Slayer Posted December 2, 2003 Author Report Posted December 2, 2003 Megadeth = Randy Savage Both considered second bananas to more popular icons (Metallica/Hogan) by the mainstream, but considered by their respective communities to have produced far better work
Guest Choken One Posted December 2, 2003 Report Posted December 2, 2003 Jericho is still Fozzy correct?
Brocklock Posted December 2, 2003 Report Posted December 2, 2003 Megadeth = Randy Savage Both considered second bananas to more popular icons (Metallica/Hogan) by the mainstream, but considered by their respective communities to have produced far better work That was maybe the best comparison yet.
Steviekick Posted December 2, 2003 Report Posted December 2, 2003 Here's my new one... Rick and Scott Steiner->Max and Igor Cavallera Together (as the Steiner Brothers and Sepultura), they achieved the greatest heights of their career. By themselves is a different story. Max and Scott have drastically changed (Soulfly/Big Poppa Pump) from what made them big in the first place, and people always talk about how good they used to be. Rick and Igor try to continue by themselves, but haven't fared as well as their brothers. People would mark for their respective reunions, but no one is holding their breath, and are predicting that a reunion would be dissappointing at least.
Slayer Posted December 2, 2003 Author Report Posted December 2, 2003 ^ Wow, just... wow I'm clamoring for some others here, hmm...
Slayer Posted December 2, 2003 Author Report Posted December 2, 2003 Judas Priest -> Superstar Billy Graham Others before may have laid the groundwork ahead of them (Thesz, Rogers, Sammartino; Sabbath, Zeppelin and Deep Purple), but they were the first true member of their profession, combining flashy style and gimmickry into an unforgettable and undeniably influential package
Steviekick Posted December 2, 2003 Report Posted December 2, 2003 ^ Wow, just... wow I'm clamoring for some others here, hmm... Thanks...this seems to be a thread I can positively contibute to I thought of the last one while waiting in line at the bank.
The Metal Maniac Posted December 2, 2003 Report Posted December 2, 2003 I think someone mentioned John Schaffer -> Benoit earlier, and I'd like to take that out a step... While both are very skilled at what they do, they're also distinct in the fact that merely by watching/listening to them, you can tell exactly who inspires them. Iced Earth are very similar to their main influence, Iron Maiden. They use many of the same things that Maiden does (Galloping beats, that zombie that's on half their stuff, their vocals at times) and it should be brutually obvious to anyone that Schaffer loves Maiden. Benoit, on the other hand, is very similar to HIS main influence, the Dynamite Kid. Benoit uses a lot of what Dynamite Kid did (snap suplexes, superplexes, the diving headbutt, hell, I've seen Benoit do the exact same arm wringer reversal, and they're even built the same) and it should be obvious that Benoit loves Dyno-mite Kido. EDIT: Would you say that Billy Graham came before Gorgeous George? I honestly don't know the dates of their respective careers, but George is generally the one who I hear spoken of as being the first real gimmicky, never-shut-up kinda wrestler.
Slayer Posted December 2, 2003 Author Report Posted December 2, 2003 (edited) I think someone mentioned John Schaffer -> Benoit earlier, and I'd like to take that out a step... Thank you. Nice continuation of the analogy Would you say that Billy Graham came before Gorgeous George? I honestly don't know the dates of their respective careers, but George is generally the one who I hear spoken of as being the first real gimmicky, never-shut-up kinda wrestler. I thought of Billy Graham first, honestly... what also helps is Graham and JP gained and acheived fame around the same time period ('77-'79) Gorgeous George = Black Sabbath Here we go. Both took their own direction in their respective professions and stood apart from the masses with their uniqueness (glittery fashions and pompous interviews; sludgy guitars and gloomy lyrics). Some later members of their professions may have been better, but they were truly the first Edited December 2, 2003 by Angelslayer
Steviekick Posted December 2, 2003 Report Posted December 2, 2003 ^ Wow, just... wow I'm clamoring for some others here, hmm... Thanks...this seems to be a thread I can positively contibute to I thought of the last one while waiting in line at the bank.
The Metal Maniac Posted December 2, 2003 Report Posted December 2, 2003 That's gotta be a new record for the longest time in-between a double-post.
Steviekick Posted December 2, 2003 Report Posted December 2, 2003 hehe...no clue. Maybe i had a window hidden and I hit refresh...sorry. Anyway, I came up with another one... Shadows Fall -> John Cena Both spent some time in the indies and are always being plugged to be the next big thing. They show their influences, but do it in their own way. Oh, and both are from Mass.
A Happy Medium Posted December 2, 2003 Report Posted December 2, 2003 Wow..two hours. Anyways, I'm trying to draw a connection between Axl Rose and Teddy Hart. Both of them have talent somewhere to be great, and have both impressed with debuts, but then piss on everyone afterwards and overstay their welcome, and are then ridiculed severely by peers and fans alike. I'm trying to think of someone for The Beatles and At The Drive In. Andrew WK/John Cena...neither are especially talented in their crafts, but still have enough charisma and presence to make you take notice, and both are entertaining and have connections with the crowd. EDIT: Well, there goes my Cena comparison.
Steviekick Posted December 2, 2003 Report Posted December 2, 2003 Here are some women ones I just made up... Gail Kim->Kittie When both these Canadian women debuted, they had a lot of buzz and stuff. Once we actually found out that they weren't that good at all. Both are now starting over and hopefully they will return in much better shape. Victoria->Christina Scabbia of Lacuna Coil Both pretty much broke out in 2002, are hot, and have black hair. They are really cool in a bizarre kind of way, and are beloved on the 'net. And they are both flanked by a subservient male (Stevie/Andreas).
Guest Agent of Oblivion Posted December 2, 2003 Report Posted December 2, 2003 Crowbar ---> Crowbar While both are decently talented, they fail to achieve any major success, while still appealing marginally to a certain audience. Crowbar is pretty hard core, while not being overly psychotic. Pretty easy to follow, if unspectacular.
Jack_Bauer Posted December 2, 2003 Report Posted December 2, 2003 Linkin Park > Test Both are part of the hated areas ( hosses or nu metal ) but don't get a lot of the stick that the majority of that area do. They also occaisionally show signs of talent.
Guest Plushy Al Logan Posted December 2, 2003 Report Posted December 2, 2003 Van Halen = nWo Hollywood? Eddie- Hogan Valerie Bertinelli- Bischoff Alex- Horace Hogan, only gets a push due to family connections Ray Daniels- See Alex Dave- Nash, both broken down Sammy- Scott Hall Gary- Syxx Pac, Vincent, Stevie Ray Michael Anthony- The only one who isn't a broken down mess. Where do hair bands fit into this?
Guest Agent of Oblivion Posted December 2, 2003 Report Posted December 2, 2003 Hair bands are the Von Erichs. Very famous in their time and place, but gradually prone to breaking down due to personal demons, the pressures of fame, changes in the business, and family quarrels. They are all but extinct.
Corey_Lazarus Posted December 3, 2003 Report Posted December 3, 2003 I wouldn't mind the references of Linkin, Van Halen, or hair bands...if they were metal. Props to Agent's Crowbar->Crowbar, and I agree with the Shadows Fall->rising indy star (most likely AJ Styles). I'm trying to think of some for Exodus and maybe even some Raven (but they don't go together at all). I'll give each a shot... Exodus->Curt Hennig Both were very, very talented in their respective fields, and influenced performers to come for ages. After nearly disappearing off of the radar for a while, both returned with great fanfare in their respective professions before their untimely death (Paul Baloff's passing; Hennig's passing). Their influence, although minor, is still felt today, and both are fondly remembered by those in the know. ...still can't think of one for Raven...
Steviekick Posted December 3, 2003 Report Posted December 3, 2003 The hair bands and stuff are metal, although extremely watered down. And all the wrestlers we have been comparing to pop metal bands are all wrestlers with really limited skills, so it works. as for Raven... Raven->Peter Steele of Type O Negative Both stumbled around in early versions of the character/band (Johnny Polo/Carnivore) before finally creating the identity that would make them big. They are influenced by their predecessers (old school psychology/heel tricks and Black Sabbath influence/penchant for covers). Personal problems and lack of a push (WCW/WWE and Roadrunner Records) have halted their growth, and as a result they have a cult following. They also have a very deep, dark, and brooding persona that is accompanied by a wickedly evil sense of humor.
Guest Plushy Al Logan Posted December 3, 2003 Report Posted December 3, 2003 I have a few more before I go: Lita Ford (only if she gets mainstream attention again) = Sable Torrie Wilson = Jimmy Page Despite not having anything to do with Wrestling and Heavy Metal respectively, both are extremely associated with their genres too often. Except Torrie is annoying Sammy Hagar = Rikishi/The Hummer driver Self-explanatory Trish = Jimmy Page Both like to put their names on everything. Did Page change his name to Led Zeppelin? It sure seems like it.
Nevermortal Posted December 3, 2003 Report Posted December 3, 2003 Amy Lee + Ben Moody -> Matt + Jeff Hardy
Red Baron Posted December 4, 2003 Report Posted December 4, 2003 Jimmy Page->The Rock. Both very talented, both went to work on other forms of entertainment. Both are respected by lots of people, both are overrated
Corey_Lazarus Posted December 4, 2003 Report Posted December 4, 2003 Only one was a wrestler, and the other was a guitarist that happened to know a few pentatonic scales. Oh, and did I mention Led Zeppelin never were, are, or will be metal? Thanks. Raven->Type O (specifically Peter Steele) is good. Very good. Killswitch Engage->America's Most Wanted Most of their work is watchable, but they get way too much praise than they should ever be worth. Their work, while usually acceptable, is bland and vanilla, with many of their songs/matches sounding/looking the same most of the time. They have occasional bouts of utter greatness (KsE's "Element Of One"; AMW's cage match with XXX), but, for the most part, they're rather cookie-cutter, and you'll never understand their appeal to some people.
Steviekick Posted December 4, 2003 Report Posted December 4, 2003 Here's a couple quick little ones that I just thought of... Ultimo Dragon->In Flames Both are hugely over in their respective homelands (Japan/Sweden), due to their really great skills. Because of this they have built a huge worldwide reputation, and they are very well liked by smarks and intelligent metal fans. However, they have never been able to get over majorly in America. Hatebreed->Mark Henry Both have very limited abilities (songwriting and in ring). It also wonders many people of why they are in the mainstream (HB being signed to mainstream label Universal Records and Henry's überlong WWE contract).
Guest Agent of Oblivion Posted December 4, 2003 Report Posted December 4, 2003 Ultimate Warrior Interviews--->Fantomas' first album. Nonsensical psychobabble with sudden bursts of energy that suddenly blow up, spiraling into confusing peaks and valleys, sometimes ominously whispered, sometimes screamed at full-volume, leaving the listener distraught, and testing their patience for the madness.
Steviekick Posted December 6, 2003 Report Posted December 6, 2003 I thought of another one that works.... LANCE STORM-> DEVIN TOWNSEND/STRAPPING YOUNG LAD Both are Canadian and started out doing something that was different and in a related field (amateur/pro volleyball player, part of Steve Vai's band). They each have weird quirks to their style (weird punches, the nasally vocals), and are both totally loved and respected by the Internet fans, but you will never see anyone with any merch from them. Aside from their day jobs, they both have things that they are into (internet columnist/book club, The D.T. Band/producing other bands).
Guest Posted December 6, 2003 Report Posted December 6, 2003 Sting=Metallica, they both suck now but for the first 5 years they could pass. They came back with a new look, different fans and a different style. Both groups of fans will always be dreamers and say that their style was innovative. I DONT THINK SO
Corey_Lazarus Posted December 6, 2003 Report Posted December 6, 2003 ^Perhaps a deeper reason as to why Sting left his awesome instrumental theme from '97 and the first half of '98 to use "Seek And Destroy" for his heel turn?! Storm/Townsend is good...but I think a better one would have been Bret/Townsend, if only because Bret > Storm, and Townsend > every other Canadian musician ever.
Recommended Posts
Please sign in to comment
You will be able to leave a comment after signing in
Sign In Now