MrRant 0 Report post Posted October 14, 2003 For the second time in three weeks, a network NFL pregame show became the forum for some controversial remarks — and this time Rush Limbaugh had nothing to do with them. Tampa Bay Buccaneers defensive tackle Warren Sapp, unhappy that the NFL office had warned him against a repeat of his Monday night skip through the Indianapolis Colts' pregame stretching line, blasted the league and Washington Redskins linebacker LaVar Arrington in an interview that aired Sunday on CBS' "The NFL Today." "He got what he wanted," Sapp said of Arrington, who had threatened retaliation if the Bucs' outspoken nine-year veteran tried to do the same before Sunday's game against the Redskins. "He snitched and slave master come down. That's all that is. ... Stop a man from doing something that he's been doing for nine years? "And so now there's a rule against me. Thanks. I knew (the league) was gonna do what they did because they've been notoriously against Sapp. Like I said before, it's a slave system. Make no mistake about it, slave master say you can't do it, don't do it. They'll make an example out of you." Sapp also had a few choice words for the NFL officiating crews that now are being asked to police teams' pregame drills. "You gonna tell me these moonlighting officials are going to come out 45 minutes before the game and get a feel for the game?" he asked. "In pregame? I just want to know why people are moonlighting on another man's profession? Every other profession has full-time referees. That's all they do is ref games." Limbaugh resigned his commentator's job with ESPN two weeks ago because of the controversy over his remarks that Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb was overrated because the media wanted to see a black quarterback succeed. Sapp's comments on that also had racial overtones. "I'm shocked that Tom Jackson and Michael Irvin just sat there and let this roll across their faces and didn't say anything,'' he said. "Do we not have anybody that understands that there's way more scrubs in this game that are Anglos than there are black ones that are being pumped up?" CBS analysts Deion Sanders and Boomer Esiason both took issue with some of Sapp's comments Sunday. "I was right with Warren Sapp all the way except for the slave-master stuff," Sanders said. "Leave it alone. That's not an issue." Added Esiason: "I'm glad to hear that you said some of his comments were totally off-base. This is the NFL. We all play with rules. We all follow the rules. If he thinks he is singled out for whatever reason, I think he is incorrect." Sapp did make contact with an official while skipping onto the field before Sunday's game, but he avoided the Redskins' stretching line and Arrington. "I didn't need to run through their stretch," Sapp said after the Bucs' 35-13 win. "They've got a whole 53-man squad that we were coming after. That's what we were after, the game. It wasn't the pregame." ----------------------------------------------------------- Some people just need to shut up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarleyQuinn 0 Report post Posted October 14, 2003 I'm quickly tiring of Warren Sapp's talking shit. He should just shut up and be glad that those "slave masters" are the ones willing to pay him $8M, etc. per year. Also I'm really sick of Shockey acting like every catch he makes is something to get excited over. Unless ya score a TD(Last year he only scored 2 IIRC) then quit show boating till you have a real reason to. Getting a 1st down means jack shit unless ya get some damn points on the board. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sfaJack 0 Report post Posted October 14, 2003 (edited) Is there a more overrated player in the NFL than Warren Sapp? Seriously, besides his fat-assed touchdown dance, what has he ever actually done on the field to warrant the constant blowjobs and hype the media gives him? EDIT: spelling Edited October 14, 2003 by Bosstones Fan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted October 14, 2003 He used to get lotsa sacks when the bucs sucked before Rice and Brooks took over and did the real shit... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixrising 0 Report post Posted October 14, 2003 Yeah, I remember Sapp getting something like 14 or 15 sacks a few years ago. The problem with Sapp is that as his play declines (does he even have a sack this year? maybe one?) his mouth runs more than ever. I don't think he can stand not being in the media spotlight for very long. Hence running through warm-ups and the "slave masters" statement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
starvenger 0 Report post Posted October 14, 2003 No sympathy from me. If the roles between Arrington and Sapp are reversed, Sapp would be telling Arrington to "take it like a man" or something like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted October 14, 2003 "He got what he wanted," Sapp said of Arrington, who had threatened retaliation if the Bucs' outspoken nine-year veteran tried to do the same before Sunday's game against the Redskins. "He snitched and slave master come down. That's all that is. ... Stop a man from doing something that he's been doing for nine years? Sapp's done this for nine years? I only remember him doing it to Pittsburgh --- and they lost that game before the game in question. Heck, where the heck is John Gruden telling him to cut this crap out? "And so now there's a rule against me. Thanks. I knew (the league) was gonna do what they did because they've been notoriously against Sapp. Like I said before, it's a slave system. Make no mistake about it, slave master say you can't do it, don't do it. They'll make an example out of you." Hmm, making millions as a "slave"? Can I be a slave? PLEASE?! This is the same badass who threatened to beat up the Packers head coach, so maybe teams' reluctance to draft him weren't totally out of the question. What a frickin' idiot. Sapp also had a few choice words for the NFL officiating crews that now are being asked to police teams' pregame drills. "You gonna tell me these moonlighting officials are going to come out 45 minutes before the game and get a feel for the game?" he asked. "In pregame? I just want to know why people are moonlighting on another man's profession? Every other profession has full-time referees. That's all they do is ref games." And I suppose he'd be LESS of a dick to them? Hardly. Sapp had issues coming out of Miami and we now see just how wise some of the teams were to avoid him. He's a tubby sack of goo who has deteroirated at an alarming pace. Limbaugh resigned his commentator's job with ESPN two weeks ago because of the controversy over his remarks that Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb was overrated because the media wanted to see a black quarterback succeed. Sapp's comments on that also had racial overtones. "I'm shocked that Tom Jackson and Michael Irvin just sat there and let this roll across their faces and didn't say anything,'' he said. "Do we not have anybody that understands that there's way more scrubs in this game that are Anglos than there are black ones that are being pumped up?" Isn't it ironic that the most overrated defensive player in the league is bitching about this? Shocking --- except that it shows that in America, blacks can make "controversial" comments about race, but whites are forbidden from doing the same. If Sapp was white, he'd have been suspended for saying that. Sapp did make contact with an official while skipping onto the field before Sunday's game, but he avoided the Redskins' stretching line and Arrington. Heck, I'd suspend him for that. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nl5xsk1 0 Report post Posted October 14, 2003 I was going to be the one that said "if getting paid that much to work for half a year is being a slave, then chain me up now" but other people have beat me to it, so I'll just point out the second funniest thing about this ... Warren Sapp used the word "Anglos" in his spiel. When was the last fucking time you heard THAT used instead of just "whites"?!? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted October 14, 2003 Mike get the fuck out of here. If someone white had said it he wouldn't have been suspended and you know it. He will probably get fined out the ass, just like anyone else would, but when has a player ever gotten suspended for making stupid comments. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C Dubya 04 0 Report post Posted October 14, 2003 I think that if someone who is white made those comments, they would be suspended. Look at John Rocker. I know that what he said was a lot more offensive to a lot of people, but was it really that different? And MLB suspended him for a ton of games. Sapp is the best at keeping people aware that he's still around even though his game has completely disappeared. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted October 14, 2003 I half-agree with Ripper. I doubt a white player would be suspended (just fined), but he'd be much more villified in the media than Sapp was (a la Rocker). As for Sapp himself, he just naturally draws attention from the media with his mouth and actions, whether his play is good or not. Hell, that's true for sports in general (see: Dennis Rodman) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted October 14, 2003 I half-agree with Ripper. I doubt a white player would be suspended (just fined), but he'd be much more villified in the media than Sapp was (a la Rocker). As for Sapp himself, he just naturally draws attention from the media with his mouth and actions, whether his play is good or not. Hell, that's true for sports in general (see: Dennis Rodman) Lets not be confused here. Rocker was more villified because he insulted NEW YORK, not different races. New York...media central, and he had the nerve to insult its people. THAT is why the media jumped down his throat. If he said that shit about Seattle, he would have caught half the flack. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Ghost of bps21 0 Report post Posted October 14, 2003 Maybe my history is a little off... but I don't think slaves were paid millions of dollars to deteriorate in front of the whole world. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted October 14, 2003 Maybe my history is a little off... but I don't think slaves were paid millions of dollars to deteriorate in front of the whole world. I think they were in Tennessee. Maybe he means he is like Tennessee slaves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted October 14, 2003 "He snitched and slave master come down. That's all that is. ... Stop a man from doing something that he's been doing for nine years? Has Sapp been doing this all his career? I thought I heard a talking head say that he didn't do this while Dungy was coach. Warren, I defended you on that hit to the Packer Offensive Lineman, but not on this. Shut up... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted October 14, 2003 I half-agree with Ripper. I doubt a white player would be suspended (just fined), but he'd be much more villified in the media than Sapp was (a la Rocker). As for Sapp himself, he just naturally draws attention from the media with his mouth and actions, whether his play is good or not. Hell, that's true for sports in general (see: Dennis Rodman) Lets not be confused here. Rocker was more villified because he insulted NEW YORK, not different races. New York...media central, and he had the nerve to insult its people. THAT is why the media jumped down his throat. If he said that shit about Seattle, he would have caught half the flack. Again, I'll have to half-agree with you there. While I know that NYCers are defensive about their city (lost a month of my life there, abso-f'king-lutley hated it), it seemed like everything I heard in response, from radio hosts like Jim Rome (pious SOB for whom my hate could fill a whole 'nother thread) on down to street-interviews were pretty much saying "How dare he talk about bad Asian women drivers and unwed 20 y/o mothers with four kids like that!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BobbyWhioux Report post Posted October 14, 2003 "And so now there's a rule against me. Thanks. I knew (the league) was gonna do what they did because they've been notoriously against Sapp. BUAHAHAHAHAHAHAhAhAhAHAHAHAHAHAHA! BUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! BUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! *Has a heart attack and dies from the sheer MOUNTAIN of unintentional irony emanating from this statement by Sapp.* Now I know virtually every fan, myself included, falls into the lapse of believing "the other team always gets the calls, they always screw us over" now and then. But come the fuck on, Sapp. The league marketing machine is sucking off on your cock every damn year, and people like me who are sick of your Tyson-esque animal antics are furious at them for it. Whether it's cripplilng Jerry Rice, threatening Mike Sherman, or all the unnecessary roughness penalties that should've been called on you but weren't. Or bumping an official this past week. If they treated you equal to everyone else, let alone had an agenda against you, you'd have been busted for any of that stuff by now. If the league were against you, they'd have suspended your ass for life a long time ago, and you'd be hanging out with that guy from the Browns that got a penalty flag thrown at his eye and then roughed up the official (and is basically blackballed from the league). And the reason there's a rule against prancing like a damn fairy through other people's warm ups now is because they didn't NEED to make an official rule about it before, because everyone else has enough respect for other players and the game to not go around and "dis" people with juvenile inflammatory shit like that. Even my scrawny whimpy white ass was able to make it onto a school football team long enough to learn you don't DO that to the other team. But that's Sapp for you. Just like the hit on that packer lineman last year. Stuff that isn't technically illegal but is widely regarded as unnecessary, dirty, and classless. That's his forte. Sapp contributes nothing positive to the NFL or society in general. He should've been a blowjob, but unfortunately his parents had intercourse that night instead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted October 14, 2003 Mike get the fuck out of here. If someone white had said it he wouldn't have been suspended and you know it. He will probably get fined out the ass, just like anyone else would, but when has a player ever gotten suspended for making stupid comments. Let's remain in the same zip code as reality. If, say, John Lynch or Marc Bulger said what Sapp did (well, with the races offended being reversed), the NFL would have suspended them IMMEDIATELY simply to avoid the P.R shitstorm it would've caused. The country views it different when a non-white person says it. It's no fair, but that's the way the country is. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ant_7000 0 Report post Posted October 14, 2003 Oh come on, they would get fined and criticized by the media but not suspended. I don't remember Rocker getting supended for his commits, or Shockey's comments on Parcells. Sapp is a well known loud mouth and no one's not really shock about what he says anymore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted October 14, 2003 I don't know. It just sounds like more of the whiney "but black people can say what they want" bullshit. If white people had a group led by a guy that has figured out how to line his own pockets anytime something vaguely racist is said, it would get press to. Press does not necessarily equal more trouble. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted October 14, 2003 I think Rocker did get suspended over that or he got shipped to AAA. Shockey can basically do whatever he wants b/c he's a media darling on a New York team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted October 14, 2003 Oh come on, they would get fined and criticized by the media but not suspended. I don't remember Rocker getting supended for his commits, or Shockey's comments on Parcells. Sapp is a well known loud mouth and no one's not really shock about what he says anymore. I think they suspended Rocker a month...but then again, Bud Selig is a fucking moron. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted October 14, 2003 Well let's be honest here though. This is the perfect chance to compare two incidents that took place close together. People were calling for Rush's head over IMO lesser comments and then ESPN had the actual footage of the show altered to make him look even worse since Michael Irvin agreed with him. We also got Tom Jackson's retarded "can black people play QB" comment as well. Sapp said some pretty other there stuff that was much more racial IMO. Well duh of course the slave masters stuff is more racial. And while Boomer and Dieon, sp?, kind of half heartedly called him on I would have heard nothing about this story if I didn't come here. While you couldn't walk more than 5 ft. without tripping over the Rush story. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrRant 0 Report post Posted October 14, 2003 It was all over Foxsports.com . ESPN is just... biased. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ant_7000 0 Report post Posted October 14, 2003 Rush comments were planned and thought out for sake of being controversial, Sapp comments were just Sapp being Sapp spouting/ranting off at the mouth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BobbyWhioux Report post Posted October 14, 2003 Rush comments were planned and thought out for sake of being controversial, Sapp comments were just Sapp being Sapp spouting/ranting off at the mouth. That's just Rush being Rush, too. "Being themselves" isn't a mitigating circumstance. They're both rotund wastes of protoplasm who we as a nation would be better off without. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted October 14, 2003 Oh come on, they would get fined and criticized by the media but not suspended. I don't remember Rocker getting supended for his commits, or Shockey's comments on Parcells. Sapp is a well known loud mouth and no one's not really shock about what he says anymore. I think they suspended Rocker a month...but then again, Bud Selig is a fucking moron. I believe it was originally a month, but then got appealed down to 8-10 games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MentallyNormal Report post Posted October 14, 2003 Why won't they let him skip? Skipping can be a good way to warm up the legs,hips etc? What is the NFL embrassed by him skipping,thinking he makes the game less manly if he skips? I don't think he should of said all that slave master stuff. But I don't agree with them taking away his skipping!! Skip to my lou my darling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted October 14, 2003 1: Rush Limbagh is a bigger name that Warren Sapp and trancends sports. More people care about Rush's stupidity than Sapp's. 2: Rush Limbagh is a known racist, so saying racial things will set people off. Sapp is just now coming out of the closet. 3: Rush was there to give football analysis and instead decided to interject his opinions on the media pushing of black QB's. When asking Warren to say something that would require something longer than one sentence, you are asking for trouble. B 4: It took 2 days for the Limbaugh storm to start, so maybe there is a two day waiting period on stupid comments. 5: What the fuck is Sapp going to do? Resign from the NFL. Two different jobs two different reprecussions. 6: They are both overrated pieces of shit (rush's so called ability to argue his points and Warren being a so called good defensive lineman) who spout off at the mouth and are going to catch hell for it. 7: I have seen this alot of places. You just weren't looking if you didn't see it. 8: Rush's comments were in relation to a big controversy that the league went through for years and had out grown. His comments brought back into the spotlight a black eye on the sport. And as seen in the sports world recently, there are some idiots that ignore all the facts and say that he might have been on to something. Everyone will look at Warrens comments and know that it holds no validity, never has and he is incredibly stupid. 9: Rush Limbaugh got on his radio show, called the Dixie Chicks "Sadaams Angels", called for boycotting their music from radio stations, promoted a CD burning, and said "I pay to hear you sing, not to here you political views". The massive hypocracy just came back on him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted October 14, 2003 I don't know. It just sounds like more of the whiney "but black people can say what they want" bullshit. I tend to think that's the way it is a lot of the time. Personally I think the whole "who can say what" thing should be uniform, either everyone be open and not get punished (my preference), or everyone get punished equally (not my preference, but at least it'd be uniform) If white people had a group led by a guy that has figured out how to line his own pockets anytime something vaguely racist is said, it would get press to. Explain please. Press does not necessarily equal more trouble. Didn't the Matrix movies teach you anything? <g> Perception is bigger than reality. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites