The Smark Double Standard

[Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes]

And Matt got de-pushed straight to hell.

 

First, they get rid of his cool ass V1 t-shirts in favor of those puke colored girly ones. Christ, if they cared about him they would have SEEN the V1 shirts in the crowd and not cancel the damn thing.

 

Second, they slice down his entrance so he can't get face pops

 

And then, they bumble the turn on Lita. I mean, she is one of the most over females in the company so turning on her could have been HUGE for him.

Lita is the most un-deserving of the "Most over female in WWE" title. She can't wrestle. She botches moves (more before when she would wrestle doing 187 shit-canranas and sloppy moonsaults) and she can't work the mike. Three strikes and she's out.

[2GOLD 0]

And Matt got de-pushed straight to hell.

 

First, they get rid of his cool ass V1 t-shirts in favor of those puke colored girly ones. Christ, if they cared about him they would have SEEN the V1 shirts in the crowd and not cancel the damn thing.

 

Second, they slice down his entrance so he can't get face pops

 

And then, they bumble the turn on Lita. I mean, she is one of the most over females in the company so turning on her could have been HUGE for him.

Lita is the most un-deserving of the "Most over female in WWE" title. She can't wrestle. She botches moves (more before when she would wrestle doing 187 shit-canranas and sloppy moonsaults) and she can't work the mike. Three strikes and she's out.

 

But the crowd loves her cause she has big breasts and she grabs the attention of the fake punk girls aka almost every teen girl on the planet.

 

She looks like Hot Topic girl.

 

And when did good work EVER factor into getting over in the WWE as a female?

[Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes]

And Matt got de-pushed straight to hell.

 

First, they get rid of his cool ass V1 t-shirts in favor of those puke colored girly ones. Christ, if they cared about him they would have SEEN the V1 shirts in the crowd and not cancel the damn thing.

 

Second, they slice down his entrance so he can't get face pops

 

And then, they bumble the turn on Lita. I mean, she is one of the most over females in the company so turning on her could have been HUGE for him.

Lita is the most un-deserving of the "Most over female in WWE" title. She can't wrestle. She botches moves (more before when she would wrestle doing 187 shit-canranas and sloppy moonsaults) and she can't work the mike. Three strikes and she's out.

 

But the crowd loves her cause she has big breasts and she grabs the attention of the fake punk girls aka almost every teen girl on the planet.

 

She looks like Hot Topic girl.

 

And when did good work EVER factor into getting over in the WWE as a female?

But Lita's ugly. So thats a mega negative to 90% of the marks. She wear's like two layers of make-up for christ's sake and the tattoo on her lip is really unatractive to me.

[2GOLD 0]

And Matt got de-pushed straight to hell.

 

First, they get rid of his cool ass V1 t-shirts in favor of those puke colored girly ones. Christ, if they cared about him they would have SEEN the V1 shirts in the crowd and not cancel the damn thing.

 

Second, they slice down his entrance so he can't get face pops

 

And then, they bumble the turn on Lita. I mean, she is one of the most over females in the company so turning on her could have been HUGE for him.

Lita is the most un-deserving of the "Most over female in WWE" title. She can't wrestle. She botches moves (more before when she would wrestle doing 187 shit-canranas and sloppy moonsaults) and she can't work the mike. Three strikes and she's out.

 

But the crowd loves her cause she has big breasts and she grabs the attention of the fake punk girls aka almost every teen girl on the planet.

 

She looks like Hot Topic girl.

 

And when did good work EVER factor into getting over in the WWE as a female?

But Lita's ugly. So thats a mega negative to 90% of the marks. She wear's like two layers of make-up for christ's sake and the tattoo on her lip is really unatractive to me.

 

When have most male wrestling fans EVER made it above looking at the chest of a wrestling female?

 

Plus, she looks decent at certain angles.

 

And again, she is Hot topic girl. Some guys LOVE the hot topic girl look.

[Guest KidKrash]

But Lita's ugly. So thats a mega negative to 90% of the marks. She wear's like two layers of make-up for christ's sake and the tattoo on her lip is really unatractive to me.

Using someone's perceived ugliness or attractiveness only means that you can't find anything useful to use in your argument. Those things are subjective. Say what you want about Lita. Sure she sucks in the ring but she's one of the more over people on the roster. As long as she keeps the crowd awake with little effort, she's a plus.

[Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes]

But Lita's ugly. So thats a mega negative to 90% of the marks. She wear's like two layers of make-up for christ's sake and the tattoo on her lip is really unatractive to me.

Using someone's perceived ugliness or attractiveness only means that you can't find anything useful to use in your argument. Those things are subjective. Say what you want about Lita. Sure she sucks in the ring but she's one of the more over people on the roster. As long as she keeps the crowd awake with little effort, she's a plus.

My Argument: So she sucks in the ring.

 

Response: Don't argue about that. All everyone cares about is looks.

 

My Response: Shes ugly and has nasty tattoos

 

Response: Don't argue that. She's over because...

 

My Response: Because why?

 

Response: Uh, Your gay! HAHA FAG!

[Guest KidKrash]

This guy for whatever reason gets the world handed to him as soon as he enters the WWE. It all started with the 3rd Generation promos. Rock never got those promos. Lesnar was pushed to the moon, but he took some lumps first.

 

Rock never got those promos? I saw a ton of them, usually replayed before Survivor Series 96.

 

Lesnar took some lumps first? WHEN THE FUCK WAS THIS?

[Styles 0]

Oh God, what have I started!

I think this is being blown way out of proportion, Eddie really didn't "fuck up" that badly at all.

-The only botched spot was when Eddie was doing his "hold one guys' hand and headscissors the other" spot to Haas to try to eliminate him. They must have not had enough momentum on the move because Haas didn't go over he just kind of feel into the ropes, so Eddie immediately picked up and chucked him over the other side. Great job covering, didn't repeat it or anything. I'm sure they'll use a camera angle so it won't be noticeable at all.

-The frogsplash was really just something I noticed. He landed on Rikishi's face pretty hard instead of the body. I'm sure he's fine though but when he got up he slammed Eddie pretty hard

-There was at least one point where Angle and Eddie were both hanging onto the ropes and they were both dangerously close to falling out, Eddie especially was just about touching the floor and a ref ran over to make sure he didn't. In fact Eddie might have pulled himself back up on his own power, but one foot might have touched (which is perfectly legal). If anything it added to the drama and got a lot of oohs and ahhs from the crowd. There were so many close spots between Eddie and Kurt that it'd didn't matter.

Ok so let me clarify! Eddie wasn't blowing spots left and right! I just was quickly recalling from memory the spots I remembered and since Eddie was the centerpiece those are a few moments I remembered. He looked really good otherwise.

Hell I forgot to mention the Cat coming in and hitting offense on everyone in the match, dancing and then tossed out by (I think) Cena for the first elimination.

Everyone just chill!

[LooseCannon25 0]

This guy for whatever reason gets the world handed to him as soon as he enters the WWE. It all started with the 3rd Generation promos. Rock never got those promos. Lesnar was pushed to the moon, but he took some lumps first.

 

Rock never got those promos? I saw a ton of them, usually replayed before Survivor Series 96.

 

Lesnar took some lumps first? WHEN THE FUCK WAS THIS?

How about fuckin around with the Hardy boys for a month and even losing.......how about being on the verge of losing to RVD and Paul Heyman intentionally DQing to avoid the pin he was gonna suffer?

 

 

I don't remember Rocky getting much mention at all before Survivor Series 96. Even after that what were they doing for him?

[Fökai 0]

And when did good work EVER factor into getting over in the WWE as a female?

When a female wrestler's workrate mattered to the U.S. crowds...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So yeah....never.

[Guest KidKrash]

How about fuckin around with the Hardy boys for a month and even losing.......how about being on the verge of losing to RVD and Paul Heyman intentionally DQing to avoid the pin he was gonna suffer?

 

 

I don't remember Rocky getting much mention at all before Survivor Series 96. Even after that what were they doing for him?

Yeah how about fucking around with the Hardy Boyz for a month? It was two months and it was one guy and against a tag team of brothers who were super hot with the crowd. Guess who went over? Brock EVERY time. I don't remember once that the Hardyz went over, except by DQ.

 

As far as RVD. He beat him at KOR the month prior. Then he lost to him by DQ with perfectly normal heel tactics.

 

Some lumps...some lumps. Those DQ losses were hard to take.

 

As far as Rocky after SS 96 after he won his Survivor Series debut match as the sole survivor he won the the IC title 4 months later jobbing out HHH twice.

[Guest Your Olympic Hero]

I can't wait for the Orton express id he is the second coming of Lex Luger. He can botch a running forearm as his finisher.

Don't knock that finisher. Luger forearm had a STEEL plate in it for God's sake! STEEL! That shit knocked out Yokozuna like 100 times.

[Guest Goodear]

Luger used to be good. I don't why I say this everytime someone brings him up, but I do. Broke down and stopped caring sure... but used to be good.

[Guest Your Olympic Hero]

Yeah how about fucking around with the Hardy Boyz for a month? It was two months and it was one guy and against a tag team of brothers who were super hot with the crowd. Guess who went over? Brock EVERY time. I don't remember once that the Hardyz went over, except by DQ.

Didn't Brock & Heyman beat the Hardys in a tag match, with Heyman pinning one of them?

 

I do remember the Hardys going over in a handicap match by DQ.

[Guest Duncan Eternia]

Orton has yet to have a good match.

I enjoyed his match with RVD a few weeks back. I thought that was very good.

 

 

But thats just my humble opinion. I think we just need to give Orton a chance. We bitch and complain that WWE doesnt give guys a shot...well they are giving one to Orton. I think people only hate him because he is iin a stable with HHH.

 

But again, that is just my humble opinion.

[jester 0]

Yeah how about fucking around with the Hardy Boyz for a month? It was two months and it was one guy and against a tag team of brothers who were super hot with the crowd. Guess who went over? Brock EVERY time. I don't remember once that the Hardyz went over, except by DQ.

Didn't Brock & Heyman beat the Hardys in a tag match, with Heyman pinning one of them?

 

I do remember the Hardys going over in a handicap match by DQ.

IIRC, Brock's first loss was a DQ to one of the Hardy boys.

 

That was just after the Whacky Flight From Hell where Brock and Curt Hennig got into it. Not too long after that, Brock fought Bubba and actually had to sell for him, and I think Bubba even got a phantom pin on Brock--ie. it would have been a three count if the ref hadn't been bumped.

 

I've got no proof, but I think they were trying to deflate Brock's ego without seriously screwing up his push.

[Vyce 0]

But Lita's ugly. So thats a mega negative to 90% of the marks. She wear's like two layers of make-up for christ's sake and the tattoo on her lip is really unatractive to me.

I disagree.

 

She's not a beauty queen, but she is attractive. A little rougher around the edges than the other divas, but she's not bad.

 

And unlike some people here, the shorts look is better. You can actually see her legs now - they're not hidden by fucking cargo pants.

[Guest FrigidSoul]

I didn't see the Haas spot but I did see the Frog Splash on Rikishi and it came across as looking fine, in fact I was surprised he could twist his body in mid-air so well. Also with that spot where he almost touched the floor...he saved himself, the ref never even touched him.

 

So where were these supposed botched spots that were suppose to make us all say Guerrero is only on par with Orton, because I didn't see them.

[CanadianChris 0]

rawmvp needs to apologize. And not just for that horseshit he's subjecting everyone to in the LSD folder.

[Tawren 0]

1. The botched head scissors: not anything big, he and Haas improvised a new dealy right away. 0 for 1, rawmvp.

 

2. Frog splash on Rikishi: not that bad, Rikishi's fault for being straight on his side. 0 for 2, rawmvp.

 

3. Near eliminations: ref didn't help him up, plus it added to match at how easily they could have been eliminated. 0 for 3, rawmvp.

 

YOU LOSE, DUMBASS.

[Guest]

rawmvp needs to apologize. And not just for that horseshit he's subjecting everyone to in the LSD folder.

BURN!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Styles 0]

Yup. I hope I made it clear in this thread, that it wasn't a big deal and that I was simply trying to recall as many spots as I could from the match. Rawmvp is the one who tried to blow my words out of proportion. The headscisors spot was, as I said, covered real well, but it looked a little akward. They showed the frogsplash at a different angle, from my angle it looked like he crashed onto Rikishi's face. And the spot where he almost was out turns out was just good showmanship by Eddie. The ref ran over and had his arms out but never actually touched him, my vantage was slightly blocked by the ring apron. Anyway, great match, eh? Viva La Eddie! Long Live The Eddie!

[Guest rawmvp]

OK I'm sorry, but it was you guys who blew this out of proportion. I posted only one item; you guys posted 110 replies.

[Scroby 0]

HOLY CRAP!!!! We blew it outta porportion? Your the one who made this topic trying to make Eddie look as bad as Orton and I promise you this NONE of us would have even seen those missed spots or even made a huge deal outta it like you did. RAWMVP most of the time you try to discuss something or point something out, you make yourself look so bad. The reason we posted so much is because we wanted to make a good case for Eddie. Eddie whose a ring veteran in the sport and Orton whose green as hell and only has a job cause he's an Orton! Seriously next time you try to make someone look bad, back it up or just don't type anything at all. Besides I'm getting tired of making you look bad.

[Slayer 0]

Rawmvp guilty of exageration and blowing things out of proportion?

 

Never

[Guest Ghettoman]

As if the point never held ground anyway.

 

How about all the spots redone by Misterio and Matt Hardy over there time on SD that you hear about, and not covered, redone? I can remember hearing of at least 3 instances where that happened at a taping with either one of them.

 

The point was there and it was a good one, but of course that's missed.

[Guest BionicRedneck]

Am I the only person who remembers when Angle botched that F-5 counter spot, so they got up and did it again a few seconds later? I don't remember too many people bringing that up.

[humongous2002 0]

Rawmvp guilty of exageration and blowing things out of proportion?

 

Never

I haven't laughed so hard ,that is,by far, the funniest shit i've ever read, some of this trolls should spend less time in the internet and more time trying to get laid,lol.

[clean rob 0]

Am I the only person who remembers when Angle botched that F-5 counter spot, so they got up and did it again a few seconds later? I don't remember too many people bringing that up.

No, it's been mentioned a few times in this thread already, try page 2.

[Guest BionicRedneck]

Oh good. Just as long as people remember.