Bush vist to the U.K.

[Highland 0]

The protesters are attentions whores, nothing more. They're exactly like the ones in Seattle, who cause a riot and commit vandalism over globalization, yet can think of no alternatives to that which they claim to oppose. Nevermind that everyone of these fuckers can thank the US, its allies and the work (mostly done or lead by the US) they do to ensure the high standard of living as well as the right to scream and protest over things which these hippies no nothing.

[Jobber of the Week 0]

I was looking up gatling gun on Google News but finally found it's called a "minigun" ironically enough.

 

http://politics.guardian.co.uk/foreignaffa...1086411,00.html

 

Home Secretary David Blunkett has refused to grant diplomatic immunity to armed American special agents and snipers travelling to Britain as part of President Bush's entourage this week.

 

In the case of the accidental shooting of a protester, the Americans in Bush's protection squad will face justice in a British court as would any other visitor, the Home Office has confirmed.

 

The issue of immunity is one of a series of extraordinary US demands turned down by Ministers and Downing Street during preparations for the Bush visit.

 

These included the closure of the Tube network, the use of US air force planes and helicopters and the shipping in of battlefield weaponry to use against rioters.

 

(...)

 

The White House initially demanded the closure of all Tube lines under parts of London to be visited during the trip. But British officials dismissed the idea that a suicide bomber could kill the President by blowing up a Tube train. Ministers are also believed to have dismissed suggestions that a 'sterile zone' around the President should be policed entirely by American special agents and military.

 

Demands for the US air force to patrol above London with fighter aircraft and Black Hawk helicopters have also been turned down.

 

The President's protection force will be armed - as Tony Blair's is when he travels abroad - and around 250 secret service agents will fly in with Bush, but operational control will remain with the Metropolitan Police.

 

The Americans had also wanted to travel with a piece of military hardware called a 'mini-gun', which usually forms part of the mobile armoury in the presidential cavalcade. It is fired from a tank and can kill dozens of people. One manufacturer's description reads: 'Due to the small calibre of the round, the mini-gun can be used practically anywhere. This is especially helpful during peacekeeping deployments.'

 

Peacekeeping deployments? Sure, it'll rain a hail of peace into any situation!

[Swift Terror 0]

Speaking of whores, hippies and fuckers, how about the British reporters at the Bush/Blair press conference?

 

"President Bush, why do so many people hate you?"

 

Well, with respect to why they hate him, perhaps the protestors themselves would better be able to articulate that. And isn't it obvious that all world leaders are going to have a certain number of the population who virulently hate them.

 

One of the reporters asked Blair "what do you say about the British citizens killed in the Istanbul attack as a result of you standing shoulder to shoulder with a controversial US President."

 

As a result of you standing shoulder to shoulder with a controversial US President???

 

Blair of course had a great response, a response which should be obvious to anyone with common sense.

 

And the Guardian newspaper, a very liberal UK paper, ran a poll that showed a majority of Brits supported Pres. Bush. In the same paper, they ran solicited letters from prominent people. The writers were asked to speak directly to Pres. Bush. One of these, comedian Dave Fulton said, "I don't know if you know this but the majority of people outside the US don't hold you in high regard...." Brilliant.

 

 

It is fired from a tank and can kill dozens of people.

 

LMAO, that is a dumbshit reporter for you. Dozens of people? A minigun fires at a max rate of 6,000 rounds per minute. Yeah, I think it can handle dozens. And it was used in Vietnam on boats in the Mekong Delta, and has many other uses, besides being used from a tank.

Edited November 21, 2003 by Swift Terror

[Guest MikeSC]

Have just been watching news of the protests in London and I have to say I have never seen so much hate for one man in all my life. You would think London was in the heart of the Gaza Strip what with all the U.S. flags being burnt. I knew that Bush was disliked but the size and intensity of these protests have surprised me

The ironic thing is that if governments were the way the protestors WANT them to be --- they wouldn't be PERMITTED to protest.

 

He handled the protestors wonderfully.

-=Mike

[Guest JMA]

I think a lot of public relations problems could be solved with the judicious use of Gatling guns.

That only works in China.

[Vyce 0]

London Freed from Tyranny, Bush Statue Toppled

(2003-11-20) -- Citizens of London streamed into the streets, filling the air with cheers and celebratory gunfire as a crowd toppled a statue of the infamous tyrant George Bush.

 

The exuberant mob gave vent to the long suppressed hopes of a people who had suffered for almost three years without freedom under the iron fist of Mr. Bush and his puppet, British Prime Minister Tony Blair.

 

"I can now speak freely," said one Londoner through tears. "It is like a great darkness has been lifted from us."

 

The search now begins for the British torture chambers and mass graves which the Bush-Blair regime kept full during their reign of terror. The hunt is also on for the two despots who were last seen entering Mr. Blair's underground bunker at No. 10 Downing Street.

 

And while leaders in the jubilant crowd called for the immediate institution of democracy in England, U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan urged caution.

 

"We welcome the fall of these tyrants," said Mr. Annan, "but it is a well-known fact that English-speaking peoples are not advanced enough to rule themselves."

[Justice 0]

It is fired from a tank and can kill dozens of people.

 

LMAO, that is a dumbshit reporter for you. Dozens of people? A minigun fires at a max rate of 6,000 rounds per minute. Yeah, I think it can handle dozens. And it was used in Vietnam on boats in the Mekong Delta, and has many other uses, besides being used from a tank.

I've never heard of miniguns being mounted on tanks, though that'd be one thing I'd NEVER want to see as an infantry man. Considering we use these things in areas like Psychological Warfare with "Spookies" and have them nail missiles out of the mid-air to protect our war ships, I'd say they are something fucking frightening even to think about facing.

[Highland 0]

I'm curious, are foreign heads of state allowed to take the same measures the US does in other countries when they visit the US?

[Justice 0]

I'm curious, are foreign heads of state allowed to take the same measures the US does in other countries when they visit the US?

I wouldn't be surprised if the Secret Service lended some of their man-power to the job.

[Highland 0]

Thanks.

[Jobber of the Week 0]

I wouldn't be surprised if the Secret Service lended some of their man-power to the job.

The British did offer their manpower, and they do their job well if you consider that British heads of state don't get killed that often. But the White House insists on using it's own people here.

[Justice 0]

I wouldn't be surprised if the Secret Service lended some of their man-power to the job.

The British did offer their manpower, and they do their job well if you consider that British heads of state don't get killed that often. But the White House insists on using it's own people here.

Oh no, we are talking about foreign heads of state coming to the US. But I did not know that. Gotta love the Brits .

[Guest MikeSC]

I wouldn't be surprised if the Secret Service lended some of their man-power to the job.

The British did offer their manpower, and they do their job well if you consider that British heads of state don't get killed that often. But the White House insists on using it's own people here.

Didn't they have a tabloid reporter who was basically embedded with the security force that would have protected Bush during his visit?

 

Didn't they NEVER catch the guy?

-=Mike

[Jobber of the Week 0]

Speaking of whores, hippies and fuckers, how about the British reporters at the Bush/Blair press conference?

 

"President Bush, why do so many people hate you?"

His repsonse about how they couldn't do this in Baghdad until recently made me laugh.

 

I wasn't aware they can

[Vyce 0]

OMG AMERICANS JUST AS BAD AS SADDAM!!!!!!1111

[Jobber of the Week 0]

Now that's not true at all, he should have just chosen his words more carefully.

[Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0]

This actually absolutely can't be seen as a logical slam against Bush considering the cultural differences, but it's amusing nonetheless.

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/artic...-2003Nov19.html

 

Wednesday night's state dinner alone presented numerous  quandaries for Bush.  As did the 168 other guests, Bush had seven different 50-year-old crystal wine glasses before him -- and he doesn't even drink. Then there were his three forks, three knives and two spoons, not counting the two itty-bitty spoons for the mustard and the salt (or is it sugar?). How was a man whose own official menus feature comfort food such as brisket and cornbread to know that a menu of "Delice de Fletan Roti aux Herbes" is nothing more dangerous than halibut?  [...]

The queen gave her toast, noting that, unlike presidents, she was not term-limited. The president smiled, Prince Charles did not. When the queen finished, the president raised his glass, but Her Majesty did not return the gesture, instead waiting for the American national anthem to begin. Hearing the music, Bush put down his glass and placed his hand on his heart, then took it off, then put it on again. "The Star-Spangled Banner" over, he clinked glasses with the queen, then turned to clink glasses with Princess Anne, who was already sipping from hers. 

 

The awkwardness continued after Bush's toast, when he again picked up his glass to clink with the queen, who stood motionless, waiting for her own national anthem. Bush put his glass back down and, as the orchestra played "God Save the Queen," winked at somebody in the audience. Finally, the anthem finished, president and queen consummated their clinks. 

[justsoyouknow 0]

This actually absolutely can't be seen as a logical slam against Bush considering the cultural differences, but it's amusing nonetheless.

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/artic...-2003Nov19.html

 

Wednesday night's state dinner alone presented numerous  quandaries for Bush.  As did the 168 other guests, Bush had seven different 50-year-old crystal wine glasses before him -- and he doesn't even drink. Then there were his three forks, three knives and two spoons, not counting the two itty-bitty spoons for the mustard and the salt (or is it sugar?). How was a man whose own official menus feature comfort food such as brisket and cornbread to know that a menu of "Delice de Fletan Roti aux Herbes" is nothing more dangerous than halibut?  [...]

The queen gave her toast, noting that, unlike presidents, she was not term-limited. The president smiled, Prince Charles did not. When the queen finished, the president raised his glass, but Her Majesty did not return the gesture, instead waiting for the American national anthem to begin. Hearing the music, Bush put down his glass and placed his hand on his heart, then took it off, then put it on again. "The Star-Spangled Banner" over, he clinked glasses with the queen, then turned to clink glasses with Princess Anne, who was already sipping from hers. 

 

The awkwardness continued after Bush's toast, when he again picked up his glass to clink with the queen, who stood motionless, waiting for her own national anthem. Bush put his glass back down and, as the orchestra played "God Save the Queen," winked at somebody in the audience. Finally, the anthem finished, president and queen consummated their clinks. 

The Queen likes the Sex Pistols, too? Awesome.

 

Someone should have briefed him on manners before he went to a formal dinner.

[Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0]

Probably, but you still can't really fault him THAT much for it. Like I said, I just found it slightly amusing.

[justsoyouknow 0]

Sounds like a Saturday Night Live skit to me.

[Vern Gagne 0]

President Bush laughed when the Queen said she wasn't term limited, but Prince Charles didn't.

 

 

OMG He's planning on killing her...

[Guest webmasterofwrestlegame]

Well the only thing that annoyed me about Bush coming over here was all the protesters clogging up the trains

 

But I don't have a problem with the protesters - they don't like President Bush's reasons for going to war and wanted to be heard.

 

That said, some of the things the US wanted because Bush was coming over here (bullet proof glass at Buckingham Palace anyone!) was laughable.

 

I just sense a lot of hostility towards the protesters from the guys from North America here - why?

[Vern Gagne 0]

It's the people calling Bush a terrorist, and worse than Hitler, Hussein, Bin Laden combined that people have a problem with.

[Firestarter 0]

I've said it before and I'll say it again. The House of Windsor is a rabble of ill-bred, unmannerly, graceless merchants, suddenly thrust into prominence, with no idea how to act as if they actually deserved to be called "royal." They have no training, no sense of duty, and no civility. Should've remained greengrocers; the crudity would remain, but at least they wouldn't be so absurdly full of themselves.

[Swift Terror 0]

That was a very funny incident. The fact that Bush does not easily fit in to the Royal atmosphere of Windsor only makes him look better to most Americans. The royal family hasn't exactly gotten a great deal of good press the last several years.

 

This, and the Billy Bob Thornton portrayal of a fictional U.S. president in the film "Love Actually", will only solidify the view among some Brits that Bush is a slack-jawed fool and a mean guy to boot.

 

I just sense a lot of hostility towards the protesters from the guys from North America here - why?

 

I don't know about Canada, but Americans don't think much of the protestors here on our own soil, so it stands to reason that we would have the same feelings for foreign protestors (who are generally the same people behind the scenes). It's one thing to disagree with the policies and ideology of Bush, without going so far as to claim he is evil, but what we see from the majority of protestors is just that--assertions that he is evil and wants to kill as many people as he can while in office. The organizers of these protests are such radicals as 'moveon.org' (who seem to be having trouble moving on from the 2000 election), and the World Workers Party. A cursory examination of these groups shows that they are very radical and have deep hatred for Bush beyond just policy disagreement. Of course many of the people on the street are unaware of what these groups stand for and are just patriotic Americans speaking theirs minds, not even realizing they are being played as useful idiots.

[Jobber of the Week 0]

I don't know about Canada, but George Bush, Fox News, and myself don't think much of the protestors here on our own soil, so it stands to reason that we would have the same feelings for foreign protestors

Had to apply corrections to the above quote for accuracy.

 

Okay, just kidding. Yes, most of the people organizing the protests are quite extreme, but not everyone who goes to them are. Most the people I talked to at one locally last year weren't telling me the guy was Hitler Incarnate or anything, but simply didn't like the guy or his policies and wanted to vote him out come next round. In that sense, I find it iteresting to see such large numbers, although obviously UK protestors are going to have no effect on US elections.

 

 

If nothing else, it's nice to know people are still willing to make some noise when being limited to "Free-Speech Zones".

[PLAGIARISM! 0]

All went as well as can be expected, I think. I still can't see any weight to the arguments 'for' this though. No-one I know wants the twat here.

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

OMG AMERICANS JUST AS BAD AS SADDAM!!!!!!1111

Of course the article left out the part when the troops gassed the protestor...

[Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0]

Of course the article left out the part when the troops gassed the protestor...

Damn liberal media.

 

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

It was Reuters.

 

Damn Liberal International Media...