Steviekick 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2003 When DX originally formed, how did HHH and Shawn Michaels wind up joining forces? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Stunt Granny Report post Posted December 16, 2003 September '97 HBK was feuding with The Undertaker and HHH was feuding with Mankind. They threw the two feuds in a tag team ME on Raw HHH/HBK vs. Taker/Mankind. They just kinda stuck together after that match. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cawthon777 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2003 Triple H & Chyna came ringside during HBK's match with Mankind on Raw a few weeks prior (during the match is when Rude made his return to the WWF). The following week (8/18/97 in Atlantic City) is when the tag match took place - which ended when HBK twice hit Taker over the head with a steel chair, busting him open. During the match, the commentators made a point of mentioning that HBK and Triple H didn't really want to be tagging together (Shawn was still kinda face at the time) ... that wasn't necessarily the case as the audience later found out. A few weeks later was IYH: Ground Zero and by that time Triple H's feud with Mankind had died out so he just hung around Shawn and acted as backup. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Metal Maniac 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2003 And for the record, it was Bret Hart who first called them De-Generation-X, if memory serves... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Papacita 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2003 And for the record, it was Bret Hart who first called them De-Generation-X, if memory serves... Nah. Bret had been calling Shawn a degenerate on and off throughout the year, but Shawn was the one who coined the DX name on (I believe) the 10/13/97 Raw. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Metal Maniac 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2003 I'd like to look further into that... I'm almost positive that I can recall Bret doing an in-ring promo, and then DX popped up on the screen. I seem to recall that HHH and HBK made some big dick jokes (big surprise, eh?) and it seemed to be leading to a HHH/Bret match down the road. But I'm legit almost positive that Bret said something along the lines of "You're just a bunch of Degenerates. Degeneration X, that's all," to which HBK replied "Hey, I kinda like that..." Are there any sites which would have this kind of info? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Papacita 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2003 (edited) Edit: Here's the exact quote from Shawn: And you talk about us being Degenerates. You know what, I am tired of Generation X getting a bad rap. Do you think you're a degenerate (to Hunter)? I mean, I'm positive I'm one [Hunter - I guess I'd have to be one]. You know what? Generation X always gets a bad rap; everybody calls us degenerates. Degeneration X...is that us? Degeneration X! Triple H, HBK, Chyna> Ravishing Rick. We are Degeneration X! You make the rules, and we will break them! Edited December 16, 2003 by Papacita Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Indikator Report post Posted December 16, 2003 Before their first tag match they had a promo together where they seemingly couldn´t stand each other Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2003 When and how did DX finally break up? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cawthon777 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2003 If you count the 2000 version, they just drifted apart. Even though Triple H was wearing the colors from time to time, he was better utlized as a singles wrestler and didn't need DX around. X-Pac & Road Dogg were tagging but then they started feuding in August, with Road Dogg turning heel. I guess you could refer to that as the final nail in the coffin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vanhalen 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2003 If you watch WWE One Night Only, you can see the first time DX come together in 1997, they were testing the reaction of the English, before putting it together in america, shame they dont do that more often for UK PPV's Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Stunt Granny Report post Posted December 16, 2003 DX teamed together one last time in October 2000 to take on the Radicalz. After that, they pretty much put it to bed. Though X-Pac had X-Factor shortly after, one of the greatest stables of all time. Edit: I just remembered the night after Vengence 2002 DX reformed for about 5 minutes until HHH Pedigreed Shawn straight to hell. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest netslob Report post Posted December 16, 2003 their eyes met from across the room, and they knew they had something special together... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Papacita 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2003 If you watch WWE One Night Only, you can see the first time DX come together in 1997, they were testing the reaction of the English, before putting it together in america, shame they dont do that more often for UK PPV's Actually, they had been together for a good month or so by the time One Night Only went down. Shawn and Hunter even attacked the British Bulldog on a Raw to build up to the Euro title match. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted December 17, 2003 Also, before being named De-Generation X they were simply called The Kliq/Clique. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Stunt Granny Report post Posted December 17, 2003 The Kliq and DX are two completely different things. The Kliq = Group of assholes backstage. DX = HHH and HBK being assholes on TV Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cawthon777 0 Report post Posted December 17, 2003 Also, before being named De-Generation X they were simply called The Kliq/Clique. The Kliq was simply Shawn's name for his fans. The Clique was the backstage group. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ligerbomb03 Report post Posted December 18, 2003 Correct me if I'm wrong here, but wasn't Degeneration-X just a ripoff of Kaientai? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ace309 0 Report post Posted December 18, 2003 Correct me if I'm wrong here, but wasn't Degeneration-X just a ripoff of Kaientai? I'd have to disagree. As I recall, the Kaientai DX name was a garbling of "Deluxe." I also think that "Degeneration X" was coined by a columnist in... the New York Times, was it? If you want to say that the stables were similar... well, okay, but only in the same way that every rudo stable is similar. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Report post Posted December 18, 2003 How did D-X break apart in 1999 (before the unwanted return in October)? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve J. Rogers 0 Report post Posted December 18, 2003 How did D-X break apart in 1999 (before the unwanted return in October)? WM of that year, the Raw after the Rumble HHH challanged The Rock to a "I Quit" match for the championship, HHH had Rocky seconds away from saying "I Quit" when Rock's Corporation teamates Kane, Shamrock and Bossman had Chyna ready for a chokeslam and were going to do it if HHH didn't say "I Quit" and he did, then Chyna turned on him Flash forward to WM, HHH vs Kane and the Russoific swerves begin. Chyna turns on Kane (whom she had been working with as a second) and joins HHH. Later X-Pac faced Shane McMahon for the Euro title and it was during this match that HHH turned on X-Pac given Shane the win and the title. Essentially turning HHH and Chyna into members of the Corporation and kicking Kane out of the Corporation X-Pac and Kane would soon join forces and sometime around May Road Dogg and Billy Gunn split up so occasionally X-Pac and Road Dogg would tag as well Actually D-X v3.0 came out in the fall when the new champion, Triple H, needed a posse. The Outlaws reuinited, X-Pac rejoined and turned on Kane and Chyna was pretty much phased out as she would be showing up as a face as a singles wrestler in a fued against Jeff Jarrett and later Chris Jericho so enter Stephanie McMahon, soon to be Stephaine McMahon-Helmsley in November of 1999 That version of D-X was pretty much dispersed with no real final breakup moment. Gunn got hurt, Road Dogg got canned and X-Pac started X-Factor Then there was the 5 second HHH-HBK reuion... Steve Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted December 18, 2003 Also, before being named De-Generation X they were simply called The Kliq/Clique. The Kliq was simply Shawn's name for his fans. The Clique was the backstage group. I remember the commentators calling Shawn/Hunter/Chyna/Rude the Clique before the D-X name was coined. And I already knew the Kliq/Clique thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve J. Rogers 0 Report post Posted December 18, 2003 Also, before being named De-Generation X they were simply called The Kliq/Clique. The Kliq was simply Shawn's name for his fans. The Clique was the backstage group. I remember the commentators calling Shawn/Hunter/Chyna/Rude the Clique before the D-X name was coined. And I already knew the Kliq/Clique thing. Possibly that was a dig at Hall/Nash/Syxx Or some Vince Russoesque inside reference D-X did alot of inside references during their early days with signs and they even aired the MSG footage complete with Shawn asking Hunter "Wait! How can that be, weren't you a bad guy and wasn't I a good guy?" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Sandusky 0 Report post Posted December 18, 2003 Man, now I want to hear X-Factor's music. What was that Uncle Kracker song called again? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Report post Posted December 19, 2003 Man, now I want to hear X-Factor's music. What was that Uncle Kracker song called again? Theme was soooooo bad. WWE Shows they can make or break people. They have Justin Credible come in as X-Pacs partner....2 months later, he goes on a 15 month losing streak before being fired. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JST 0 Report post Posted December 20, 2003 What You Looking At? by Uncle Kracker. Which is of course Kid Rock doing 3/4 of the song. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EdwardKnoxII 0 Report post Posted December 20, 2003 Uncle Kracker Title: What You Lookin' At? (X-Factor Theme song) X-Factor Theme Yo you dealin' with the X-Factor! I got everything I ever wanted, And I'll never give that back. Well, I know you hate X-Factor, but you ain't gotta look at me like that, I said you ain't gotta look at me like that. What you lookin' at? What you lookin' at? What you lookin' at? What you lookin' at? You wanna rhyme pullin' stunts like that, See never in my life could I front like that, I ain't cut like that, I couldnt' run like that, I'ma keep it non-fiction and take my hat, Uhhh, Remember back when things looked grim, I spent a lot of money and time on whimps, I remember the crew, Remember the good times, Remember the orange and I'll remember the sunshine, It's all gone thats the thing of the past, The fact remains that it moves real fast, So while you sit around and hope things won't change, I'll be sittin' pretty singing Hey Pac Wait! I gotta' tell you baby, Life's been good to me, And I know that makes you mad 'cause thats something you can't see. I got everything I ever wanted, And I'll never give that back. Well, I know you hate X-Factor, but you ain't gotta look at me like that, I said you ain't gotta look at me like that. What you lookin' at? What you lookin' at? What you lookin' at? What you lookin' at? Yo hear me comin' off of songs of redemption, I've been a prass for rast and attaption, I've got your extention, but I'll probably never call, I'm apalled by the things you done, Left a trail of wrongs and can't account for one, I get done and I'm glad, but it's a shame you waste it, You want this so bad you can taste it! Detroit love do you feel now!? A stick can move can you feel now!? I'm on a ride for the 2-triple-0, Full flair your all american hero! I gotta' tell you baby, Life's been good to me, And I know that makes you mad 'cause thats something you can't see. I got everything I ever wanted, And I'll never give that back. Well, I know you hate X-Factor, but you ain't gotta look at me like that, I said you ain't gotta look at me like that. What you lookin' at? What you lookin' at? What you lookin' at? What you lookin' at? I'm here to tell you baby, Life's been good to me, And I know that makes you mad 'cause thats something you can't see. I got everything I ever wanted, And I'll never give that back. Well, I know you hate X-Factor, but you ain't gotta look at me like that, I said you ain't gotta look at me like that. What you lookin' at? What you lookin' at? What you lookin' at? What you lookin' at? What you lookin' at? What you lookin' at? What you lookin' at? What you lookin' at? What you lookin' at? What you lookin' at? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Your Olympic Hero Report post Posted December 20, 2003 wow, after reading those lyrics.. worst possible entrance song for a wrestler. ever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Some Guy 0 Report post Posted December 20, 2003 The original DX was called "the Clique" or "Kliq" depending on how you want to spell it for a week or two after they showed the MSG hug fest on Raw, which was pretty cool at the time. On "One Night Only" they were calling themselves the "Triple Threat" and then Shawn named the group DX during a Bret promo as some one already mentioned. As a side note HBK and Mankind had a great match on Raw the night Rick Rude redebuted. Shawn was on an incredible roll in late '97, it was probably his best time as a worker. The Taker feud, the Bret match as SS '97 before the ending, the Owen match on Raw, the aforementioned match with Foley, etc... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deancoles 0 Report post Posted December 21, 2003 The original DX was called "the Clique" or "Kliq" depending on how you want to spell it for a week or two after they showed the MSG hug fest on Raw, which was pretty cool at the time. On "One Night Only" they were calling themselves the "Triple Threat" and then Shawn named the group DX during a Bret promo as some one already mentioned. As a side note HBK and Mankind had a great match on Raw the night Rick Rude redebuted. Shawn was on an incredible roll in late '97, it was probably his best time as a worker. The Taker feud, the Bret match as SS '97 before the ending, the Owen match on Raw, the aforementioned match with Foley, etc... And his match with Bulldog at One Night Only. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
