Goldberg Unhappy.....Again

[NYU 0]

Word backstage in WWE is that Goldberg is once again very unhappy with how he is being used by the company. Most feel that he is mainly unhappy because he had to drop the World Title to Triple H at Armageddon. While that might have something to do with his frustration, sources indicate that he is really unhappy over WWE not booking his character properly.

 

In WCW, Goldberg was pushed as more dominant than all his opponents, while in WWE he is often beaten down for much of a match before making a comeback.

 

Goldberg met with Vince McMahon at Armageddon and told him he is not happy with how he is being used. This led WWE to make many changes to RAW on Monday. The entire Goldberg/La Resistance angle was added to the show as a last minute attempt to please Goldberg.

 

Goldberg is also apparently unhappy that he is "only" being paid his $1.5 million dollar downside deal and not getting any bonuses. Of course, WWE is not really giving many bonuses to any wrestler since business is down.

 

Credit: 1wrestling.com

 

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Vince, just cut your losses and get rid of the guy. If it's been said once, it's been said a thousand times.

 

Fuck Goldberg.

[OldSchoolWrestling 0]

The guy got too much in WCW. He doesn't realize how many people are busting their ass just to have a job and he was one of a select few who even got an opportunity to beat HHH. Cut him loose and let him continue to pretend he's bigger than the business.

[Guest Dynamite Kido]

The fact of the matter is that he ISN'T being booked correctly. I know, everybody is gonna get their panties in an uproar. I don't even necessarily like the guy, but if they are gonna have him in the company they should at least book them correctly.

[EdwardKnoxII 0]

THe fact of the matter guys that the WWE ISN'T booking Goldberg right and he has a right to be mad. Which I know everyone is going to bitch about. And the sad thing is bitching is what he's going to have to do.

[NYU 0]

The fact of the matter is that he ISN'T being booked correctly.  I know, everybody is gonna get their panties in an uproar.  I don't even necessarily like the guy, but if they are gonna have him in the company they should at least book them correctly.

If you're going to be the Heavyweight Champion, and get paid 1.5 million dollars, then you should be giving the federation their money's worth. Guys have to learn to adapt. We've all seen that Goldberg could do the 30-second squash well. But if he's going to be a money guy, and a guy that's supposed to carry a PPV based on his name and the match he's in, then he has to realize things are going to change. He MUST take some punishment and then come back later on. He HAS to be able to put on a 15-20 minute match, which requires much more than a spear and jackhammer.

 

He has no depth, as we've seen from his fairly weak PPV singles matches with Triple H and the Rock. Yet, he refuses to attempt to change that - and that's the problem.

[haVoc 0]

I still wanna know why they suspended him for 30 days? Does he have something else going on?

 

I know he was suppose to work some matches in Japan. When is that?

[Guest netslob]

Goldberg is also apparently unhappy that he is "only" being paid his $1.5 million dollar downside deal and not getting any bonuses. Of course, WWE is not really giving many bonuses to any wrestler since business is down.

 

y'know, it's not a stereotype if it's true...

[Guest Dynamite Kido]

The fact of the matter is that he ISN'T being booked correctly.  I know, everybody is gonna get their panties in an uproar.  I don't even necessarily like the guy, but if they are gonna have him in the company they should at least book them correctly.

If you're going to be the Heavyweight Champion, and get paid 1.5 million dollars, then you should be giving the federation their money's worth. Guys have to learn to adapt. We've all seen that Goldberg could do the 30-second squash well. But if he's going to be a money guy, and a guy that's supposed to carry a PPV based on his name and the match he's in, then he has to realize things are going to change. He MUST take some punishment and then come back later on. He HAS to be able to put on a 15-20 minute match, which requires much more than a spear and jackhammer.

 

He has no depth, as we've seen from his fairly weak PPV singles matches with Triple H and the Rock. Yet, he refuses to attempt to change that - and that's the problem.

You do make a good point. But look at it this way. The WWE knew he couldn't work. The WWE knew he wasn't the biggest draw in the world. The WWE knew he couldn't hang in the ring with Angle, Benoit, etc. It's THEIR fault, not Goldberg's. They are not booking him correctly, and he has been exposed because of the guys he is working with. Also, if they aren't gonna build him up as a total badass that destroys everything in his way, RELEASE HIM!

[EdwardKnoxII 0]

If you're going to be the Heavyweight Champion, and get paid 1.5 million dollars, then you should be giving the federation their money's worth. Guys have to learn to adapt. We've all seen that Goldberg could do the 30-second squash well. But if he's going to be a money guy, and a guy that's supposed to carry a PPV based on his name and the match he's in, then he has to realize things are going to change. He MUST take some punishment and then come back later on. He HAS to be able to put on a 15-20 minute match, which requires much more than a spear and jackhammer.

 

How the hell is he going to carry a PPV when it's built around a guy that isn't there? I mean after Goldberg won the belt the angle was HHH saying that he was going to get his belt back and hell he was gone for most of the time and yet they still built alot of the show around him and then he comes in and wins the belt.

 

He doesn't have a problem taking punishment he's done that before but, I think he's mad about how he's book when it comes to HHH.

[Guest wrestlingbs]

Usually I would attack Goldberg for saying this but considering he jobbed his title out to HHH for no reason I can understand his frustration.

[2GOLD 0]

I'm with him on all of it except the money issue. The rest, I can understand his obvious frustration and I have to wonder if he has a problem with this if he loses to Kane.

[TheFranchise 0]

I still wanna know why they suspended him for 30 days? Does he have something else going on?

 

I know he was suppose to work some matches in Japan. When is that?

Spelling -

 

Hannukah

 

However it's spelled, maybe Goldberg doesn't want to work around this time?

[Guest OnlyMe]

Hmm... I wrote this post as a thread opening, not realising this thread was already going. As such, some of the explanation at the start is un-needed, but I can't be bothered with more editing...

 

Do you know what annoys me?

 

Word backstage in WWE is that Goldberg is once again very unhappy with how he is being used by the company. Most feel that he is mainly unhappy because he had to drop the World Title to Triple H at Armageddon. While that might have something to do with his frustration, sources indicate that he is really unhappy over WWE not booking his character properly.

 

In WCW, Goldberg was pushed as more dominant than all his opponents, while in WWE he is often beaten down for much of a match before making a comeback.

 

Goldberg met with Vince McMahon at Armageddon and told him he is not happy with how he is being used. This led WWE to make many changes to RAW on Monday. The entire Goldberg/La Resistance angle was added to the show as a last minute attempt to please Goldberg.

 

Goldberg is also apparently unhappy that he is "only" being paid his $1.5 million dollar downside deal and not getting any bonuses. Of course, WWE is not really giving many bonuses to any wrestler since business is down..

 

La Resistance debuted earlier this year in some sort of clever political commentary about France's reaction to the war in Iraq. They played on the stereotypical "evil foreigner" gimmick, and pretty much sucked. Green does not begin to explain how basic they were in the ring.

 

But WWE persevered with them, giving them a three month reign with the tag titles (winning them off Kane and RVD, no less), and holding them until being beaten by the Dudley Boyz.

 

Yet they still remained pretty unover. WWE kept pushing them here and there – half the time they were seen as something as a threat (by WWE, at least; in the same way they push Mark Henry as one.) Some weeks, they were put into a position of looking strong and kicking some ass, but other weeks they were complete bitches.

 

Remember last week, when the Rock put them over? That ruled. The Rock does that a lot – look at his segments with the Hurricane. But then for everyone that Rock builds up, someone has to crash them down.

 

Bill Goldberg

 

I present Dames recap of the segment:

 

La Resistance comes to the ring for a match, but decide to get on THE STICK~! first. Dupree does a majority of the mic work, telling the fans that their precious “Rocky” will not be here tonight, since La Resistance gave him a major beating. He did, however, say something that really bothered them. They want to make it perfectly clear that they are not “Fi Fi” in anyway. Conway then compares Foley to America: “loud, obnoxious and always sticking it’s nose where it doesn’t belong”.

 

I’m surprised they didn’t mention the capture of Saddam Hussein at all.

 

Anyway, Goldberg’s music starts up and the former champion heads to the ring with a purpose. Conway looks to meet him head on, using the French flag as a weapon, but gets kicked down by Goldberg. He comes into the ring and immediately spears the hell out of Dupree, only for Conway to come in and get speared as well. Goldberg picks up Conway’s limp body and delivers the Jackhammer (although he almost lost him in mid air) to a big pop. Goldberg picks up the French flag and walks over to a “fan” who just HAPPENED to have an American flag with them. Goldberg breaks the French flag over his knee and waves around the US Flag in the ring to a pop.

 

So Goldberg has kicked up his fuss about being made to look like just any wrestler. He's probably right to do that. His aura was always "come out, kick ass, go home." But that just doesn't fly in WWE – there's no way that they are going to send out HHH, Kane or anyone to be squashed by him. Actually, you can easily tell the expendable people, because they HAVE been squashed.

 

He's only ever gotten over in that one way, because that's all WCW needed to do. They had a million people from the powerplant that nobody cared about, all getting a two minute beating every week.

 

WWE have asked him to wrestle 15-20 minute matches, and he can't do it. Consistently, cannot do it. His Backlash debut against the Rock was all stalling, and the match with Jericho was carried well by the Canadian. It's been shown over and over that his moveset is extremely limited, and that he doesn't do psychology. It's always spear, jackhammer pin. Never any deviation – except that if he's working a longer match, he'll do the "spear the ringpost" spot.

 

So anyway, he's not happy. And WWE just cave into him, writing this segment at the last moment. Obviously, I don't know how much of the segment was originally in the script, and how much was added in, but I think that Goldy was going to be suspended anyway, just for beating up the Coach.

 

Adding in the crap with La Resistance was stupid – he's squashed both of them, and made them both look like useless cunts. These guys are former tag champions, and WWE had enough faith in them to push them. Yet one complaint from Goldberg and they are suddenly expendable? What the hell is that all about?

 

It's ugly, ugly politics. Does this mean that every time he has some sort of complaint he'll go running to Vince McMahon and get a rewrite? I don't even think his complaint is that valid; HHH jobbed cleanly to him, and it's not a lot to ask to y'know, return the job. No other superstar seems to have a problem with it. But of course – that destroys his magical, mystical aura.

 

If the La Resistance segment was planned well in advance, and actually led somewhere, I can't see much problem with it. Sure, it tied into this ludicrous suspension storyline (which could be a cheap way to get him onto SmackDown! to feud with Brock), but that's just another shitty storyline in a long sequence. They wrote it at the last minute – shit, I doubt they really know where they are going with it. It won't lead to a feud (and if it does, it'll be a bunch of shitty sneak attacks, followed by Goldberg squashing them.)

 

It's ridiculous to do this for him; at the end of the day he's the employee of a company, and he's the one calling the shots?

 

Pathetic.

 

 

Nik

[Guest Salacious Crumb]

He has every right to be upset. Despite being the champ he was subject to being one upped by the likes of Mark Henry more than once and the whole time he was overshadowed by Triple H and seen as nothing but a transitional champ.

[Guest Goodear]

*** Goldberg met with Vince McMahon at Armageddon and told him he is not happy with how he is being used. This led WWE to make many changes to RAW on Monday. ***

 

No see folks, this is what a wrestler SHOULD DO if he has a problem in the way is being booked. He should go to Vince and talk about the damn issue instead of going on some radio show and talking crap.

 

Goldberg, as is typical of him, treats wrestling like a business and in a business-like way goes to his superior and asks for changes to be made. He doesn't run out of the company. He goes to the boss and tries to make changes internally. That... makes... sense.

 

 

 

As an aside, is it me or did Conway and Dupree only get better once the uber push ended? Odd.

[Jobber of the Week 0]

FUCK OFF, GOLDBERG

 

he is "only" being paid his $1.5 million

 

[Guest Salacious Crumb]

I think Conway is the sole reason Le Res is semi-entertaining now.

[Downhome 0]

For those pissing on Goldberg over this, what the fuck do you expect? It's better that someone like him complain when he IS being used like bullshit instead of just sitting there and taking it over and over again.

 

I think it's stupid for him to complain about a bonus if no one else is getting anything like that (I doubt that though), but in terms of him being pissed and raising his voice about how shitty he's being used, then all I have to say is "Go Goldberg".

[Downhome 0]

*** Goldberg met with Vince McMahon at Armageddon and told him he is not happy with how he is being used. This led WWE to make many changes to RAW on Monday. ***

 

No see folks, this is what a wrestler SHOULD DO if he has a problem in the way is being booked. He should go to Vince and talk about the damn issue instead of going on some radio show and talking crap.

EXACTLY!

[Jobber of the Week 0]

THe fact of the matter guys that the WWE ISN'T booking Goldberg right and he has a right to be mad. Which I know everyone is going to bitch about. And the sad thing is bitching is what he's going to have to do.

If "booking him right" means letting the whole universe revolve around him, why don't people get in their heads and realize that WCW essentially booked him incorrectly? They booked him in a method that made great short-term gain but exploited the gullibility of their fans.

 

His matches have gotten BETTER since he's been forced to sell and take a beating before dishing out his usual offense.

[Guest Trivia247]

these are brown...I Specifically asked...

 

FOR GREEN!

 

as soon as Goldberg loses the title he goes in Bitch mode.

 

he seemed only to tolerate the company once he is champion but when he is not and he is nor Mr. Squash o Matic then he is not being used properly.

[Downhome 0]

To me "booking him right" means just that, BOOKING HIM RIGHT. I'm not saying they should have Goldberg go out there and steamroll over every midcarder there is in WWE, then win the WWE title, and do all of this all the while never being beat down and destroyed himself.

 

To "book him right" to me just means what it means with anyone else on the roster. Give the guys material to work with that fingerpoints their strongpoints. Give them a meaningfull storyline which will allow the fans to really get into. Put some damn thought into what you present on TV and PPV when dealing with everyone.

 

Since Goldberg has been in WWE, there are few times that he's been presented in the right way. To be honest, he hasn't been given a truely great storyline to this day to work with. Ok, so he fights HHH, great. He wins the title (the way he won the title from the heelish HHH, that was gold I will admit). When he had the title though, they didn't do shit with any storyline, they didn't put any thought into it. Goldberg/Kane could have been a golden storyline for both guys if they put a bit of thought into it...it should have lasted untill the Royal Rumble. Instead, they insert HHH (a guy who wasn't on the shows most of the time for the past two months durring Goldberg's reign as champ), and just have him up and beat Goldberg in a three way match with Kane in there. Sure, Goldberg/Kane may go to the Royal Rumble still, but it isn't the same now, they've already killed the starting point for the storyline, that being that Kane wanted the title from Goldberg since he'd beat everyone else he faced.

 

I'm not a HHH hater, you all know that. But the onscreen booking of the Goldberg/HHH/Kane "storyline" (of what little there was), simply was very bad work by the writing team. Goldberg has every right to complain about stuff like that, everyone else should do so when we are given lazy booking such as that.

 

I'm not against HHH winning the title back even, it's simply the way everyone was presented, and the way it was done.

[Spaceman Spiff 0]

Adding in the crap with La Resistance was stupid – he's squashed both of them, and made them both look like useless cunts. These guys are former tag champions, and WWE had enough faith in them to push them

Isn't that (more or less) what Rock did to them, too? Castrated them on the mic, then single-handedly beat them both up? How did Rock put them over?

 

As an aside, is it me or did Conway and Dupree only get better once the uber push ended? Odd.

Maybe Grenier was the weak link?

[Guest OnlyMe]

Isn't that (more or less) what Rock did to them, too? Castrated them on the mic, then single-handedly beat them both up? How did Rock put them over?

 

Hmm, you'd be right on that one. I swear that he built them up and then put them down, which is still not ideal. But yes, you're right - La Resistance have become Main Event Wrestler's Bitches

[bobobrazil1984 0]

Fuck Vince McMahon for giving Goldberg creative control over his character. Seriously, it's his own fault. What kind of moron does that?

[notJames 0]

As an aside, is it me or did Conway and Dupree only get better once the uber push ended? Odd.

Maybe Grenier was the weak link?

No maybes about it.

 

And personally, Goldberg needs to learn to wrestle before he can bitch about how he's being used as a wrestler. The champion of a wrestling roster should be the best "wrestler". Granted, RAW hasn't exactly stuck to that edict for the longest time (**cough**Bloated H**cough**), but no way should people have to shell out $35 bones for a PPV headlined by a guy who is only effective in minute-long squashes. Charisma and presence can only go far if you can't deliver the goods in the ring.

 

Fuck, why do I even care? It's only the fake RAW belt.

 

Stupid humans.

[AlwaysPissedOff 0]

Fuck Vince McMahon for giving Goldberg creative control over his character. Seriously, it's his own fault. What kind of moron does that?

Hmmmm... maybe Vince McMahon?

 

He's been doing it long before Goldberg got there(Hogan, Bret, Austin, maybe even HBK).

 

 

As for Goldberg bitching about how he's booked: He has every right to, plain and simple. Personal dislike for him aside, I'd rather have a guy who's vocal about how badly his character is being written and will actually tell you about it to your face than to have some pussy who won't say shit and just does whatever's told to him.

[Jobber of the Week 0]

When he had the title though, they didn't do shit with any storyline, they didn't put any thought into it.

Hey now, I liked the bounty storyline. It just didn't go as far as it should have.

[Guest BionicRedneck]

Right, so Goldberg not being booked properly + him (allegedly) complaining about it + this coming from 1.con = FUCK GOLDBERG?

 

Just checking...

[Guest Goodear]

And personally, Goldberg needs to learn to wrestle before he can bitch about how he's being used as a wrestler. The champion of a wrestling roster should be the best "wrestler". Granted, RAW hasn't exactly stuck to that edict for the longest time (**cough**Bloated H**cough**), but no way should people have to shell out $35 bones for a PPV headlined by a guy who is only effective in minute-long squashes. Charisma and presence can only go far if you can't deliver the goods in the ring.

 

WAHHHHHHHHHHH? This is about the most smart markiest thing I ever did see. Never has the World Championship of any federation ever gone to a guy because he was the most talented guy on the roster. NEVER. It might have coincided that the guy who had the belt was the best worker but its because they connected with the audience on some level that the person was given a title belt.

 

Charisma and pressence are EVERYTHING in wrestling. EVERYTHING. All money making champions in the world made the dough because on a level, people either liked them or hated them enough to come and see them. Thats the fact. Don't give me this 'best wrestler should be champ' junk.