Cartman 0 Report post Posted January 2, 2004 You should care about Tenn/Balt. I think the Pats play the winner of that. Don't they? No, if Denver wins we play them, if Indy wins we play winner of Tenn/Balt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted January 2, 2004 "I wouldn't be complaining if you guys weren't acting like completely brain dead fanboy morons about this" I'm just going to stand back in awe of this piece of irony and let Dama's posting over the last month in this folder complete the joke. Wake the fuck up BPS. You guys are saying that the winner of the Sugar Bowl doesn't matter because of the performance that USC has given tonight. You aren't even paying attention to what is going to happen on Sunday. You're basically ignoring two very good teams because you think that the BCS is unfair. WHY IS THE BCS SO UNFAIR AND THE COACHES AND AP ARE SO FAIR!? HUH!? IF THE BCS CAN GET #1 WRONG THEN WHY CAN'T THE COACHES AND AP!? WHAT MAKES THEM SO FUCKING GREAT!? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted January 2, 2004 Dama, the less you whine NOW the less its going to feel embarrassing when LSU beats the spit outta OU. I don't care if LSU beats the spit out of Oklahoma. Why? Because if they do that then they DESERVE to be called the National Champion. But since everyone is so hard into this "BCS is unfair! Fuck the Sugar Bowl!" bullshit they aren't going to get there credit. Why? Because everyone can't just fucking sit back and go "Well we have two national champions. Two teams were that good." That's because sports fans aren't conditioned to think that way. Name me one other league in one other sport where two teams can split a league championship. No you have to go "USC #1! WHOOO! They're the best! Despite the fact that they lost to an unranked team in the season while OU and LSU both lost to ranked teams!" Again, for full disclosure...one by four touchdowns in the biggest game of their season, and the other by 12 on their home field to an UNRANKED team at the time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted January 2, 2004 Wake the fuck up BPS. I love the smell of BAN in the morning... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted January 2, 2004 Hey do you notice that teke184, our resident LSU fan, hasn't done any complaining about USC being declared national champ by all of us no matter what LSU does? Maybe you should follow their lead and not whine about it and just let things play out, k? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hogan Made Wrestling 0 Report post Posted January 2, 2004 "I wouldn't be complaining if you guys weren't acting like completely brain dead fanboy morons about this" I'm just going to stand back in awe of this piece of irony and let Dama's posting over the last month in this folder complete the joke. Wake the fuck up BPS. You guys are saying that the winner of the Sugar Bowl doesn't matter because of the performance that USC has given tonight. You aren't even paying attention to what is going to happen on Sunday. You're basically ignoring two very good teams because you think that the BCS is unfair. WHY IS THE BCS SO UNFAIR AND THE COACHES AND AP ARE SO FAIR!? HUH!? IF THE BCS CAN GET #1 WRONG THEN WHY CAN'T THE COACHES AND AP!? WHAT MAKES THEM SO FUCKING GREAT!? Just so you know Damaramu, I'm 100% with you. After years of split national champions in the pols with relatively little complaint, I wonder why there is such a big outrage now because for the first time ever the BCS system has done what the AP and coaches were doing for years on their own? Frankly, I'm tired of seeing stuff like Michigan and Nebraska or Penn State and Nebraska both going undefeated and then the Big 10 team gets screwed by playing Oregon or Wazoo in the Rose Bowl while Nebraska gets to play a top 3 team when they should be matched up with each other in a battle of undefeated teams. I'll live with split national champs in years where no team is good enough to go undefeated if it means when 2 teams do go undefeated we are guaranteed a matchup to determine the undisputed, undefeated national champion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted January 2, 2004 Wake the fuck up BPS. I love the smell of BAN in the morning... Oh so I can be flamebaited by ANKLELOCK and Cartman and have BPS making fun of me but the moment I talk back I'm banned? Yeah that's fair. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted January 2, 2004 Wake the fuck up BPS. I love the smell of BAN in the morning... Oh so I can be flamebaited by ANKLELOCK and Cartman and have BPS making fun of me but the moment I talk back I'm banned? Yeah that's fair. You need to calm down. You're the only one in here screaming and swearing at mods. Remember, it's only flamebaiting if you fall for the bait. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Ghost of bps21 0 Report post Posted January 2, 2004 Well the human part of me doesn't care how you post in response to me... but I'll have to check with the computer before I make a definitive decision. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted January 2, 2004 Hey do you notice that teke184, our resident LSU fan, hasn't done any complaining about USC being declared national champ by all of us no matter what LSU does? Maybe you should follow their lead and not whine about it and just let things play out, k? Well maybe he doesn't have as much pride in his team as I do in mine. Or maybe he's not getting as annoyed by the fact that everyone is writing his team off as nothing. I'm seeing you guys opinions as a reflection of the real world. Because you're real people in the real world. So if you think this then it's a good chance that the rest of America does to. I would shut up if everyone would give OU and LSU there due. But nobody is. It's all "USC is the National Champions! LSwho? Owho?" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted January 2, 2004 Well the human part of me doesn't care how you post in response to me... but I'll have to check with the computer before I make a definitive decision. Solid Gold. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted January 2, 2004 Let's say that OU and LSU go out there and have THE BEST college football game this year(which will probably happen) and just totally blow everyone out of the water with their performance. What will you say then? "Who cares? USC is the champions!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted January 2, 2004 Let's say that OU and LSU go out there and have THE BEST college football game this year(which will probably happen) and just totally blow everyone out of the water with their performance. What will you say then? "Who cares? USC is the champions!" If it's the best game of the year, it will be a close game. If the #2 or #3 team barely beats the other in a very close game, and the #1 team decisively and thoroughly beats the #4 team, there's no doubt in my mind who the champion is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted January 2, 2004 Let's say that OU and LSU go out there and have THE BEST college football game this year(which will probably happen) and just totally blow everyone out of the water with their performance. What will you say then? "Who cares? USC is the champions!" If it's the best game of the year, it will be a close game. If the #2 or #3 team barely beats the other in a very close game, and the #1 team decisively and thoroughly beats the #4 team, there's no doubt in my mind who the champion is. See that's complete bullshit. Because they are playing great college football. If they had the best game ever then they had the best game ever. And it was because both teams were THAT good. To say "Well they didn't blow the other one out. So fuck them." is beyond me. And if you guys can pull this "Winner of the Sugar Bowl isn't the champion" BS then I can just as easily say that USC isn't shit. The real #1 and #2 teams are going to play for the National Title. The ones where every factor is being played and not just the whim of a biased writer or coach. USC is the Co-National Champion but the other National Champion will be decided on Sunday. The better half of that title. Wow it's fun to make unfounded claims like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Ghost of bps21 0 Report post Posted January 2, 2004 I'll make this simple. I don't believe Oklahoma belongs in the National Title game. Therefore... if Oklahoma wins...they are #2 to me. If LSU wins...there's a split in my mind because the top 2 teams (in my mind, the coach's mind and the writer's minds) didn't get to play each other. If LSU does win...the BCS will have been a disaster. They'll end up with the same top 2 teams that everyone else had BEFORE the bowls...and the Bowls attempt to crown a national champion will have been wasted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted January 2, 2004 I'll make this simple. I don't believe Oklahoma belongs in the National Title game. Therefore... if Oklahoma wins...they are #2 to me. If LSU wins...there's a split in my mind because the top 2 teams (in my mind, the coach's mind and the writer's minds) didn't get to play each other. If LSU does win...the BCS will have been a disaster. They'll end up with the same top 2 teams that everyone else had BEFORE the bowls...and the Bowls attempt to crown a national champion will have been wasted. If you don't think OU belongs then you are more ignorant than I thought. OU had the best season out of all 3 teams. Yes they lost in there last game and they lost pretty badly. But everyone else lost to. Oklahoma had the toughest schedule and played the best football out of all 3 teams. Oklahoma's players won the most awards because they were the best players in the country. If you think OU doesn't belong then you really are biased. You guys are hopeless. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted January 2, 2004 Let's say that OU and LSU go out there and have THE BEST college football game this year(which will probably happen) and just totally blow everyone out of the water with their performance. What will you say then? "Who cares? USC is the champions!" If it's the best game of the year, it will be a close game. If the #2 or #3 team barely beats the other in a very close game, and the #1 team decisively and thoroughly beats the #4 team, there's no doubt in my mind who the champion is. See that's complete bullshit. Because they are playing great college football. If they had the best game ever then they had the best game ever. And it was because both teams were THAT good. To say "Well they didn't blow the other one out. So fuck them." is beyond me. See, now you're not even thinking rationally. This isn't figure skating. There aren't any style points. I'm not judging how artistic and aesthetically pleasing the game is. So it was a great game -- so what?? The final fact is, one of those teams barely beat the other, while the team above both of them had no trouble beating a comparable opponent. That team must be better. Until you decide to open up your mind even THISMUCH, I'm done with you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted January 2, 2004 If you think OU doesn't belong then you really are biased. I wish there was playoffs for college 1-A football. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted January 2, 2004 Ok that's it. You guys are hopeless. It's like arguing with a brick wall. I'm going to get banned if I don't quit posting here. But I can't help myself........is there a club for people like me? Dammit.....I think my blood pressure has risen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted January 2, 2004 Just a quick question: What does it matter if LSU/OU is the best game ever? I am sure there have been games where two losing teams play each other, yet it is a great game. Are we supposed to give them a trophy for it? And to even suggest that teke doesn't have as much pride in his team as you have in yours, just because he hasn't ranted and raved the last month about "OMG WTF YOUZ LYKE USC", is a disgrace. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted January 2, 2004 Hey do you notice that teke184, our resident LSU fan, hasn't done any complaining about USC being declared national champ by all of us no matter what LSU does? Maybe you should follow their lead and not whine about it and just let things play out, k? Wait a minute. This thread was started to call USC the National Champions. Even before the Sugar Bowl is played. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Ghost of bps21 0 Report post Posted January 2, 2004 If you don't think OU belongs then you are more ignorant than I thought. Yep. Me, the coaches and the writers. We're all ignorant. And you, the guy with the Sooners in your avatar...your the unbiased objective one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted January 2, 2004 I'm completely unbiased cause I don't like any of the three and even I will give congrats to USC on being National Champions. They have split the BCS so badly that Lloyd Carr said if he could he would vote for USC in the coaches bowl. I feel bad for both OU and LSU cause no matter what, this season is filled with controversy. And I feel bad for USC cause they will be national champions* instead of National Champions. I don't know about the rest of you, but I respect the AP more than I ever respected the BCS computer since the BCS feels the MAC, PAC 10 and a few other conferences are just cupcake conferences. It's not right to those conferences (especially the PAC 10, which has kicked some bowl rear so far), and it's not right to any of the conferences. The computers opinion on the MAC and PAC 10 hasn't changed in four years despite the fact the PAC 10 and MAC have been truly amazing. No matter what, we will have split national champions. And the worst nightmare for the BCS has started, and it would end if OU gets blown out by 18 (not gonna happen but it would be the ultimate nightmare). Sadly, OU deserved this shot but they are looked at as undeserving because the system is extremely flawed so if they get blown out they will be the rally cry for the complete destruction of the BCS. They will be Nebraska in the Nebraska vs Miami "title game". And no, the writers shouldn't have to move USC out of #1. They crushed Michigan, they ripped the Wolverines heads off and handed it to Lloyd Carr. No matter what, the national title will be SPLIT in two....AGAIN. So congrats to USC and congrats to whoever wins on Sunday. You will be the *National Champions of 2003. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hogan Made Wrestling 0 Report post Posted January 2, 2004 The way people are going on you would think a split national championship has never happened and is the worst thing in history when the pollsters managed to generate multiple occurences of them in the 1990s alone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted January 2, 2004 The way people are going on you would think a split national championship has never happened and is the worst thing in history when the pollsters managed to generate multiple occurences of them in the 1990s alone. The point is the BCS was supposed to prevent this, it failed and now two schools will have to split the title again. Div 1 college football needs to get with the times, incorporate the bowls into a playoff system that gives all the confernce winners a bid and let it be decided where it was meant to be decided. You can still have minor bowl games in the daytime with the major games involving the tournament at night. The split title was supposed to be prevented. We know it has happened before and that is the problem with it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted January 2, 2004 I don't know about the rest of you, but I respect the AP more than I ever respected the BCS computer since the BCS feels the MAC, PAC 10 and a few other conferences are just cupcake conferences. It's not right to those conferences (especially the The AP doesn't care about mid major schools. If they did than Miami of Ohio, and Boise St. would of been high enough in the polls to earn births in the BCS bowl. Remember, the two polls do play a role in the BCS rankings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted January 2, 2004 I don't know about the rest of you, but I respect the AP more than I ever respected the BCS computer since the BCS feels the MAC, PAC 10 and a few other conferences are just cupcake conferences. It's not right to those conferences (especially the The AP doesn't care about mid major schools. If they did than Miami of Ohio, and Boise St. would of been high enough in the polls to earn births in the BCS bowl. Remember, the two polls do play a role in the BCS rankings. Actually, I meant in the SOS is where they get screwed. And TCU was moving up fast in the AP POLL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Sandusky 0 Report post Posted January 2, 2004 Man, they should have gotten him when he wasn't smiling in such an... odd manner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crimson Platypus 0 Report post Posted January 2, 2004 The point is the BCS was supposed to prevent this, it failed and now two schools will have to split the title again. Div 1 college football needs to get with the times, incorporate the bowls into a playoff system that gives all the confernce winners a bid and let it be decided where it was meant to be decided. You can still have minor bowl games in the daytime with the major games involving the tournament at night. The split title was supposed to be prevented. We know it has happened before and that is the problem with it. Easiest way to do this is to have the top 4 teams play in the "bowl games" on Jan 1st. Then create a "BCS Championship sponsored by BCS" game on the following Sunday that involves the winners of the two games. Still get BCS rankings, and the bowl games, plus there is one clear cut winner and all the bitching gets reduced. (never get rid of it) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites