Boy in 'Wrestling Death' Freed From Jail

[Guest Ghettoman]

Can someone tell me how this kid can learn anything at all while being dead?

 

Why shouldn't life works itself out to where he learns quickly, or over time just how wrong what he did was, and ultimately pays the price for it?

 

I just think it's pathetic how some of you act like your in a position to judge on the highest level, as if you've never done anything wrong in your life, and don't give that "oh well I never killed a 6 year old girl" bullshit because that's not the point, the point is you don't draw a line and say 'thats where I'm gonna give up on humanity', it's a completely defeatist attitude and usually contradicts most of what's been said.

 

He's still alive, that means he still has a chance to become something, to do something positive for this world. But rather than suggest the world work itself out the way it does, you guys seem to think losing another life that hadn't truly started yet is the only answer to the same crime, it's hypocritical and thinking like that is gonna make sure the human race doesn't do anything too great for quite some time....Can't win a ball game if your trying to beat yourself.

[Vyce 0]

Who are you to judge him?

 

OH MY GOD.

 

This is the attitude which has done absolutely WONDERS for our society, this blissfully amoral "there is not real right & wrong" world view.

 

PLEASE.

 

Guess what? You CAN judge people, and be JUSTIFIED in doing so.

 

For example: I've never brutally murdered a 6 year old. So I feel pretty safe judging Lionel Tate.

[Guest Deebo]

I used to wrestle my 7 year old sister when I was 13 and I never killed or even hurt her. From everything I've read, this kid just beat the girl senseless and didn't care what happened. Why should he get to be out of prison living his life freely while she can't? I'm not saying kill him, but he definitely deserves life in the slammer.

[Guest MikeSC]

Can someone tell me how this kid can learn anything at all while being dead?

Funny, that 6-year old girl can't learn anymore.

Why shouldn't life works itself out to where he learns quickly, or over time just how wrong what he did was, and ultimately pays the price for it?

1) He has NEVER shown remorse.

2) I could care less if he DOES learn a lesson. He SHOULD have learned a lesson when she was screaming in pain while he was pounding on her.

The ONLY person who "ultimately paid the price" was the poor, 6-year old girl who is very much dead.

I just think it's pathetic how some of you act like your in a position to judge on the highest level

Oh sweet Christ, MORAL RELATIVISM?

 

That is SUCH a good idea there.

 

There are few more dangerous things than this "Who are you to judge?" crap.

 

I'm in a position to judge because I HAVE A FLIPPIN' CONSCIENCE.

as if you've never done anything wrong in your life, and don't give that "oh well I never killed a 6 year old girl" bullshit because that's not the point, the point is you don't draw a line and say 'thats where I'm gonna give up on humanity', it's a completely defeatist attitude and usually contradicts most of what's been said.

I give up on that thug COMPLETELY. I wash my hands of him. He wants to not be put to death? Fine. Stick him on an island so far from civilization that he can never kill anybody ever again. Allow him to live in absolute solitude for the rest of his existence.

He's still alive, that means he still has a chance to become something, to do something positive for this world.

Screw that. A little girl is dead because of him. He killed her slowly and sadistically.

But rather than suggest the world work itself out the way it does, you guys seem to think losing another life that hadn't truly started yet is the only answer to the same crime, it's hypocritical and thinking like that is gonna make sure the human race doesn't do anything too great for quite some time....Can't win a ball game if your trying to beat yourself.

I wish the thug would do us a favor, buy a gun, and take one for the team.

-=Mike

[Guest Ghettoman]

"Funny, that 6-year old girl can't learn anymore."

 

So the only answer is to ruin another life the same way. Man with thinking like that humanity is really on it's way.....

[Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes]

JSEK, the only argument left besides the he is/he isn't retarded one was the racist one, but considering I don't know of anyone's race on this message board it was weak and I pull it from conversation.

[Firestarter 0]

If you have fit and murder someone = chair.

 

If you are a retard and murder someone = chair.

I agree to such an extent that I can't even make a joke about it.

[MrRant 0]

If you have fit and murder someone = chair.

 

If you are a retard and murder someone = chair.

I agree to such an extent that I can't even make a joke about it.

If you "have fit"? Oops. Went back and editted to something that makes sense like "are fit."

[Guest MikeSC]

"Funny, that 6-year old girl can't learn anymore."

 

So the only answer is to ruin another life the same way. Man with thinking like that humanity is really on it's way.....

If somebody has the constitution to kill somebody while they're screaming at him to stop, then yes, end their lives. They are a major danger to society.

 

I know I couldn't kill somebody who was begging me to stop.

-=Mike

[Guest Ghettoman]

My sister screams for me to stop when I give her the vulcan death grip, I'm not going to assume she's asking me to stop because she's dying.

 

There's too much here you don't know that your assuming and then forming an opinion on it as if it's fact, although I'm sure writing him off as a monster is much easier that way.

 

To suggest we should give up on one life because he took another is absurd.

[NYU 0]

My sister screams for me to stop when I give her the vulcan death grip, I'm not going to assume she's asking me to stop because she's dying.

He punched her, kicked her, stomped her, threw her into a steel banister, heard her bones crack, could hear her blood-curdling screams, could see the blood streaming from her body.....and he kept going.

 

Obviously this is different than bothering your sister with a wrestling move.

 

What he did goes BEYOND just rough-housing.

 

It's murder.

 

Cold-blooded murder without remorse.

[Guest Anglesault]

He's still alive, that means he still has a chance to become something, to do something positive for this world. But rather than suggest the world work itself out the way it does, you

Wait a minute.

 

You want to put a torturer and murderer back on the streets BECAUSE THINGS WORK THEMSELVES OUT?

 

Well, dang, IT IS a wonderful life!

 

Just a question.

 

if this SCUM were to "not work things out on his own" and turn around and beat my six year old niece to death, would I have the right to judge?

 

I don't see this as giving up on humanity. He's proven conclusively that he's subhuman at best.

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

If we lived in kkk World, one of my laws would be that any politician that opposes school vouchers would have to send their kids to a D.C. public school.

 

I'm starting to think another law would be if a judge lets some "kid" like this beast out that the "child" has to live in the judge's house until he/she is 18 years old just so the judge and his/her family can personally oversee the "kiddie's" rehabilitation efforts...

[Guest Ghettoman]

I'm not saying put him back on the streets, how about a correctional facility that actually lives up to it's name. Maybe I'm going off on a different issue here but we can never suggest writing off a life before it's over is something thats ever going to be justifiable.

[Guest Anglesault]

I don't see how someone that slaughtered a little girl will ever be redeemable.

[CanadianChick 0]

Can someone tell me how this kid can learn anything at all while being dead?

Who cares what he learns? That pathetic son of a bitch shouldn't even live. This wasn't some sort of accident, like a 6 year old playing with their dad's gun and shooting another kid. This was cold blooded murder. MURDER. He is a fucking murderer. Savagely beating a 6 year old and not stopping until she dies isn't an accident. He didn't even show remorse after. He is a danger to society. He doesn't deserve another chance in life. At 13, whether you have mental problems or not, you know killing is wrong.

[Jobber of the Week 0]

If somebody has the constitution to kill somebody while they're screaming at him to stop, then yes, end their lives.

I don't think that this kid should get a chair while Charles Manson gets a life sentence.

 

 

Mental ward. 25 years.

[2GOLD 0]

If somebody has the constitution to kill somebody while they're screaming at him to stop, then yes, end their lives.

I don't think that this kid should get a chair while Charles Manson gets a life sentence.

 

 

Mental ward. 25 years.

 

I'll agree.

CIRCLE GETS THE SQUARE!

 

 

I'm not on the extreme end but...I'm really not sure letting him back out with no plans to get him help is the right way to go. I mean, his mother let him watch a six year old girl and went back to bed when she heard the girl in pain so you expect me to trust her to get him help?

 

Death? Tad extreme I suppose. Padded room for 25 years while we stare at him through a little glass window? Works for me.

[Guest MikeSC]

My sister screams for me to stop when I give her the vulcan death grip, I'm not going to assume she's asking me to stop because she's dying.

If she's bleeding and you're punching her and you don't stop, then you are an evil monster.

There's too much here you don't know that your assuming and then forming an opinion on it as if it's fact, although I'm sure writing him off as a monster is much easier that way.

There's much here I don't know?

 

He beat her SAVAGELY. Her injuries were consistent with a CAR ACCIDENT.

 

Waht, exactly, am I missing here?

To suggest we should give up on one life because he took another is absurd.

When he kills again, do you want to take responsibility for it?

-=Mike

[Guest MikeSC]

If somebody has the constitution to kill somebody while they're screaming at him to stop, then yes, end their lives.

I don't think that this kid should get a chair while Charles Manson gets a life sentence.

 

 

Mental ward. 25 years.

Hold the phone on this one.

 

Manson GOT a death sentence. People seem to forget that. He was given a death sentence.

 

He's NOT dead because the death penalty was temporarily suspended AFTER his conviction, so it was commuted to life.

 

He was never given a life sentence.

-=Mike

[Guest MikeSC]

If somebody has the constitution to kill somebody while they're screaming at him to stop, then yes, end their lives.

I don't think that this kid should get a chair while Charles Manson gets a life sentence.

 

 

Mental ward. 25 years.

Hold the phone on this one.

 

Manson GOT a death sentence. People seem to forget that. He was given a death sentence.

 

He's NOT dead because the death penalty was temporarily suspended AFTER his conviction, so it was commuted to life.

 

He was never given a life sentence.

-=Mike

[Guest Anglesault]

If somebody has the constitution to kill somebody while they're screaming at him to stop, then yes, end their lives.

I don't think that this kid should get a chair while Charles Manson gets a life sentence.

 

 

Mental ward. 25 years.

Hold the phone on this one.

 

Manson GOT a death sentence. People seem to forget that. He was given a death sentence.

 

He's NOT dead because the death penalty was temporarily suspended AFTER his conviction, so it was commuted to life.

 

He was never given a life sentence.

-=Mike

Oh, Tag.

 

I actually didn't know that.

 

Mental ward. 25 years.

 

How can we be sure the little beast will be better in 25 years?

 

I would think someone with his mindset (not stopping when his victim is screaming)has the make-up of a rapist.

[Jobber of the Week 0]

How can we be sure the little beast will be better in 25 years?

 

I would think someone with his mindset (not stopping when his victim is screaming)has the make-up of a rapist.

Sitting around watching your life waste by tends to do that.

 

And with your logic, I could say that anyone should get the death penalty. How do we know that 13 year old who shoplifted from the grocery store won't do it again in the future? Death penalty.

 

This man is jaywalking! Death penalty.

 

 

The Supreme Court is now reviewing the whole death penalty for minors thing anyway.

[Guest MikeSC]

How can we be sure the little beast will be better in 25 years?

 

I would think someone with his mindset (not stopping when his victim is screaming)has the make-up of a rapist.

Sitting around watching your life waste by tends to do that.

 

And with your logic, I could say that anyone should get the death penalty. How do we know that 13 year old who shoplifted from the grocery store won't do it again in the future? Death penalty.

 

This man is jaywalking! Death penalty.

 

 

The Supreme Court is now reviewing the whole death penalty for minors thing anyway.

Not quite able to differentiate jaywalking and shoplifting from murder, eh?

-=Mike

[Vyce 0]

How can we be sure the little beast will be better in 25 years?

 

I would think someone with his mindset (not stopping when his victim is screaming)has the make-up of a rapist.

Sitting around watching your life waste by tends to do that.

 

And with your logic, I could say that anyone should get the death penalty. How do we know that 13 year old who shoplifted from the grocery store won't do it again in the future? Death penalty.

 

This man is jaywalking! Death penalty.

 

 

The Supreme Court is now reviewing the whole death penalty for minors thing anyway.

Not quite able to differentiate jaywalking and shoplifting from murder, eh?

-=Mike

What's the difference, Mike?

 

Why, I'm sure both are the really the result of the poor child's reaction to his socioeconomic status. It wouldn't be HIS fault, you know.

[Guest MikeSC]

How can we be sure the little beast will be better in 25 years?

 

I would think someone with his mindset (not stopping when his victim is screaming)has the make-up of a rapist.

Sitting around watching your life waste by tends to do that.

 

And with your logic, I could say that anyone should get the death penalty. How do we know that 13 year old who shoplifted from the grocery store won't do it again in the future? Death penalty.

 

This man is jaywalking! Death penalty.

 

 

The Supreme Court is now reviewing the whole death penalty for minors thing anyway.

Not quite able to differentiate jaywalking and shoplifting from murder, eh?

-=Mike

What's the difference, Mike?

 

Why, I'm sure both are the really the result of the poor child's reaction to his socioeconomic status. It wouldn't be HIS fault, you know.

True.

 

Heck, should we congratulate drive-by shooters, since they also kill likely guilty people?

-=Mike

[Kahran Ramsus 0]

Justice isn't for vengeance, it is for protection. Tate clearly has no expressed any concern over the girl's death, so there is no reason that he won't do it again. I'm not calling for the kid's head, but if he isn't safe to let out on the streets, what is he doing out? Prisons are designed to protect innocent people, from people like him. If you could assure me that he is rehabilitated, then fine, but you can't, and his psychiatrists seem to say otherwise.

 

I just pray to God that no other innocents have to lose their lives or loved ones because of this.

[HollywoodSpikeJenkins 0]

How some of you can try and protect this kid makes me sick.

[MrRant 0]

They try to because they live on a "fantasy pedestal" of life. A place where they would let Ted Bundy or the Green River Killer off with only 25 years because he may be better now and he may cure cancer if only we give him the chance.

 

Only the better chance is that some unsuspecting parent lets him baby sit their child years from now after his name is somewhat forgotten and arrive home to a dead kid.

 

Fuck those people.

[Guest MikeSC]

They try to because they live on a "fantasy pedestal" of life. A place where they would let Ted Bundy or the Green River Killer off with only 25 years because he may be better now and he may cure cancer if only we give him the chance.

 

Only the better chance is that some unsuspecting parent lets him baby sit their child years from now after his name is somewhat forgotten and arrive home to a dead kid.

 

Fuck those people.

I have a simple solution to ANYBODY who opposes this sentence.

 

Let the kid live next door to you. Would you let him play with your kids?

 

If not, why in the heck would you condemn others to that fate?

-=Mike