Youth N Asia 0 Report post Posted January 15, 2004 I understand why the "over the top rope" rule is in the rumble. But it shouldn't give the workers a free trip to slid under the rope, do God knows what outside, and then get back in when they feel like it. In the 99 Rumble I could take the fact that Austin or Vince was for sure going to win the rumble, you can always narrow the rumble down to 1-4 guys who will for sure win. But the match was completly ruined and had all the drama taken out by Austin and Vince leaving the ring, doing commentary, and running through the arena. I can take someone getting knocked through the ropes and coming back in. But they have to stop this outside the ring shit they've been overdoing the last few years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted January 15, 2004 They should suspend the ring right above a huge pool filled with hungry sharks. Whoever leaves the ring is dinner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LooseCannon25 0 Report post Posted January 15, 2004 I'm sorry.....i don't understand what you're trying to say............Do you mean that brawling outside and stuff should be cut down during the Rumble match? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Youth N Asia 0 Report post Posted January 15, 2004 I'm saying the workers shouldn't slid out under the rope every few minutes and slid back in later. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deancoles 0 Report post Posted January 15, 2004 I just don't want people to run in causing their target to be thrown over the top rope by another guy(see last year with Y2J and HBK) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LooseCannon25 0 Report post Posted January 15, 2004 I agree..........and I don't think a guy who's no longer in the match or not involved should be able to eliminate someone Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FrigidSoul Report post Posted January 15, 2004 Give a bunch of 10 year olds sugar up the wha-zoo, then dress them in riot gear and have them stand outside of the ring. Billy clubs to the head for whoever slides out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slingshot Suplex 0 Report post Posted January 15, 2004 I agree..........and I don't think a guy who's no longer in the match or not involved should be able to eliminate someone THAT is the one that bothers me. Someone who is already eliminated shouldn't be allowed to pull someone else out...causing their elimination. I know it builds heat on someone or a feud but...have some set of rules. If they're causing a distraction...I can live with that..but not physically pulling them out. It shouldn't be total chaos. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HollywoodSpikeJenkins 0 Report post Posted January 15, 2004 I just don't want people to run in causing their target to be thrown over the top rope by another guy(see last year with Y2J and HBK) I actually liked that. Have they ever done that before? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted January 15, 2004 Top Priorities: Eliminate non-rumble participants from being able to "eliminate" some in the rumble Once someone is eliminated, they cannot eliminate someone else. And if they try to, it is futile since the person will be let back in....... THEEEEEEEEEEEN: worry about the 20min brawls on the outside. I do agree though it is annoying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LaParkaYourCar 0 Report post Posted January 15, 2004 I just don't want people to run in causing their target to be thrown over the top rope by another guy(see last year with Y2J and HBK) I actually liked that. Have they ever done that before? That's how the 99 Rumble ended. Rock distracted Austin while Vince threw him out. Unless I misunderstood what you meant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JumpinJackFlash Report post Posted January 15, 2004 I hate it when someone is beaten up real bad by someone not in the Rumble, and not even thrown over the top rope. Yet he's eliminated! Example:Royal Rumble 93-Giant Gonzales and Undertaker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Insane Bump Machine 0 Report post Posted January 15, 2004 The problem with people leaving the ring could easily be corrected by enforcing the standard 10 count. But who counts when all the referees have to look for people's feet touching the floor...they'd need more referees. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Use Your Illusion 0 Report post Posted January 15, 2004 I'm saying the workers shouldn't slid out under the rope every few minutes and slid back in later. The word is 'slide'. Really, is it that difficult? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nl5xsk1 0 Report post Posted January 15, 2004 I actually like the idea of wrestlers sliding out of the ring. Not necessarily for an hour (e.g. Austin & Vince) but in a situatin where a heel in a huge feud slides out of the ring to avoid a face that's hellbent on kicking his ass. (e.g. Roberts & Savage from 1992) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haVoc 0 Report post Posted January 15, 2004 Does it really matter? It's usually mid-carders who have no chance in Hell of winning the Rumble who do that to each other. I mean, if Kanyon pulls Billy Gunn over the top rope from the outside do you sit there and think "fuck, I thought Gunn really had a chance of winning this thing!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted January 15, 2004 Does it really matter? It's usually mid-carders who have no chance in Hell of winning the Rumble who do that to each other. I mean, if Kanyon pulls Billy Gunn over the top rope from the outside do you sit there and think "fuck, I thought Gunn really had a chance of winning this thing!" 1989, Hogan caused the elimination of SID by pulling on his arm allowing Flair to toss him out. And there have been a few other cases of such that should have led to a feud but didn't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deancoles 0 Report post Posted January 15, 2004 Does it really matter? It's usually mid-carders who have no chance in Hell of winning the Rumble who do that to each other. I mean, if Kanyon pulls Billy Gunn over the top rope from the outside do you sit there and think "fuck, I thought Gunn really had a chance of winning this thing!" 1989, Hogan caused the elimination of SID by pulling on his arm allowing Flair to toss him out. And there have been a few other cases of such that should have led to a feud but didn't. In 1989 it was Big Bossman who Hogan pulled out,i loved how Gorilla defended Hogan and Jesse gets mad and goes on this rant about how Hogan is a cheap shot artist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Youth N Asia 0 Report post Posted January 15, 2004 I'm saying the workers shouldn't slid out under the rope every few minutes and slid back in later. The word is 'slide'. Really, is it that difficult? Wow...was that really worth the minute it took you to type that up? Very insightful and that really added to the thread...about as much as this post did. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Use Your Illusion 0 Report post Posted January 15, 2004 My pleasure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisMWaters 0 Report post Posted January 15, 2004 OK...they really got to make a Rumble Rulebook. Have the following rules: 1) Once your eliminated, you can't eliminate someone else still in the match. (like how they did with Vader in 1996) 2) People not in the Royal Rumble match can not eliminate participants in the rumble match. However, Rumble participants have Carte Blanche (spelling?) to eliminated non-participants however they feel...like Bossman to Taka Michinoku in 2000. 3) Something to clarify the self-elimination rule. Just so I feel better about that whole 1992 Rumble thing. 4) You MUST make an attempt to get to the ringside area before the count starts for the next participant, or you're automatically eliminated. That should work, shouldn't it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Amazing Rando 0 Report post Posted January 15, 2004 the thing about the 92 Rumble is... about the "self-elimination" rule...is that in one circumstance Bossman should have been allowed back in or Savage should have not been allowed back in. The problems being: 1) Had Savage not stayed in...the final four might have looked a little odd...though it would have added that dimension to his feud by having Roberts be able to say that he got under Savage's skin enough to make him eliminate himself instead of concentrating on the real objective of the match. 2) Had Bossman stayed in...it would have negated Piper being the next entrant after that because it made the fans go CRAZY that Piper would have two minutes ALONE with Flair and not worry about Bossman helping or hurting him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisMWaters 0 Report post Posted January 15, 2004 I think someone explained that to me like this Rando: Bossman was going to attack a participant still in the Rumble match, and failed, hence why he wasn't let back in. Savage on the other hand was attacking someone eliminated from the match, so he was allowed. Don't remember who said that, but that was the explaination. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Amazing Rando 0 Report post Posted January 15, 2004 i still don't like it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisMWaters 0 Report post Posted January 15, 2004 i still don't like it. Neither do I, but it's the most logical explaination. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted January 15, 2004 Was Maven ever eliminated back two years ago? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisMWaters 0 Report post Posted January 15, 2004 Was Maven ever eliminated back two years ago? If you go by the rules of Rumbles like 93 or 90...yes, by Undertaker. Going by the 96 rules, no, he wasn't. hence why he got a title shot against Jericho. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted January 15, 2004 (edited) I'm such a huge fan of Pro. Wrestling, I become a bigger fan all of the time for some reason. However, the last few years have been so forgetable for the most part, I have trouble remembering what's happened at times. Anyone else become like that over the past two or so years? I mean, I used to be able to INSTANTLY remember who all the champions are, and then could re-trace the title back to as far as I'd like. Now, it's hard to keep up with that also for me. Edited January 15, 2004 by Downhome Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted January 15, 2004 Well it's good to know you're a wrestling fan, Dh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mole 0 Report post Posted January 15, 2004 I'm such a huge fan of Pro. Wrestling, I become a bigger fan all of the time for some reason. However, the last few years have been so forgetable for the most part, I have trouble remembering what's happened at times. Anyone else become like that over the past two or so years? I mean, I used to be able to INSTANTLY remember who all the champions are, and then could re-trace the title back to as far as I'd like. Now, it's hard to keep up with that also for me. Yeah, I used to be able to track back old champions, but I can't do that anymore. And all I want for Rumble is 2 mins in between wrestlers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites