Masked Man of Mystery Posted December 22, 2003 Report Posted December 22, 2003 What if the WWF/E/I don't care anymore bought some time during either Saturday mornings or like early afternoons, like 12 Eastern ish, and took all the Cruiserweighst and put them on that show? Obviously, you can't have the kind of angles they've been running recently(ie Kane burning JR et all) but you have some simple storylines running, and let the cruisers run wild, and kids can watch, because you intentionally make sure this is kid friendly, and not only do the cruisers get to to do their thing, you now get a HUGE marketing thing going because kids will buy Rey Mysterios masks and action figures and Ultimo action figures(Rey may well be the most kid friendly person in the organization right now) and whatever and HH won't have a threat to to his belt because you'd have a cruiser singles and tag team belts and you could bring in all kinds of international talent and it won't matter if they can speak English because it won't be necessary and I think the majority of the hardcore wrestlign fans would tune in too. Heck, if it worked in the 80s why can't it work now?
Enigma Posted December 22, 2003 Report Posted December 22, 2003 It'll never happen because Vince McMahon's philosophy is that regular or small-sized guys will not ever draw money in any way.
Red Baron Posted December 22, 2003 Report Posted December 22, 2003 unless stamped HOSS~! Approval, it won't happen.
Guest Douche Posted December 22, 2003 Report Posted December 22, 2003 They did this with SuperAstros and I loved it. They got rid of the show though
Austin3164life Posted December 22, 2003 Report Posted December 22, 2003 Are there enough Cruiserweights to actually constitute a regular show that is child-friendly? I can think of Rey, Ultimo, Tajiri, Funaki, Knoble, Chavo (somewhat), Spanky, Paul London, Gowen (if he even counts), and that's it.
ChrisMWaters Posted December 22, 2003 Report Posted December 22, 2003 Are there enough Cruiserweights to actually constitute a regular show that is child-friendly? I can think of Rey, Ultimo, Tajiri, Funaki, Knoble, Chavo (somewhat), Spanky, Paul London, Gowen (if he even counts), and that's it. Nunzio I think you missed. And I'm sure they could bring some indy guys in. ...hell, what's Nova doing? EDIT: Also, for more fun, if they got him out of tag matches put Scotty 2 Hotty there. He IS a former Light-Heavyweight Champion, after all.
Toxxic Posted December 22, 2003 Report Posted December 22, 2003 You don't think that sticking the Cruisers all on one show wouldn't make the gulf between them and the people Vince sees as "real" wrestlers even bigger than it is now? Yeah the show might be fun but what you'd basically be saying is "you can't draw money or compete with the big boys - have your own pint-sized playground and leave the real storylines (read: Sable dancing) for the real wrestlers". I'd watch it, but I can't help but think that it would forever remove even the slightest possibility that a cruiser could go on to be world champion some day, or even be taken remotely seriously as a title threat.
Guest Loss Posted December 22, 2003 Report Posted December 22, 2003 New Japan juniors are separated, and in cases like Fujinami or Otani, they've eventually gone heavyweight. Typically, the wrestlers are going to make a name for themselves against wrestlers of equal size who can play to their strengths, at least the smaller wrestlers. If at that point, the audience demand is there for them to wrestle heavyweights, then nothing says they have to stay in the cruiser division forever. There you go. I don't know about a separate show, just because that would make them all come across as a sideshow attraction instead of real competitors, but running tournaments to legitimize them and give them prestige would be a good idea.
Guest Brian Posted December 22, 2003 Report Posted December 22, 2003 It's all a matter of how you present them. If you downplay it, they're going to sink. But if you give them the time to shine, use it to build them up, and let them have cross-over success when they're ready, they'll do just fine.
DCMaximo Posted December 23, 2003 Report Posted December 23, 2003 Are there enough Cruiserweights to actually constitute a regular show that is child-friendly? I can think of Rey, Ultimo, Tajiri, Funaki, Knoble, Chavo (somewhat), Spanky, Paul London, Gowen (if he even counts), and that's it. How about Billy Kidman? How dull must he be to hold the Cruiserweight belt and STILL have people forget about him. Oh, and there is also Shannon Moore, but I suppose he's busy being a hoss' bitch
Masked Man of Mystery Posted December 23, 2003 Author Report Posted December 23, 2003 Well, I think the majority of the hardcore fans(and maybe some puro fans if they could get some nice talent) would watch it, and well, the marks would probably stick with the Hoss brigade
jester Posted December 23, 2003 Report Posted December 23, 2003 They should have a morning show to try to hook a younger audience, whether they stack it with cruisers or hosses or whatever. They should be at work on the next generation of WWE fans. I first got hooked watching Saturday Morning JObber Squash or whatever the hell it was called.
Guest Trivia247 Posted December 23, 2003 Report Posted December 23, 2003 it's a gamble. we all assume that Vince is overly bias about the Cruiserweights that he is unfairly holding them down. however if you do have a show that is all cruiserweights, like Raw and Smackdown it would also be a arena event with people buying the tickets from that town.. if the show had the usual amount of viewers it would be good for the cruiserweights. but Vince believes that if you put on just Cruisers you won't get the numbers of people you would with the Hosses as well, at least the headliners Because of their lack of exposure the cruisers are not well known enough for a whole town to buy tickets for..
Sonic Reducer Posted December 23, 2003 Report Posted December 23, 2003 it's a gamble. we all assume that Vince is overly bias about the Cruiserweights that he is unfairly holding them down. however if you do have a show that is all cruiserweights, like Raw and Smackdown it would also be a arena event with people buying the tickets from that town.. if the show had the usual amount of viewers it would be good for the cruiserweights. but Vince believes that if you put on just Cruisers you won't get the numbers of people you would with the Hosses as well, at least the headliners Because of their lack of exposure the cruisers are not well known enough for a whole town to buy tickets for.. Nice signature.
Guest Korgath Posted December 29, 2003 Report Posted December 29, 2003 I don't know how big Mucha Lucha is over in the States... but HEY... there's an idea.
MarvinisaLunatic Posted December 29, 2003 Report Posted December 29, 2003 maybe while they are at it they can land a 30 minute sitcom or something featuring McMahons so they can keep them off the wrestling programs unless its absolutely necessary.
Steviekick Posted December 29, 2003 Report Posted December 29, 2003 They should be at work on the next generation of WWE fans. I first got hooked watching Saturday Morning JObber Squash or whatever the hell it was called. Same here. The Saturday morning shows are a great way of getting kids interested in their programming and product. I don't think it should necessarily be just SD's cruiserweights, but they could use undercarders from both Raw and SD. Hurricane is fairly kid friendly, too.
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