Guest Dave O'Neill, Journalist Posted October 21, 2003 Report Posted October 21, 2003 Even the haters have to say that C+J beating up poor, useless Randy Orton to get the bounty was pretty funny. And Their Spike Dropkick is pretty cool
Guest Coffey Posted October 21, 2003 Report Posted October 21, 2003 I think the elevated double team dropkick licks balls. It's shit. It's not a credible finisher in my eyes.
Zack Malibu Posted October 21, 2003 Report Posted October 21, 2003 Personally, I don't mind them myself. I was a big fan of the Natural Born Thrillers in WCW and I'm interested in seeing where the WWEized version of the stable (which is precisely what the new Evolution or whatever it is will be with Orton, Maven, J&C). They're just REALLY bland, and people aren't going to get into them just because they're up against the big bad heels. You need a reason to care about people, and since WWE doesn't realize that, it results in these heatless matches we see. Having them go over on Orton last night would have been gold, but...well, you know exactly what kind of bitching is going to follow, so I'll stop here.
Tawren Posted October 21, 2003 Report Posted October 21, 2003 Why do I have to admit anything? The stealing money was a cool idea, but blowing it off in minutes just to feed HHH wasn't good. And their dropkick sucks ass. OMG A DROPKICK~! Whatever.
Guest Dave O'Neill, Journalist Posted October 21, 2003 Report Posted October 21, 2003 Wer'e back to the "Push New People....No, Not Them" Argument Fuck sake.
Guest FrigidSoul Posted October 21, 2003 Report Posted October 21, 2003 Personally, I don't mind them myself. I was a big fan of the Natural Born Thrillers in WCW and I'm interested in seeing where the WWEized version of the stable (which is precisely what the new Evolution or whatever it is will be with Orton, Maven, J&C). They're just REALLY bland, and people aren't going to get into them just because they're up against the big bad heels. You need a reason to care about people, and since WWE doesn't realize that, it results in these heatless matches we see. Having them go over on Orton last night would have been gold, but...well, you know exactly what kind of bitching is going to follow, so I'll stop here. If that's what Evolution becomes then they best damn grab Mike Sanders and have him join because none of those people have any mic skills...and in a day and age where promos are king I would hate having to hear that group cut a promo
Zack Malibu Posted October 21, 2003 Report Posted October 21, 2003 BTW, having missed RAW last night and not watching the tape yet, what's with the "Jyndrak" spelling. Did WWE actually alter his last name, or is it a rip on how everything "i" became "y"?
Guest Dave O'Neill, Journalist Posted October 21, 2003 Report Posted October 21, 2003 Zack, I think the just changed it, its the WWE, no explaination needed. Plunderin, Cade can, ALLEGEDLY (according to my OVW watching friend) cut a coherent promo. But Mike Sanders would be an excellent pick-up
Tawren Posted October 21, 2003 Report Posted October 21, 2003 On a side note, one thing I hate is the name Garrison. GARRISON. GARRISON. What the fuck kind of a name is Garrison? "What a cute baby boy. What should we name him?" "Jeff...Rob...Lance...Matt...I know. Garrison!" Weird.
Guest Dave O'Neill, Journalist Posted October 21, 2003 Report Posted October 21, 2003 Blame Gerwitz, its some comic book reference that only him and Shane Helms get
Guest FrigidSoul Posted October 21, 2003 Report Posted October 21, 2003 On a side note, one thing I hate is the name Garrison. GARRISON. GARRISON. What the fuck kind of a name is Garrison? "What a cute baby boy. What should we name him?" "Jeff...Rob...Lance...Matt...I know. Garrison!" Weird. Garrison isn't his real first name, its Lance Vince decided the best way to debut him was by giving him a stupid haircut and an even stupider name
Youth N Asia Posted October 21, 2003 Report Posted October 21, 2003 I like these two for the most part. Mainly I'm tricking myself into thinking that they'll keep guys like this and drop dead weight like Henry and Show sooner or later...but that's a pipe dream
EdwardKnoxII Posted October 21, 2003 Report Posted October 21, 2003 Blame Gerwitz, its some comic book reference that only him and Shane Helms get Yeah it's based on Garrison Kane, he was the second person to go by the name of Weapon X and before that he was a member of the team Six Pack with Cable.
Tawren Posted October 21, 2003 Report Posted October 21, 2003 On a side note, one thing I hate is the name Garrison. GARRISON. GARRISON. What the fuck kind of a name is Garrison? "What a cute baby boy. What should we name him?" "Jeff...Rob...Lance...Matt...I know. Garrison!" Weird. Garrison isn't his real first name, its Lance Vince decided the best way to debut him was by giving him a stupid haircut and an even stupider name I know, that's why I said that. Why change a perfectly good Lance to Garrison? Damn stupid-ass writers.
Guest Dave O'Neill, Journalist Posted October 21, 2003 Report Posted October 21, 2003 The Words Dear And God spring to mind
Guest jpclemmons Posted October 21, 2003 Report Posted October 21, 2003 those two really need a manager or a gimmick to get them over. just looking like two vanilla OVW guys ain't gonna work.
Guest Dave O'Neill, Journalist Posted October 21, 2003 Report Posted October 21, 2003 HHH put them over on Raw. Did you not see the ten seconds of TV he was in the same shot as them, thats his idea of putting someone over.
Guest FrigidSoul Posted October 21, 2003 Report Posted October 21, 2003 On a side note, one thing I hate is the name Garrison. GARRISON. GARRISON. What the fuck kind of a name is Garrison? "What a cute baby boy. What should we name him?" "Jeff...Rob...Lance...Matt...I know. Garrison!" Weird. Garrison isn't his real first name, its Lance Vince decided the best way to debut him was by giving him a stupid haircut and an even stupider name I know, that's why I said that. Why change a perfectly good Lance to Garrison? Damn stupid-ass writers. Unless you're extremely over in another promotion before coming to the WWE then you can't have the same first name as somebody else on the roster. Look at regal...they made him a William because of Austin
The Czech Republic Posted October 21, 2003 Report Posted October 21, 2003 On a side note, one thing I hate is the name Garrison. GARRISON. GARRISON. What the fuck kind of a name is Garrison? "What a cute baby boy. What should we name him?" "Jeff...Rob...Lance...Matt...I know. Garrison!" Weird. Garrison isn't his real first name, its Lance Vince decided the best way to debut him was by giving him a stupid haircut and an even stupider name I know, that's why I said that. Why change a perfectly good Lance to Garrison? Damn stupid-ass writers. Unless you're extremely over in another promotion before coming to the WWE then you can't have the same first name as somebody else on the roster. Look at regal...they made him a William because of Austin And Shane Helms a Gregory!
Guest FrigidSoul Posted October 21, 2003 Report Posted October 21, 2003 And Shane Helms a Gregory! I know somebody who actually talks to him on a regular basis. I had her tell him that name is stupid (to which he agreed, although he said he loves the gimmik of Hurricane) and then I had her ask why he no longer uses the Vertabreaker as it made me mark out everytime...he said it was due to legit injuring 70% of the people he used it on
Highland Posted October 21, 2003 Report Posted October 21, 2003 I notice that alot of OVW watchers say the talent is very good, but for some reason when they're called up, they're put into boring gimmicks, or simply buckle under the new pressure. Thoughts?
razazteca Posted October 21, 2003 Report Posted October 21, 2003 Wer'e back to the "Push New People....No, Not Them" Argument Fuck sake. Where is Golddust, Nowinski, Hurricane? Jindrak & Cade > Orton & Batista Also Cade is related to HBK somehow!
The Czech Republic Posted October 21, 2003 Report Posted October 21, 2003 I think it would have been funny to apply this renaming again for "Tom Goldberg" so as not to take heat off Bill DeMott.
Highland Posted October 21, 2003 Report Posted October 21, 2003 Yeah, I used to cringe everytime I saw him use the Vertabreaker; one slip and he'd break the guy's neck or worse. WWE was smart in this case on banning the move.
Guest Dave O'Neill, Journalist Posted October 21, 2003 Report Posted October 21, 2003 Where is Golddust, Nowinski, Hurricane? Injured, Injured and on the shitlist for punking Rodney Mack
Guest FrigidSoul Posted October 21, 2003 Report Posted October 21, 2003 Yeah, I used to cringe everytime I saw him use the Vertabreaker; one slip and he'd break the guy's neck or worse. WWE was smart in this case on banning the move. That's why I would mark-out for it. The move looked damn destructive
Guest Dave O'Neill, Journalist Posted October 21, 2003 Report Posted October 21, 2003 He's done it once or twice....and each time the the crowd has gone bonkos
Vyce Posted October 21, 2003 Report Posted October 21, 2003 Blame Gerwitz, its some comic book reference that only him and Shane Helms get Yeah it's based on Garrison Kane, he was the second person to go by the name of Weapon X and before that he was a member of the team Six Pack with Cable. The sad thing is, I'm sure you're right about that. Oh, and while I'm no big fan of Jindrack & Cade, I must also agree: Jindrack & Cade > Orton & Batista.
Guest Zeduck Posted October 22, 2003 Report Posted October 22, 2003 I think the elevated double team dropkick licks balls. It's shit. It's not a credible finisher in my eyes. I agree on that. They should have Jindrak dropkick the person into a Cade Powerbomb or something.
Guest JMA Posted October 22, 2003 Report Posted October 22, 2003 Jindrak and Cade > Maven Seriously, if Maven joins the Orton led Evolution it will bomb. Maven needs to be less bland and get a better name. It wouldn't be as bad if he went by Maven Huffman instead of just Maven.
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