting hit...basically like every Steven Segal movie EVER!!

[Zack Malibu 0]

I'm guessing in about 4 years he will be doing straight to video sequals of his most successful movies when SOMEBODY realises that he can't act.

 

4 Fast 4 Furious and XXX-6 is coming soon.

Betcha any money when it comes to that point, you have a direct to video action blowaway with Diesel, Van Damme, and Seagal.

 

C'mon, who WOULDN'T wanna see a street racer get put into a coma only to awaken and team with his shady yet goodhearted twin to get the drug dealers who murdered their parents because their parents were part of a secret spy organization that did undercover work in Thailand? I'd camp out in front of Blockbuster for that shit.

Universal Soldier would kickass if Vin took the role of the renegade soldier and is chased by Van Dam as the only one who can stop him and Gary Busey as the crazy govt politician trying to destroy an Indian Reservation that is sitting on an oil field, of course Steven Segal would step in to protect nature.

Or he can be a street racer that has to help his friend fight off Jamacians in a Kumate and Steven Segal as the cop who Miracilously never gets injured(or hit) through the whole movie. Vin can yell to Van Damne when Bolo Yung(with dread locks) blinds him, telling him where to punch. Then Segal just comes in and kicks his ass without getting hit...basically like every Steven Segal movie EVER!!

Or they could go the "badass rapper sidekick" route that made Exit Wounds et al good movies. DMX and Ice Cube are too big budget for this, so take I dunno...Biz Markie and have him be Seagal's wisecracking partner in a police headquarters that is overwhelmed by corruption, with Van Damme and Diesel as the undercover anithero good guys who are pretending to be bad (or are they), Alyssa Milano as the love interest that the three guys fawn and fight over, and Cary Hirouki-Tagawa as the Yakuza goon responsible for buying off the cops and transporting drugs in these hot rod racers. Have Cynthia Rothrock make a cameo to beat the piss out of Milano's character and we've got a winner.

[Guest NaturalBornThriller4:20]

Or Vin could just not act, ever again. Ever.

I don't mind him. It's not like some of the more heralded action stars while we were growing up were any better.

 

I thought he was good in A Man Apart. That movie kicked ass.

I knew somebody out there liked A Man Apart, or Vin Diesel for that matter.

 

Glad I wasn't the only one.

[Guest NaturalBornThriller4:20]

By the way, Cary Hirouki-Tagawa is too good for that...

[Zack Malibu 0]

Or Vin could just not act, ever again. Ever.

I don't mind him. It's not like some of the more heralded action stars while we were growing up were any better.

 

I thought he was good in A Man Apart. That movie kicked ass.

I knew somebody out there liked A Man Apart, or Vin Diesel for that matter.

 

Glad I wasn't the only one.

I like Vin, he's OK. A Man Apart was a damn good flick, and that one scene where he flips (you know the one) was so freakin' intense, I loved it.

 

Knockaround Guys was another good movie with him as the "badass with a heart".

[Guest El Satanico]

And he was good in the Iron Giant.

 

Want to talk terrible actors, look no further than Vin's co-star in Fast and The Furious Paul Walker. Despite the awful dialogue he was given Vin was the only one that had a presence in that movie, Walker was just a warm body standing here spouting cringe worthy lines.

 

 

The majority of his films have been awful and included terrible dialogue, yet everyone uses them as examples to call him a bad actor. Deniro would've been rubbish with the material in XXX and Fast and The Furious.

 

Of course, I'm not trying to compare Vin to Deniro. It's just that you can't make an accurate judgment call on acting ability based on bad movies. However, you can make a judgment call on screen presense, which Vin has shown in every movie regardless of how bad it was.

[Ripper 0]

I'm guessing in about 4 years he will be doing straight to video sequals of his most successful movies when SOMEBODY realises that he can't act.

 

4 Fast 4 Furious and XXX-6 is coming soon.

Betcha any money when it comes to that point, you have a direct to video action blowaway with Diesel, Van Damme, and Seagal.

 

C'mon, who WOULDN'T wanna see a street racer get put into a coma only to awaken and team with his shady yet goodhearted twin to get the drug dealers who murdered their parents because their parents were part of a secret spy organization that did undercover work in Thailand? I'd camp out in front of Blockbuster for that shit.

Universal Soldier would kickass if Vin took the role of the renegade soldier and is chased by Van Dam as the only one who can stop him and Gary Busey as the crazy govt politician trying to destroy an Indian Reservation that is sitting on an oil field, of course Steven Segal would step in to protect nature.

Or he can be a street racer that has to help his friend fight off Jamacians in a Kumate and Steven Segal as the cop who Miracilously never gets injured(or hit) through the whole movie. Vin can yell to Van Damne when Bolo Yung(with dread locks) blinds him, telling him where to punch. Then Segal just comes in and kicks his ass without getting hit...basically like every Steven Segal movie EVER!!

Or they could go the "badass rapper sidekick" route that made Exit Wounds et al good movies. DMX and Ice Cube are too big budget for this, so take I dunno...Biz Markie and have him be Seagal's wisecracking partner in a police headquarters that is overwhelmed by corruption, with Van Damme and Diesel as the undercover anithero good guys who are pretending to be bad (or are they), Alyssa Milano as the love interest that the three guys fawn and fight over, and Cary Hirouki-Tagawa as the Yakuza goon responsible for buying off the cops and transporting drugs in these hot rod racers. Have Cynthia Rothrock make a cameo to beat the piss out of Milano's character and we've got a winner.

OR just let them redo the Three Amigos just for seeing them in the out fits and Segal trying to get on a horse.

 

And in that scene at the bar, they can have the Mexican guy say "LOOK AT THE THREE LITTLE SISSIES!" and they would kick everyone in the bars ass.

 

Kristy Swanson can play the girl from the village that gets kidnapped that they have to save. And the villiage can be a mining town that El Wopo is trying to take over for oil or something(to keep Segal intrested)

 

Then they could have a big show down with El Wopo (only have it be Bolo Yung with a big mustache and sombero but still doing the wide eyed throat cut gesture) where everyone takes a beating(except Segal of course, because fat guys with pony tails never get hit) and they eventually win at the end.

 

Vin Diesal can be Ned Nedillender, Segal can be Dusty and Van Dammn can be Lucky Day.

 

That would be GOLD just for Vin Diesal singing "Bluuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuue shadows on the trail"

[Ripper 0]

And he was good in the Iron Giant.

 

Want to talk terrible actors, look no further than Vin's co-star in Fast and The Furious Paul Walker. Despite the awful dialogue he was given Vin was the only one that had a presence in that movie, Walker was just a warm body standing here spouting cringe worthy lines.

 

 

The majority of his films have been awful and included terrible dialogue, yet everyone uses them as examples to call him a bad actor. Deniro would've been rubbish with the material in XXX and Fast and The Furious.

 

Of course, I'm not trying to compare Vin to Deniro. It's just that you can't make an accurate judgment call on acting ability based on bad movies. However, you can make a judgment call on screen presense, which Vin has shown in every movie regardless of how bad it was.

What about Boiler room where he was the only one that sounded like he was reading every line. Affleck put him to SHAME in that movie.

 

He does have presense though. Of course, that comes from him being the biggest mo-fo on the screen, but he certainly has presense.

[Guest El Satanico]

Knockaround Guys was another good movie with him as the "badass with a heart".

Knockaround Guys should've been alot better than it was. It had a great cast and good story, so it had no business being as bad as it was. The cast must've not clicked together or it just had a weak script.

[Zack Malibu 0]

OR, they could do a Three Men and a Baby remake, where they play former boxers down on their luck who find a baby girl on their step. Turns out the girl was left their by her mother (Teri Hatcher) who is on the run from a mob boss played by Andrew Dice Clay (in a rare serious performance). Throw in the OMG SWERVE that Dice is the father of the baby (and the moral issues going along with it) and we've got another hot direct to Blockbuster masterpiece.

[Ripper 0]

OR, they could do a Three Men and a Baby remake, where they play former boxers down on their luck who find a baby girl on their step. Turns out the girl was left their by her mother (Teri Hatcher) who is on the run from a mob boss played by Andrew Dice Clay (in a rare serious performance). Throw in the OMG SWERVE that Dice is the father of the baby (and the moral issues going along with it) and we've got another hot direct to Blockbuster masterpiece.

Shit...I'd buy that.

[Guest El Satanico]

And he was good in the Iron Giant.

 

Want to talk terrible actors, look no further than Vin's co-star in Fast and The Furious Paul Walker. Despite the awful dialogue he was given Vin was the only one that had a presence in that movie, Walker was just a warm body standing here spouting cringe worthy lines.

 

 

The majority of his films have been awful and included terrible dialogue, yet everyone uses them as examples to call him a bad actor. Deniro would've been rubbish with the material in XXX and Fast and The Furious.

 

Of course, I'm not trying to compare Vin to Deniro. It's just that you can't make an accurate judgment call on acting ability based on bad movies. However, you can make a judgment call on screen presense, which Vin has shown in every movie regardless of how bad it was.

What about Boiler room where he was the only one that sounded like he was reading every line. Affleck put him to SHAME in that movie.

 

He does have presense though. Of course, that comes from him being the biggest mo-fo on the screen, but he certainly has presense.

Well, I'm not claiming that he's a great actor. I just don't think he's as bad as some people claim he is.

[Zack Malibu 0]

Shit, I'd buy all of these movies if they were real.

 

As for Boiler Room, that was a wicked good movie, but yeah Diesel seemed a bit out of place amongst the rest of the cast.

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

Knockaround Guys should've been alot better than it was. It had a great cast and good story, so it had no business being as bad as it was. The cast must've not clicked together or it just had a weak script.

I was a little disappointed by it, but I did have unusually high expectations when renting it.

 

Although I must say between this and "Con Air" Jon Malkovich is one of my favorite bad-guy actors...

[DangerousDamon 0]

OR, they could do a Three Men and a Baby remake, where they play former boxers down on their luck who find a baby girl on their step. Turns out the girl was left their by her mother (Teri Hatcher) who is on the run from a mob boss played by Andrew Dice Clay (in a rare serious performance). Throw in the OMG SWERVE that Dice is the father of the baby (and the moral issues going along with it) and we've got another hot direct to Blockbuster masterpiece.

shit dude, i would see that............

 

on the big screen.

 

that sounds like a pretty decent movie.

[Your Paragon of Virtue 0]

As far as Boiler Room goes, Affleck soooo wanted to be Baldwin from Glengarry Glen Ross, and failed miserably. Don't get me started on Ben.

[Guest Choken One]

Vin Diesel has a odd method to his movie choices...He still hasn't had that "breakout" movie acting wise (Although, I haven't seen A Man Apart) and is really the "star" he is for his amazing presence and Charisma, but these days Alot of Big Muscle Charismatic stars are popping up, Such as THE ROCK, whom showed acting chops in Rundown...

 

Vin Diesel shouldn't be the lead but merely the side act, He wasn't the FOCUS of F&F (that was Walker) but he MADE that movie his...

 

Same thing wih Knockaround Guys, the movie as all about Barry Pepper's character but he stood out the most..

 

As for Ice Cube? I'm sorry, I don't buy him as a ACTION star but I think I can buy him with a little character along the lines of "Street Smart" where he relies on his intelligence rather then muscle...

[Vyce 0]

I don't think replacing him with Ice Cube is going to work, no matter even if Vin isn't that big of a star / box office draw - he's easily more marketable and has more appeal than fucking Ice Cube.

 

You gentlemen can keep your fanciful B-movie creations - I merely wish to see Vin in a big-budge remake of Gymkata!

[Lil' Bitch 0]

Ice Cube will replace Vin Diesel in the Revolution sequel to its action franchise XXX

 

God help us all...

 

Vin Diesel next stars in The Chronicles of Riddick, Universal's follow-up to Pitch Black

 

That movie kicked ass (if you like sci-fi) and I really dug his character. I don't mind a sequel to it, but my only problem with it is how is it going to work out since

Spoiler (Highlight to Read):

the theme of the movie was them trying to escape the planet since they were getting attacked by those aliens that came once a century or whatever and ate you when there was no light. They got off the planet so...I dunno

 

By the way, Cary Hirouki-Tagawa is too good for that...

 

Your brother's soul is mine! YOU will be next!

 

Oh, sorry.

[Damaramu 0]

I loved A Man Apart. It was different than his other movies. He didn't play the hard ass criminal who plays by his own rules. He was the hard ass cop that plays by his own rules. Ok not much difference but there was something that felt different from his usual work.

[cabbageboy 0]

Face it: Vin Diesel is crap. He's full of his own self importance in every movie I've seen him in, and has no sense of humor either. To be a good action hero requires more than just being a ripped musclehead. You have to also have:

 

1. Witty one liners.

 

2. A sense of humor.

 

3. Rapport with the main heels.

 

Now watch XXX. Diesel has NONE of this. His one liners were bad, he had no sense of humor at all, and no rapport whatsoever with the main heel.

 

Compare this to say Commando, a cheesy but entertaining Arnold movie. Arnold has all sorts of fun one liners, sense of humor, and good rapport with Bennett.

 

Also, I have to wonder why Vinnie would do a sequel to Pitch Black (a movie few people even saw) rather than a sequel to XXX (a movie that made about 140 million).