A few more questions!

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1) Why did Shawn Michaels face Rick Martel at Summerslam 92? They were both heels...was someone injured and the match had to be changed, or was it always booked like that?

 

2) Who played the Damian Demento character, and what was Demento's finisher?

 

3) Anyone see Summerslam 89 live when Mean Gene dropped the F-bomb?

 

4) Wasn't the original main event of KOTR 97 supposed to be Bret vs. Shawn with the HF handcuffed at ringside? What injuries did Bret and Shawn have at the time?

 

5) How many King of the Ring's were not aired on PPV and is there any way to get them on tape? Does anyone know the results of these shows?

 

6) Mr. Perfect returned to referee at WM10 and start a feud (seemingly) with Luger...what happened?

 

Gracias.

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King of the Ring was a house show from around late 80's to early 90s. Some of the early Kings were Randy Savage, Harley Race, Jim Duggan, Haku.

[Guest drdrainoscott]

From what I remember:

 

1. They were fueding over Sherri Martel and to see who was the sexier of the two. I think it was trying to set up a Martel face turn, but he was gone soon after I believe.

 

4. That was the originial main event. Bret was still recovering from he knee surgery and KOTR was supposed to be his first match back, however he agrevated the knee in the backstage brawl with Michaels before Raw, and therefore the match was scrapped.

 

6. I think Perfect inacted the Loyds of London Insurance around that time and therefore wasn't able to be an active wrestler.

 

 

Please correct me if this stuff is wrong.

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2) Who played the Damian Demento character, and what was Demento's finisher?

That's funny, I was looking up this guy just the other day. His real name is Philip Theis, and he never worked under a different gimmick in the big time. His finisher was the Big Kneedrop, according to ObsessedWithWrestling. I loved his hometown though...

 

..."From the Outer Reaches of Your Mind"!

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2) Who played the Damian Demento character, and what was Demento's finisher?

That's funny, I was looking up this guy just the other day. His real name is Philip Theis, and he never worked under a different gimmick in the big time. I loved his hometown though...

 

..."From the Outer Reaches of Your Mind"!

I do remember hearing of him wrestle in indies around the same time under the name of "Mondo Kahn" or something like that

 

Would make more sense given his outfit

[JoeDirt 0]

Man, watch the 93 Rumble to see some Wrestlecrappers...Demento, Repo Man, Max Moon, and so many more.

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1) Why did Shawn Michaels face Rick Martel at Summerslam 92? They were both heels...was someone injured and the match had to be changed, or was it always booked like that?

 

5) How many King of the Ring's were not aired on PPV and is there any way to get them on tape? Does anyone know the results of these shows?

1. Well, HBK was the logical top contender to get the IC title shot at Summer Slam. However, since the PPV was set for Wembley and the match between Bret and Davey was made - you could look at Martel vs. HBK as an unofficial #1 contenders match.

 

It initially came about due to Michaels coming ringside during a match between Martel and Bret, as Bret was caught in the Boston Crab, and pounding away at the Hitman - thus getting Martel DQ'ed (Michaels wanted Bret to keep the belt so he could win it from him). All the other stuff with Sherri eventually came out of that incident.

 

5. The KOTR started in 1985. It was an annual event, held in Foxboro, MA and Providence, RI, with Don Muraco (85), Harley Race (86), Randy Savage (87), Ted Dibiase (88), Tito Santana (89), and Bret Hart (91) coming out with the victories. Race was the only one that actually used it as a gimmick - which later went to Haku, Duggan, and Savage. The King's Crown was otherwise unrelated to the KOTR event.

 

The 1991 event was taped by a fan in attendance. Might be able to find it on a tape trading site.

 

Here are the results:

 

King of the Ring '85 - Foxboro, MA - July 8, 1985

Opening Round:

Don Muraco defeated the Junkyard Dog

Les Thornton defeated Steve Lombardi

Paul Orndorff fought Bob Orton Jr. to a draw

Pedro Morales defeated Johnny V

WWF IC Champion Tito Santana defeated Terry Funk

Jim Brunzell defeated the Spoiler

Ricky Steamboat defeated Greg Valentine

The Iron Sheik defeated B. Brian Blair

Quarter Finals:

Don Muraco defeated Les Thornton

WWF IC Champion Tito Santana fought Jim Brunzell to a draw; Brunzell won a coin toss to continue

The Iron Sheik defeated Ricky Steamboat

Semi-Finals:

Don Muraco defeated Pedro Morales

The Iron Sheik defeated Jim Brunzell

Finals: Don Muraco defeated the Iron Sheik

Non-tournament match: WWF World Champion Hulk Hogan defeated Nikolai Volkoff

 

King of the Ring '86 - Foxboro, MA - July 14, 1986

Opening Round:

Billy Jack Haynes defeated the Iron Sheik

Harley Race defeated George Steele

Don Muraco fought Roddy Piper to a draw

Nikolai Volkoff defeated Dan Spivey

The Junkyard Dog defeated Paul Orndorff

Pedro Morales defeated Rudy Diamond

Quarter Finals:

Billy Jack Haynes defeated Mr. X

Nikolai Volkoff defeated the Junkyard Dog

Pedro Morales defeated Mike Rotundo

Semi Finals:

Harley Race defeated Billy Jack Haynes

Pedro Morales defeated Nikolai Volkoff

Finals: Harley Race defeated Pedro Morales

Non-tournament match: WWF Tag Team Champions Davey Boy Smith & the Dynamite Kid vs. Greg Valentine & Brutus Beefcake (steel cage)

 

King of the Ring '87 - Providence, RI - Civic Center - September 4, 1987

Opening Round:

Randy Savage defeated Nikolai Volkoff

Jim Brunzell defeated Ron Bass

Danny Davis defeated Tito Santana

The Junkyard Dog defeated Tama

Brutus Beefcake defeated Haku

Rick Martel defeated Dan Spivey

SD Jones defeated Sika

King Kong Bundy defeated the One Man Gang

Quarter Finals:

Randy Savage defeated Jim Brunzell

Danny Davis defeated the Junkyard Dog

Haku fought Rick Martel to a draw

King Kong Bundy defeated SD Jones

Semi Finals:

Randy Savage defeated Danny Davis

Finals: Randy Savage defeated King Kong Bundy

 

King of the Ring '88 - Providence, RI - Civic Center - October 16, 1988

Opening Round:

Ted Dibiase defeated Brutus Beefcake

Ken Patera defeated Nikolai Volkoff

Ron Bass defeated the Barbarian

Shawn Michaels defeated Danny Davis

Hercules fought Bad News Brown to a draw

WWF World Champion Randy Savage defeated Virgil

Iron Mike Sharpe defeated Boris Zhukov

The Red Rooster defeated Marty Jannetty

Quarter Finals:

Ted Dibiase defeated Ken Patera

Ron Bass defeated Shawn Michaels

The Red Rooster defeated Iron Mike Sharpe

Semi Finals:

Ted Dibiase defeated Ron Bass

WWF World Champion Randy Savage defeated the Red Rooster

Finals: Ted Dibiase defeated WWF World Champion Randy Savage via count-out

 

King of the Ring '89 - Providence, RI - Civic Center - October 14, 1989

Opening Round:

Akeem defeated Brutus Beefcake

Hercules fought Jim Neidhart to a draw

The Warlord defeated Bushwhacker Butch

Tito Santana defeated Bad News Brown

Rick Martel defeated Bill Woods

Bushwhacker Luke defeated Nikolai Volkoff

Jimmy Snuka defeated the Barbarian

Haku defeated the Red Rooster

Quarter Finals:

Tito Santana defeated the Warlord

Rick Martel defeated the Bushwhacker Luke

Jimmy Snuka defeated Haku

Semi Finals:

Tito Santana defeated Akeem

Rick Martel defeated Jimmy Snuka

Finals: Tito Santana defeated Rick Martel

 

King of the Ring '91 - Providence, RI - Civic Center - September 7, 1991

Opening Round:

Jerry Saggs defeated WWF Tag Team Champion Road Warrior Hawk via disqualification at 3:02 when Hawk intercepted Jimmy Hart's megaphone and used it on his opponent

Ricky Steamboat fought Ted Dibiase to a 15-minute time limit draw

Jim Duggan pinned Brian Knobbs at 5:04

IRS defeated the Bezerker via count-out at 2:51 when Bezerker rolled IRS back into the ring after a ringside brawl

WWF IC Champion Bret Hart defeated Pete Doherty (sub. for Kerry Von Erich) via submission with the Sharpshooter at the 33 second mark

Skinner pinned Million $ Champion Virgil with a reverse DDT at 5:02

Sid Justice pinned the Warlord with the powerbomb at 3:23

The Undertaker pinned WWF Tag Team Champion Road Warrior Animal at 3:40 after hitting him with the urn

Non-tournament match: The Beverly Brothers defeated the Bushwhackers at 7:23

Quarter Finals:

IRS pinned Jim Duggan at 3:16 with his feet on the ropes

WWF IC Champion Bret Hart defeated Skinner via submission with the Sharpshooter at 4:47

The Undertaker fought Sid Justice to a double disqualification at 4:08 after both men assaulted the referee; after the bout, Jake Roberts interfered and helped the Undertaker in double-teaming Justice

Semi Finals: IRS pinned Jerry Saggs with a roll up at 1:22

Finals: WWF IC Champion Bret Hart pinned IRS with a roll up at the 10 minute mark

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WWF IC Champion Bret Hart defeated Pete Doherty (sub. for Kerry Von Erich) via submission with the Sharpshooter at the 33 second mark

Oh man, I didn't even know The Duke was still around in 1991. Anyone see where he ALMOST won a bunkhouse battle royal at the Boston Garden? It's on CV's Even More Unusual Matches.

[cawthon777 0]

Yeah, I have it. The match was taped on 1/3/87. They were having quite a few bunkhouse battle royals at the time - but that's the only one I know of that ended up on tape.

[JoeDirt 0]

You guys rock at answering questions...okay, okay, I've got more...

 

1) Why did the Steiners leave the WWF so quickly?

 

2) Why didn't Owen/Yoko defend the tag team titles at Summerslam 95?

 

3) Why did WCW think that bringing in Fred Ottman would be a good idea?

 

4) Is GAB 91 really that bad?

 

5) Why did the WWE never do the "Ultimate Survivor" thing they did at Survivor Series 90 again?

 

6) What's the best Saturday Night Main Event ever?

 

7) What happened to Jerry Lawler's statutory rape charge that kept him out or Survivor Series 93?

 

8) Anybody remember a guy named "Frog" with green hair who wrestled on WCW worldwide and once or twice on Nitro? Anybody know who he is?

 

That should keep you busy for a few minutes at least.

Edited November 16, 2003 by JoeDirt

[Downhome 0]

2) Who played the Damian Demento character, and what was Demento's finisher?

That's funny, I was looking up this guy just the other day. His real name is Philip Theis, and he never worked under a different gimmick in the big time. I loved his hometown though...

 

..."From the Outer Reaches of Your Mind"!

I do remember hearing of him wrestle in indies around the same time under the name of "Mondo Kahn" or something like that

 

Would make more sense given his outfit

That's true, which is why I said "never worked under a different gimmick in the big time".

[cawthon777 0]

1) Why did the Steiners leave the WWF so quickly?

 

2) Why didn't Owen/Yoko defend the tag team titles at Summerslam 95?

 

3) Why did WCW think that bringing in Fred Ottman would be a good idea?

 

4) Is GAB 91 really that bad?

 

5) Why did the WWE never do the "Ultimate Survivor" thing they did at Survivor Series 90 again?

 

6) What's the best Saturday Night Main Event ever?

 

7) What happened to Jerry Lawler's statutory rape charge that kept him out or Survivor Series 93?

1. Mostly due to low pay and the WWF not letting them work New Japan dates might have figured into it as well. Vince and Scotty weren't too fond of one another at the time, though I don't recall the reasons.

 

2. You got me. I always wondered that myself.

 

3. I'm sure it had something to do with Dusty Rhodes since the two are related.

 

4. ...Yes. Flair's being fired overshadowed the entire card and the crowd showed their displeasure throughout the evening my chanting "We want Flair!" Though I've only seen it once years ago, the match quality is poor to the point where the only passable contests are Sting / Koloff and Luger / Windham.

 

5. Maybe they weren't that pleased with the first outing.

 

6. I personally haven't seen enough of them to make an informed decision.

 

7. The charges were dropped. The girl made it up and jokingly said it to her jealous boyfriend, upset that she spent too much time at the Mid-South Coliseum watching matches. The boyfriend went to the cops and everything else came from that. Of course, that info comes via PWI so there might be a bit more to it than that. Lawler was taken off TV probably because Vince didn't need any more bad publicity at the time.

[JoeDirt 0]

You rock. Thanks for the answers.

[TheOriginalOrangeGoblin 0]

JoeDirt just some advice as to the best SNME's:

 

Oct 86 - Hogan/Orndorff, Roberts/Steamboat, Bulldogs/Dream Team 2/3 Falls, great Piper angle

 

Mar 88 - Hogan/Race, Savage/Dibiase

 

Nov 89 - Rockers/Arn & Tully 2/3 falls, Warrior/Andre, Hogan jobs to Genius, Hennig destroys title

 

From what I've seen those are my top 3.

[BifEverchad 0]

JoeDirt just some advice as to the best SNME's:

 

Oct 86 - Hogan/Orndorff, Roberts/Steamboat, Bulldogs/Dream Team 2/3 Falls, great Piper angle

 

Mar 88 - Hogan/Race, Savage/Dibiase

 

Nov 89 - Rockers/Arn & Tully 2/3 falls, Warrior/Andre, Hogan jobs to Genius, Hennig destroys title

 

From what I've seen those are my top 3.

Yeah, I'll have to agree with Goblin on those. Although, my favorite and IMO, the best, is the November 89 one.

 

You can check out more about the SNME cards and results here.

[Guest Infinit]

IIRC, Damian Demento's indie alter ego was "Mondo Kleen"

 

J

[Ace309 0]

Of course, that info comes via PWI so there might be a bit more to it than that.

 

If only because of his known preferences for younger women, yes.

 

IIRC, Damian Demento's indie alter ego was "Mondo Kleen"

 

Absolutely right. I remember being really excited about him coming in, and then... blah. I seem to recall PWI and the other Apter Mags giving him the hard sell for a while, but he was just really... really bad.

[Betty Houle 0]

Damian Demento is a kick-ass name though.