Guest CronoT Report post Posted November 16, 2003 I can order SS if I want, but it will be the first PPV I've ordered. I would like some honest, open-minded opinions. Less than 1 1/2 hours, so some quick responses would be appreciated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michrome 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2003 Do not make this your first PPV. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
{''({o..o})''} 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2003 Sweet bleeding hog anus!! It's already on tonight? I guess that's what heavy drinking and hangovers can do to you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iliketurtles 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2003 Dont' start tonight...wait for the Rumble. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2003 NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! Â Wait until the Rumble for sure. It's usually a pretty decent PPV even when the product is bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2003 I sure as hell wouldn't order it, but the sportsbar here plays them for free, so I get to watch them anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheHulkster Report post Posted November 17, 2003 The wrestling will probably not set the world on fire, but if you are into the storylines of the past few months, this looks to be the big blowoff show. It'll probably be entertaining for better or for worse. Most major WWE shows are at the very least decent. I'm personally looking forward to the SS matches and Buried Alive oddly enough. If you're too jaded to think that you could enjoy it, then don't even bother. If you go into it with an open mind, odds are you'll have a good time watching it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2003 Lemme put it this way. If you have watched WWE programming for the last few months, know what the card is, and are actually THINKING about getting it... Get it. It's pretty black and white. You either hate it or you don't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2003 Heh, I guess that isn't very "open minded".. Â My real answer is: Why didn't you get the PRIDE ppv last week? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CronoT Report post Posted November 17, 2003 I do want to order the PPV, and I would like to see the RAW matches, at least. Â It's been about 4 or 5 years since they have had Survivor Series style matches, and I don't want to miss it. Â I just don't want to have "buyer's remorse." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Styles 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2003 Im thinking the same thing. I have nothing to do tonight and could order it for 17.95 on the computer, Im just not sure if its worth it. I abstained from No Mercy and it ened up being a good show, so Im hesitant to skip Survivor Series. In response to the topic starter, if you are thinking about it seriously you should probably order it. As mentioned, it probably won't be a blow away show workrate wise, but a lot of major stoylines are coming together. It's touhg because every match has potential to be good and bad. Im leaning towards giving it a shot... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CronoT Report post Posted November 17, 2003 Im thinking the same thing. I have nothing to do tonight and could order it for 17.95 on the computer, Im just not sure if its worth it. I abstained from No Mercy and it ened up being a good show, so Im hesitant to skip Survivor Series. In response to the topic starter, if you are thinking about it seriously you should probably order it. As mentioned, it probably won't be a blow away show workrate wise, but a lot of major stoylines are coming together. It's touhg because every match has potential to be good and bad. Im leaning towards giving it a shot... Now THAT'S the kind of response I was hoping for. He weighed the positives and negatives, and then gave me an honest response. Â For right now, the only thing that's still making me hesitate is that it will cost me $35 on my next cable bill. Â However, there is an other option. Â I could wait until the live showing is over, and see what people think of it, and then order the replay. Â But I'm pretty sure I'll order it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Styles 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2003 Now THAT'S the kind of response I was hoping for. He weighed the positives and negatives, and then gave me an honest response. Fair and balanced, baby! If you have a high speed connection, you can order the webcast for $17.95 from wwe.com, which is what Im doing since there's no PPV here at college. But yeah, in general WWE does not put on BAD PPV shows, at worst they're just mediocre, and the last couple have been better than expected. Why pay the same amount afterward when you already know what's happened? No fun there... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2003 If you want to buy it, buy it. If you end up feeling bad about it, don't worry, come to this board and there will be half-a-dozen people saying it was a good show and it will make you feel better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2003 Do you have some friends ready to come over? Â Bad PPV + booze + friends = good time. Â Good PPV + booze + friends = better time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Styles 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2003 If you want to buy it, buy it. If you end up feeling bad about it, don't worry, come to this board and there will be half-a-dozen people saying it was a good show and it will make you feel better. Well, the difference is, he ordered the show, and thus has the right to express his opinion Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jack_Bauer 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2003 Do you have some friends ready to come over? Bad PPV + booze + friends = good time.  Good PPV + booze + friends = better time. I actually find that the Bad PPV equation is better, because we all wanna laugh at the badness. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted November 17, 2003 Stay far away from this show. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2003 Im thinking the same thing. I have nothing to do tonight and could order it for 17.95 on the computer, Im just not sure if its worth it. I abstained from No Mercy and it ened up being a good show, so Im hesitant to skip Survivor Series. In response to the topic starter, if you are thinking about it seriously you should probably order it. As mentioned, it probably won't be a blow away show workrate wise, but a lot of major stoylines are coming together. It's touhg because every match has potential to be good and bad. Im leaning towards giving it a shot... Now THAT'S the kind of response I was hoping for. He weighed the positives and negatives, and then gave me an honest response. By the way it looks you really want to order the show, but want someone to justify the purchase for you. Since you waited until the response didn't say no, before saying that was an opinion you wanted. So if you want it, buy it. Â Just because a response is a definite no, doesn't mean it was a close minded decision. Especially considering the best match Tajiri-Knoble is going to be on Heat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2003 He has the right to express my foot up your ass. Â ... I don't really know what that means, but the WWE sucks and I don't need to see their PPV's to say that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CronoT Report post Posted November 17, 2003 Im thinking the same thing. I have nothing to do tonight and could order it for 17.95 on the computer, Im just not sure if its worth it. I abstained from No Mercy and it ened up being a good show, so Im hesitant to skip Survivor Series. In response to the topic starter, if you are thinking about it seriously you should probably order it. As mentioned, it probably won't be a blow away show workrate wise, but a lot of major stoylines are coming together. It's touhg because every match has potential to be good and bad. Im leaning towards giving it a shot... Now THAT'S the kind of response I was hoping for. He weighed the positives and negatives, and then gave me an honest response. By the way it looks you really want to order the show, but want someone to justify the purchase for you. Since you waited until the response didn't say no, before saying that was an opinion you wanted. So if you want it, buy it. Â Just because a response is a definite no, doesn't mean it was a close minded decision. Especially considering the best match Tajiri-Knoble is going to be on Heat. No. It's because most of the negative responses are simply "It will suck.", or some derivative thereof. Â I've only seen one negative response where the person gave it any actual thought, and quite a few postive ones that were thought out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Report post Posted November 17, 2003 Do you have some friends ready to come over? Bad PPV + booze + friends = good time.  Good PPV + booze + friends = better time. I hear that! (Sips Heineken)   I just need some friends over... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2003 Well, the negative opinions have been pretty thought out it other threads already. So people probably aren't going to jump in line to state them all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2003 Here are Meltzers thoughts on the card. He's freaking nuts and has been so for a while, but it's probably what you want to hear... Â Tonight's line-up and thoughts: *Molly Holly vs. Lita for womens title - I'm kind of surprised they didn't get the belt on Lita about a month ago to help promote her book, but the timing didn't work out. I expect Lita to win to complete the comeback from a broken neck story. It will probably be kept short and it should be decent. *Tajiri vs. Jamie Noble for the cruiserweight title - This is one of those bouts that the crowd will make a difference in because you know it'll be technically sound. Just a question of how much they get behind Tajiri. Expect interference from Tajiri's crew, who will apparently be given the name Kyo Dai (Japanese for enormous) tonight. Nobody has told me this, but the timing looks right for Nidia to come back, but if she does, it should lead to a title change. I was under the impression the title goes to Mysterio and this was just a program to buy time, so we'll see. *Bashams vs. Guerreros for Smackdown tag titles - Based on the matches on Smackdown, including the handicap match with Eddy, this should be a sleeper on the show. Bashams have not been allowed with the limitations of their character to show that their interview skills (Doug in particular) are as good as their wrestling ability. Eddy in the ring is pretty close to the best in the business and theoretically Dallas should be a great city for him. It's not a match that people are going to rush to spend money to see, but in its spot on the card, should do very well. *Chris Benoit & Kurt Angle & John Cena & Bradshaw & Bob Holly vs. Nathan Jones & Matt Morgan & Big Show & Brock Lesnar & A-Train in an old school elimination match. I consider this a very important match for a few reasons. Most importantly, Cena has to be put over strong as a face. The finish of the match needs to be Lesnar getting pinned (it would have been so much more effective had they protected him from being pinned on TV so often in recent months but that can't be undone) to set someone up for a title run. It should be Cena who does it, and does it in a non-fluky manner because Cena has to win the confidence of the audience that he's more than just an entertaining high middle guy who brushes but can't beat the headliners. But there are several other important stories. Bob Holly needs to shine at some point, just so he's not buried from the start. Benoit needs to shine. Morgan & Jones can't get buried. Jones is hopeless, at least for now and shouldn't be here. Morgan is here too soon but he's got potential and they need to protect him. And then there is Angle, who one would think should take it easy in this match due to his impending surgery, but the last time Angle was in this position at Mania, he did anything but take it easy. But this isn't Mania and it's a ten-man. This is a tough one to book and I expect either a lot of "groan" weak DQ finishes to eliminate people, or some people getting pinned at a time they shouldn't. On paper, Benoit, Angle, Lesnar and maybe Holly literally have the weight of the world on their shoulders in a match that doesn't seem on paper as important as it really is. *Team Austin (Rob Van Dam & Booker T & Dudleys & Shawn Michaels) vs. Team Bischoff (Chris Jericho & Christian & Scott Steiner & Mark Henry & Randy Orton) and if Austin's team loses, he's gone. If they win, he can run wild. Since Raw is infinitely better with Austin running wild than with Austin gone, his team should win. The only thing is they can do a strong heel turn by someone out of this for screwing Austin. And of course, they screw with the fans on stipulations even more because if they were to do this, we all know Austin is coming back anyway. There are enough strong workers here, plus being in Texas with Austin's career at stake, that this should have great heat and be a strong match. Steiner & Henry are the clear sore thumbs, but you can hide people in a ten-man. Lord knows in the previous bout you're going to have to. *Shane McMahon vs. Kane in an ambulance match. Since this is apparently Shane's farewell for a while, there are going to be some nutty things here. I don't know if that's good or bad, but it won't be boring and there will probably be another stunt man spot finish. Let's see, Shane could be put in a car that explodes, but that only keeps you out for two weeks. Kane can fall off the Titantron and get his balls electrocuted. We don't do guns. So I guess the finish will be a live sodomization. *Bill Goldberg vs. HHH for the Raw title. They didn't do a good match the first time because they went long. This time, Goldberg has to sell a worked ankle injury, while HHH has to be on the offensive not being fully recovered from his latest groin aggravations. Logic says to keep it short, but we've been saying that about every HHH PPV match this year, and ego has consistently prevailed over logic, and probably will happen again. As far as the title. HHH is out all of next month filming a movie. It makes no sense for him to regain the title here, although that was the original plan. On the finish, I'm predicting logic will prevail, and I have a feeling I may be feeling like I was really naive in a few hours. *Vince McMahon vs. Undertaker in a buried alive match. Hardly a wrestling classic, but Vince had pulled off entertaining spectacles this year with far worse than Undertaker. In fact, he's pulled them out with nobody as good as Undertaker. Buried Alive is one of those goofy matches that ruins all logic. Figure Vince goes over, maybe with help from Kane, or Stephanie, or both. 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Guest FrigidSoul Report post Posted November 17, 2003 If your idea of fun is wasting $30+ and watching McMahons for 3hrs then by all means, go for it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted November 17, 2003 Man I think Meltz has been taking hits off of the WWF crackpipe lately. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CronoT Report post Posted November 17, 2003 Well, it's now academic. I waited too long to order it. Â So, I guess I'll have to order the replay if I want to see it. Â :lol::lol: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest One Trick Pony Report post Posted November 17, 2003 Train has had good-great matches with Benoit and I'm sure Angle could do the same. Train/Cena wasn't bad, it was just bland. Why is everyone pushing aside Train and saying Holly might be one of the ones to make that match good? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2003 Since Raw is infinitely better with Austin running wild than with Austin gone, his team should win. I beg to differ. Austin punking out midcarders and upper-midcarders for no reason at all without any repercussions is very much NOT entertaining. In fact, the only way this storyline will make sense at all is for Austin's team to lose. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hogan Made Wrestling 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2003 You should ignore this PPV and head over to ESPN to watch the NFL's game of the year up to now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
