Korn/Limp Bizkit club tour

[converge241 0]

a big deal for 2 bands to be playing the small venues together

 

i somehow got through for the Worcester MA Palladium on 11/25/03

 

im not even gonna go this is a fortune in aftersale

 

the last two times bands did this

 

linkin park reight before meteora came out and bizkit before hot dog came out

you could scalp these for hundreds of dollars..it would be nice to see the show becuse of the small venue but im too old to give up the large $$$ to go

[haVoc 0]

Gee, I wonder why their doing a smaller tour?

[rising up out of the back seat-nuh 0]

I give it five years before they're playing weddings and retirement parties.

[King Kamala 0]

Wow! As little as two years ago these two could have sold out MSG together. Now they can't even sell out a club. *Points and laughs at Fred Durst and Jonathan Davis*....too bad crap nowadays get's replaced by even more crap.

[Red Baron 0]

and so the theory lives on.

 

Pop will eat itself up.

[haVoc 0]

Was that suppose to be pop or poop?

[Use Your Illusion 0]

I give it five years before they're playing weddings and retirement parties.

FIVE YEARS? Wow, you're generous.

 

12 months, tops.

 

UYI

[Guest Doyo]

I find it hilarious that Poison, Def Leppard and Bon Jovi are all still touring arenas, while

every big trend that was suppose to replace "hair metal" has come and faded away.

[Henry Spencer 0]

Hair metal plays well in arenas. It's party music for big groups of people. That has something to do with it.

[Guest Agent of Oblivion]

The smaller venues just means it's easier to hit Fred Durst with a shoe, or a lighter.

[haVoc 0]

I find it hilarious that Poison, Def Leppard and Bon Jovi are all still touring arenas, while

every big trend that was suppose to replace "hair metal" has come and faded away.

Bon Jovi for sure. But doesn't bands like Def Leppard and Poison have to go out with like 4 or 5 other bands on the bill to sell out arenas?

[Guest Plushy Al Logan]

The smaller venues just means it's easier to hit Fred Durst with a shoe, or a lighter.

Where can I get a ticket? I'm going to hit him with a can of Aquanet hairspray. Now all I have to do is just wait for Avril to start touring smaller venues.

[1234-5678 0]

I'd go see em just because concerts are fun.

[Guest Choken One]

When U2 did Clubs...It was "going back to the roots"...

 

Limpbizkitkorn does it and it's because they suck...

 

well they do but im just saying

[Guest Doyo]

I find it hilarious that Poison, Def Leppard and Bon Jovi are all still touring arenas, while

every big trend that was suppose to replace "hair metal" has come and faded away.

Bon Jovi for sure. But doesn't bands like Def Leppard and Poison have to go out with like 4 or 5 other bands on the bill to sell out arenas?

Def Leppard toured arenas in America this last summer with one opening act, who was some

solo artist I never heard of. Poison toured with Vince Neil and Skid Row. Def Leppard had

12-15 hit songs and Poison had around 8, so that helps them still be able to pull it off. In

comparison, bands like Quiet Riot and Slaughter only had 2-3 hits, so that is part of the reason

they can only play in bars, which looks like the fate of 99.9% of the new bands the record

companies keep throwing at us.

[converge241 0]

"Gee, I wonder why their doing a smaller tour? "

 

becuase big bands play clubs sometimes when their new albums are coming out to make it more special for the few who attend?

 

tons of bands have done it when they could be selling out arenas

 

NIN, U2, Aerosmith, Linkin Park, Limp Bizkit (twice), Blink 182, 50 cent, perfect Circle, metallica, audioslave, and staind are just a few of the bands who have done it when they were selling out arenas or could be playing arenas..even the rolling stones did a similar thing last tour they played small theaters in between playing stadiums and arenas..its called an "intimate" show

 

 

"Wow! As little as two years ago these two could have sold out MSG together. Now they can't even sell out a club. "

 

the club did sell out..that was the hole point..they could be playing bigger places they are just doing this tour as a special event

 

dont let the fact that you may like them or not lead anyone to make false/ignorant statements concerning their popularity because they could easily move the show a street over to a place like the centrum and sell that out too..both bands headlined arenas on their last tours and also were second on stadium shows (both with metallica) that were package shows in the past few years

 

LB couldnt headline their own tour right now and sell out arenas because thier popularity has waned but Korn still could and them together of course would as well

 

as far as the 80's rock/hair metal the package tours do pretty well. the def leppard tour this past year hit a smaller facility in the NE area at least and besides all the hair metal even the older stuff usually packages together to sell more tickets (the reo speedwagons and journeys and the like).. this past years poison tour was the worst sales theyve ever had for it becuase they are getting lax with their opeining acts.. the first couple years it was always 4 "solid" popular bands from the hair metal period then they started with enuff znuff and what not..then this year only 3 and it was a fake Skid Row and the motley crue coverband starring vince neil

[Nevermortal 0]

I find it funny that the tour is being called "Back 2 Basics", yet all the tickets are 35 bucks a pop.

[Guest Doyo]

NIN, U2, Aerosmith, Linkin Park, Limp Bizkit (twice), Blink 182, 50 cent, perfect Circle, metallica, audioslave, and staind are just a few of the bands who have done it when they were selling out arenas or could be playing arenas..even the rolling stones did a similar thing last tour they played small theaters in between playing stadiums and arenas..its called an "intimate" show

A few shows here and there is different than a full tour. This is the only tour on the

schedule for the release of Korn and Limp Bizkit's new albums.

 

This is simply a sign of their promoters being too scared to book them for arenas, especially

in the colder months when it is harder to draw. Korn's last arena tour didn't draw good

compared to past ones. The writing is on the wall, neither band is the "in" thing anymore

so the casual fans aren't going to go to their shows.

 

Limp Bizkit's new album is falling fast on the charts. Amazon.com preorders have Korn's

new one at a sales rank of 371. Yeah, the album doesn't come out until Nov. 25, but here

are some rankings for other albums coming out on that date:

68 No Doubt hits

107 Madonna remixed

119 Lord of the Rings Return soundtrack

306 Nelly Furtado

335 No Doubt box set

342 Puddle of Mudd

390 Counting Crows

 

So we got 5 albums and a $45 box set from that date alone that have been ordered more. Korn is near the level

of Counting Crows, who are far from a band that packs arenas night after night.

Edited November 9, 2003 by Doyo

[haVoc 0]

No Doubt has a box set and a CD coming out on the same day?

 

Also, maybe I been living under a rock, but since when has Perfect Circle become some big band who can tour arena's?

[King Kamala 0]

Also, maybe I been living under a rock, but since when has Perfect Circle become some big band who can tour arena's?

I really don't know- they're coming to my town this month and originally it was supposed to be at a 1500 seat theater but got bumped up to the 8000 seat hockey arena. Maybe tickets are selling so well that they're getting bumped up to arenas. I don't get why 311 is headlining areans but at least they have been around for a few years and have a name opening act (Alien Ant Farm....*shudders*) unlike Perfect Circle.

[Cartman 0]

I would also like to point out that this show sold out in 3 minutes.

[justsoyouknow 0]

 

Also, maybe I been living under a rock, but since when has Perfect Circle become some big band who can tour arena's?

I really don't know- they're coming to my town this month and originally it was supposed to be at a 1500 seat theater but got bumped up to the 8000 seat hockey arena. Maybe tickets are selling so well that they're getting bumped up to arenas. I don't get why 311 is headlining areans but at least they have been around for a few years and have a name opening act (Alien Ant Farm....*shudders*) unlike Perfect Circle.

Most likely, it has a lot to do with that APC has a large following due to Tool, so all of the Tool fans pack the arenas. Have you ever been to a Tool concert? That shit is absolutely insane. A Perfect Circle has it "perfect" (no pun intended), seeing as how they draw in an audience that actually likes their new material and an audience that's coming solely based on the fact that it's Maynard.

[converge241 0]

"A few shows here and there is different than a full tour. This is the only tour on the

schedule for the release of Korn and Limp Bizkit's new albums.

 

This is simply a sign of their promoters being too scared to book them for arenas, especially

in the colder months when it is harder to draw. Korn's last arena tour didn't draw good

compared to past ones. The writing is on the wall, neither band is the "in" thing anymore

so the casual fans aren't going to go to their shows.

 

Limp Bizkit's new album is falling fast on the charts. Amazon.com preorders have Korn's

new one at a sales rank of 371. Yeah, the album doesn't come out until Nov. 25, but here

are some rankings for other albums coming out on that date:

68 No Doubt hits

107 Madonna remixed

119 Lord of the Rings Return soundtrack

306 Nelly Furtado

335 No Doubt box set

342 Puddle of Mudd

390 Counting Crows

 

So we got 5 albums and a $45 box set from that date alone that have been ordered more. Korn is near the level

of Counting Crows, who are far from a band that packs arenas night after night. "

 

korn's last headlining tour was with disturbed and trust company and regularly sold out 14,000 to 16,000 seat arenas and amphitheaters, which is what they were drawing on the issues and follow the leader tours

 

those examples i gave were full tours so, by the statement about the difference between a few shows here and there and a full tour, you dont seem to know what you are talking about and are just spouting what you fell becuase you dont like either band

 

even besides that this tour is only 8 shows..and the next korn tour at least isnt scheduled until march after they do xmas shows and head to japan and austrailia

which shows even more that you were making that statement without any knowledge about it as well

 

thats fine if you dont like them im not arguing their merit but dont try to BS your way through the discussion

 

sure the album bombed..and?

 

bands have new albums that bomb all the time or drop like a rock and can still do arena tours..look at pearl jam

 

the reason is because there are many many fans who couldnt see them before when they were hotter becuase it was too hard to get tickets..pearl jam plays 2-3 sold out shows back to back and the new albums come and go

 

the facts are they could be playing bigger places, and the next leg of touring after these shows will be in arenas..these are intimate shows made to reward the few who can get tickets with a special experience..and all those bands i gave examples of have done it at one time or another

 

if you dont agree with that just say "no it isnt" like the child that these statements seem to convey as opposed to putting out some agenda-driven drivel or just say what you really feel "they suck"

 

see i can seperatre my opinions of who i like and dont from the facts