Something I've noticed...

[bob_barron 0]

A feud we all knew Styles was gonna win

 

The fact remains that even though AJ won- D-Lo was heavily protected and was made to look very strong.

 

As for the tag team thing, well since, AMW are protected in the promotion (and bitch and complain when they have to job, and painfully average wrestlers, and, in Storm's case, just plain weird looking)

 

Yeah, I'm sure D-lo felt great about that.

Whats he doing now....teaming with Crash Holly and the Village Idiot?

 

I'm sure he's quite happy seeing how he is making more money then he would have in WWE.

 

As for HHH/HBK, it wqas the most well written feud of 2002

 

Yea- The feud was so well written that the crowd was just on fire throughout their 38 minute snoozefest at Armageddon. The feud started out okay but it just died at the end.

 

Name one match Jarrett had, in the WWE, where he wasnt carried, that was over ***

 

Fully Loaded 98 v. Val Venis

Summerslam 98 v. X-Pac

Fully Loaded 99 v. Edge

Summerslam 99 v. D-Lo Brown

 

There ya go- There's 4

[Guest Dave O'Neill, Journalist]

I seriously doubt you've ever watch the promotion and just base your opinions off of a few recaps.

 

Kazaa

 

You can hate Jarrett all you want but the man is a good worker.

 

But HHH is better, which SOME people just cant accept. I'll say it again, nothing ur precious Jarrett has done since 2001 has touched the ***** HHH and HBK got for Summerslam 2002

 

At least Jarrett is putting his own money into the product

 

It's not his money, its a bunch of money marks' cash

 

Raven IS NOT BEING BURIED. His feud has gotten the most airtime, the most hype and the most heat from the crowd. He's the #1 face in the company for God's sake

 

If he's the number 1 face in the company, then why isnt he feuding with Jarrett. I'm tempted to blame Hogan but i dont mind him feuding with Jarrett because the result isnt in question

[Guest The Real Nosferatu]

Add his matches versus Razor Ramon at RR and WM XI in 1995. Hall wasn't that good of a worker, so I'd count them.

[Guest Salacious Crumb]

 

I knew it!!! Kazaa hasn't even gotten to July with the available matches.

 

EDIT: HHH/HBK was nowhere near a ***** match.

[bob_barron 0]

But HHH is better, which SOME people just cant accept. I'll say it again, nothing ur precious Jarrett has done since 2001 has touched the ***** HHH and HBK got for Summerslam 2002

 

Where do you get the impression that I like Jeff Jarrett? I think he's a cancer in TNA and deserves to have his quad tear off.

 

But Jarrett IS better then Triple H in terms of ring work. One good match at Summerslam does not a better worker make.

 

 

It's not his money, its a bunch of money marks' cash

 

When the company began- who do you think was paying the bills? Panda

 

If he's the number 1 face in the company, then why isnt he feuding with Jarrett.

 

Because Jarrett is a face as well

[Guest The Real Nosferatu]

If he's the number 1 face in the company, then why isnt he feuding with Jarrett. I'm tempted to blame Hogan but i dont mind him feuding with Jarrett because the result isnt in question

It's called giving other people a chance to feud with Jarrett or whoever the champion is.

 

Raven/Jarrett program lasted from January-end of April, and still sorta kept going until when A.J won the title in the triple threat.

[Guest Dave O'Neill, Journalist]

Yeah, I'm sure D-lo felt great about that.

Whats he doing now....teaming with Crash Holly and the Village Idiot?

 

I'm sure he's quite happy seeing how he is making more money then he would have in WWE.

 

As for HHH/HBK, it wqas the most well written feud of 2002

 

Yea- The feud was so well written that the crowd was just on fire throughout their 38 minute snoozefest at Armageddon. The feud started out okay but it just died at the end.

 

Name one match Jarrett had, in the WWE, where he wasnt carried, that was over ***

 

Fully Loaded 98 v. Val Venis

Summerslam 98 v. X-Pac

Fully Loaded 99 v. Edge

Summerslam 99 v. D-Lo Brown

 

There ya go- There's 4

If i was a wrestler, I'd be happier with a steady job in the No1 company in NA than i would be teaming with two morons once a week in a barn in Nashville

 

As for your little list, just the Edge match in particular, is widely known Edge did all the work to impress VKM into justifing sticking the IC Belt on him

 

Hey...remember after that match, and they did the mini-angle with Austin that went nowhere that turned JJJ into the bitter fuck i hate today

[bob_barron 0]

If i was a wrestler, I'd be happier with a steady job in the No1 company in NA than i would be teaming with two morons once a week in a barn in Nashville

 

I don't know- I think the money that D-Lo is making is causing him to not mind so much.

 

As for your little list, just the Edge match in particular, is widely known Edge did all the work to impress VKM into justifing sticking the IC Belt on him

 

Watch the match- Edge did not carry Jarrett there. Edge wasn't even that good back then.

[Guest Salacious Crumb]

D'Lo's said repeatedly in interviews that he's happier in TNA than he was in the WWF. In fact he was planning to jump ship to WCW in 01 till they closed.

 

So don't put words in people's mouths.

[Guest Dave O'Neill, Journalist]

But HHH is better, which SOME people just cant accept. I'll say it again, nothing ur precious Jarrett has done since 2001 has touched the ***** HHH and HBK got for Summerslam 2002

 

Where do you get the impression that I like Jeff Jarrett? I think he's a cancer in TNA and deserves to have his quad tear off.

 

But Jarrett IS better then Triple H in terms of ring work. One good match at Summerslam does not a better worker make.

 

 

It's not his money, its a bunch of money marks' cash

 

When the company began- who do you think was paying the bills? Panda

 

If he's the number 1 face in the company, then why isnt he feuding with Jarrett.

 

Because Jarrett is a face as well

Where do you get the impression that I like Jeff Jarrett? I think he's a cancer in TNA and deserves to have his quad tear off.

 

 

But Jarrett IS better then Triple H in terms of ring work

 

Sure Jarrett carried fucking Goldberg to a watchable match at Unforgiven

[Guest The Real Nosferatu]

What did Dlo do to get that awful Lo' Down gimmick with Chaz and Tiger Ali Singh?

 

 

..Besides cripple Droz.

 

 

I guess that is the reason. LOL

[bob_barron 0]

Triple H v. Goldberg was not watchable at all. The match was boring with Goldberg not ready to work long matches and HHH not being able to do anything with him.

 

It also featured a horrible anti-climatic finish and was just dead throughout

[Guest Dave O'Neill, Journalist]

I don't know- I think the money that D-Lo is making is causing him to not mind so much.

 

I'd mind

 

Watch the match- Edge did not carry Jarrett there. Edge wasn't even that good back then.

 

From my own personal Hero, SK, here's a rant

 

 

- Opening match, Intercontinental title: Edge v. Jeff Jarrett. Feels

good to put Edge's name in that one first. Best reason to get WWF PPVs:

Debra only wears the really GOOD outfits there. Edge and JJ do a token

wrestling sequence while crowd chants for puppies. Edge gets a two

count off a rolling cradle and a sunset flip from the second rope.

Jarrett decides to walk, but gets back in before the ten-count. Jarrett

takes control as Lawler moves from the puppy jokes to the more untapped

territory of beaver jokes. *sigh*. Edge twists his knee and Jarrett

goes to work. Edge blocks the figure-four and gets two, but gets rammed

into the ringpost, allowing JJ a single-arm DDT. Jarrett gets a

sleeper, and Edge breaks, but gets flapjacked coming off the ropes for a

two count. Another sleeper from Jarrett, eventually reversed by Edge,

and he cradles for a two count. Sunset flip gets two. They collide in

the corner and Edge does Sting's HEADBUTT TO THE GROIN OF DOOM spot for

a double KO and a two count. Edge gets a leg lariat and a neckbreaker,

but misses something off the top. He recovers with a small package for

two. Tornado DDT coming out of the corner, but Jarrett tosses him out

of the ring when he goes for the spear. Lights out, and Gangrel attacks

Edge on the outside. Bloodbath fails, however, and we see Gangrel out

on the floor. Back in the ring and Edge rolls through a bodypress for

two. Edge reverses a sunset flip for two. Dropkick reversed into a

powerbomb for two. Spear, but Debra is on the apron. Edge knocks her

off by accident, Gangrel attacks, and Jarrett hits the forward russian

legsweep for the pin and his fifth IC title, which is of course a new

record. Time: 13:20. Hey, kids, Edge just carried his first match!

*** Jarrett gloats, only to get destroyed by Steve Austin, who is

royally pissed off.

 

Edge just carried his first match

[Guest Salacious Crumb]

Quoting SK isn't going to get you very far. Why not try using logic.

 

Your talking about a green Edge who had been working mostly in 6 man tags.

[bob_barron 0]

Considering how in WWF D-Lo was forced to wear a turban and work with Tiger Ali Singh I think he's happy with his current position in TNA.

 

That's great that SK thinks that- watch the match and form your own opinion next time

[Guest Dave O'Neill, Journalist]

He still carried the match, it says so right there

 

And, i mean jesus, when youre been carried by Edge (who fucking Eddie Guerrero had a hard time with, for god's sake), you may need to rethink the whole 1985 Memphis obsessed way JJ Wrestles

[Guest Salacious Crumb]

What is SK some gawd that knows everything about wrestling.

 

Geez pull your head out of the sand and stop letting some recapper form your opinion for you.

 

And actually watch whole shows of TNA before you start making your broad generalizations. It should tell you something when people like me who aren't fond of Jarrett constantly stick up for him.

[bob_barron 0]

He still carried the match, it says so right there

 

1) That's SK's viewpoint.

2) Have you seen the match yourself?

3) SK's admitted that he was fully loaded himself recapping 1999 PPVs.

 

And, i mean jesus, when youre been carried by Edge (who fucking Eddie Guerrero had a hard time with, for god's sake),

 

Yea- Edge and Eddy only had two MOTYC in the span of a week.

 

you may need to rethink the whole 1985 Memphis obsessed way JJ Wrestles

 

Is that because Memphis booking=money, heat and the other good things that you want to achieve in pro wrestling?

[Guest The Real Nosferatu]

Scott Keith thinks every canadian wrestler known to man disserves the world title in WWE. (I mean non-WWE guys, ANY Canadian he watches at house shows in Edmonton or wherever the hell he lives)

 

He only likes people when they have good matches.

 

 

2000: HHH is GOD!

 

2003: HHH Sucks.

 

Your quoting a Two-faced moron. Not the best thing to do.

[BoboBrazil 0]

I really don't give a fuck if Jarrett holds the title. For one without him there wouldn't be a TNA to talk about at all and secondly, there really isn't anyone more deserving of being a main eventer at the moment. There is Raven, but I have a feeling they are saving the Jarrett/Raven rematch until after Hogan gets done. The whole reason he stopped feuding with it is because the Mitchell feud took him off path to try and end him. Once he finishes the feud and finally gets revenge on Mitchell and takes him out I think we will get Raven/Jarrett again only this time with Raven as the face and Jarrett as the heel. This is when I think Raven will finally fulfill his destiny and become NWA champion.

[Guest MikeSC]

Damn straight, remember back in 2000, and the Iron Man, and at the same time, Jarrett was in the triple cage match, which blew (against DDP, whom its physically impossible to have a bad match with)

 

That cage match was awesome- Probably the best match WCW had in 2000.

 

You can hate Jarrett all you want but the man is a good worker.

The ME at Slamboree was okay?

 

Umm, if you think so.

 

Horrid match it was.

 

JJ is a mediocre worker. He's not BAD. He isn't GOOD. He's AVERAGE.

 

He surely is not somebody I'd have as a main eventer.

-=Mike

[Guest dvkorn]

I think the reason why more people HHHate that they do with Jarrett is because....

 

1. WWE is a much more widely known company... Therefore more fans etc.. you get what i am saying...

 

2. Half of the JArrett hate that is around (and in 1inch punch's case, all) is complete and utter bullshit.... it is just people making assumptions that Jarrett is doing this and that because he has power.... Jarrett was pinned by Julio Dinero because (now, i am assuming) he thought it would further build up the Jarrett/Raven feud... I think it did... Jarrrett getting pinned by one of Raven's gathering due to Raven...

 

When TNA started Jarrett was probably TNA's largest name.... And to not keep your biggest name strong is something that is just downright stupid... especially a company where Jarrett was basically the only name apart from Hall for a while and Shamrock...

 

And he still is one of the only names in the company... and they have built up Styles, Raven and made numerous other move up in the rankings... but to not keep Jarrett strong is still just plain stupid...

 

And whether people like it or not.... Jarrett is a good worker.... one of the best on the TNA roster.... while i think his memphis southern style is not for everyone... he is excellent at it...

 

Jarrett has had many awesome matches... I think i said this not long ago on here but his 1st title match Vs Killings was excellent and i don't think Killings carried that one did he.... I could probably come up with numerous other matches that have been excellent with Jarrett in it...

[bob_barron 0]

The ME at Slamboree wasn't okay.

 

It was awesome. I haven't seen the match in a while but it blew me away since I wasnt expecting much going in.

 

Jarrett, despite his numerous faults, is a good worker.

[Astro101 0]

Yea, Jarrett's a good worker. I guess if he wasn't I'd mind a bit more. But hey, he's a reason why AJ Styles, Christopher Daniels and all these other guys I enjoy watching are on my television set every Wednesday.

[tommytomlin 0]

Back to the Jarrett/Trips thing, I think it's pretty simple.

 

Jarrett is a face. Triple H is a heel. As a face, Jarrett is meant to WIN feuds. Triple H, as a heel, is meant to ultimately lose them. Name one feud Triple H has lost in the last three years (remember he's only been a face for 6 months since 2000).

 

The only problem I have with Jarrett is his occassional super-hero saves on TNA. I have no problem with the results of his feuds.

[Guest TheZsaszHorsemen]

Wow...Hogan/Rock was WORSE than HBK/HHH in storylines?

 

Hogan/Rock = Legend vs. verge of Legend status at the biggest show of the year.

 

 

HHH/HBK: HHH taking up a whole Raw looking for HBK's attacker, and revealing it to be himself. How fucking original.

Actually, I'd agree with 1inch here. The crowd going batshit for Hogan destroyed the "passing of the torch" thing. And Hogan tried to KILL ROCK WITH AN AMBULANCE.

 

HBK/HHH had a tremendous build, and one of the best moments of 2002 on RAW: When HBK ran down to the ring and started whipping ass, tell me you didn't cheer.

[Guest MikeSC]

Back to the Jarrett/Trips thing, I think it's pretty simple.

 

Jarrett is a face. Triple H is a heel. As a face, Jarrett is meant to WIN feuds. Triple H, as a heel, is meant to ultimately lose them. Name one feud Triple H has lost in the last three years (remember he's only been a face for 6 months since 2000).

 

The only problem I have with Jarrett is his occassional super-hero saves on TNA. I have no problem with the results of his feuds.

Who has HHH feuded with in the past 3 years? The only feud he SHOULD have lost, really, is Jericho and Angle --- and those were in 2000. Two bad ones --- but by and large, he is stuck in the ring with slugs.

 

I mean, you want him to job to Scott Steiner?

Kevin Nash?

Heck, much as I love Booker T, he isn't exactly a world-beater.

And RVD doesn't deserve it, much as many here hate to see it.

-=Mike

[bob_barron 0]

He should've done the job to Booker T.

 

When you book a feud called: White guy doesn't think black people are good enough

 

and the white man wins- that does nothing for nobody

[Guest MikeSC]

The ME at Slamboree wasn't okay.

 

It was awesome. I haven't seen the match in a while but it blew me away since I wasnt expecting much going in.

 

Jarrett, despite his numerous faults, is a good worker.

We'll have to disagree --- mightily --- on that match. The match was a jumbled mess. Just punch, kick, weapon shot set on a structure that just didn't lend itself to good work. The only memorable part of the match was Kanyon's bump --- and it wasn't that great, honestly. It was worse than any HITC outside of Bossman v UT (Kennel From Hell isn't the same thing --- is it?)

 

Heck, Arquette's presence as the defending champ --- and that he "let" JJ win --- really knocked the weak match that much farther down.

 

Expecting nothing doesn't really make a match good. If you expect a decent match --- which I did before seeing the tape --- it comes across as much less good than it was.

-=Mike

[Guest MikeSC]

He should've done the job to Booker T.

 

When you book a feud called: White guy doesn't think black people are good enough

 

and the white man wins- that does nothing for nobody

Seeing as Booker was sidelined within about 2 months with a back injury --- it's not a huge stretch to assume that some in the WWE were aware that the back was going to become a problem real soon.

 

And, much as I hate to say it, Booker doesn't exactly have a library of great matches to make me say "Hey, let's give HIM the gold"

-=Mike