Angle-plex Posted February 2, 2004 Report Posted February 2, 2004 I have come to realize that the No Holds Barred forum is a place that lacks intelligent conversation. It is a troll playground that glorifies stupidity. We need to change that or this forum should just be deleted. The topic: Restrictions on civil liberties are justified in view of the threat of terrorism. Do you agree? Disagree? Why? Feel free to give your thoughts and views on this subject, and remember....intelligent conversation only!
Zack Malibu Posted February 2, 2004 Report Posted February 2, 2004 Agnes=TSM's version of Right To Censor
Guest Ghettoman Posted February 2, 2004 Report Posted February 2, 2004 Hmm, I'd say you've missed the point of this forum, but um, you kind of described it as you opened up....
Guest Agent of Oblivion Posted February 2, 2004 Report Posted February 2, 2004 Disagree. Considering that personal freedoms and islamic fundamentalist terrorism are mutually exclusive philosophies, it would be beneficial to keep the former in good condition. Were the govt. to do something drastic and silly such as reduce them for the sake of a security blanket, we'd end up with middle eastern philosophies coming out of a different book.
RavishingRickRudo Posted February 2, 2004 Report Posted February 2, 2004 You wrote this knowing that this thread would turn stupid. ...Restriction on civil liberties IS terrorism.
EL BRUJ0 Posted February 2, 2004 Report Posted February 2, 2004 I have come to realize that the No Holds Barred forum is a place that lacks intelligent conversation.And here I thought this folder, on a wrestling messageboard no less, was stimulating the brilliant minds of the world's future genuises, silly me. And for the record, this isn't No Holds Barred it's Hardcore Discussion, you stupid twat. It is a troll playground that glorifies stupidity. We need to change that or this forum should just be deleted.I'm sorry what was that? I couldn't hear you with the Man in Blak's cock in your mouth.
The Man in Blak Posted February 2, 2004 Report Posted February 2, 2004 An old man turned ninety-eight He won the lottery and died the next day It's a black fly in your Chardonnay It's a death row pardon two minutes too late And isn't it ironic...dontcha think It's like rain on your wedding day It's a free ride when you've already paid It's the good advice that you just didn't take Who would've thought...it figures Mr. Play It Safe was afraid to fly He packed his suitcase and kissed his kids goodbye He waited his whole damn life to take that flight And as the plane crashed down he thought "Well isn't this nice..." And isn't it ironic...dontcha think It's like rain on your wedding day It's a free ride when you've already paid It's the good advice that you just didn't take Who would've thought...it figures Well life has a funny way of sneaking up on you When you think everything's okay and everything's going right And life has a funny way of helping you out when You think everything's gone wrong and everything blows up In your face A traffic jam when you're already late A no-smoking sign on your cigarette break It's like ten thousand spoons when all you need is a knife It's meeting the man of my dreams And then meeting his beautiful wife And isn't it ironic...dontcha think A little too ironic...and yeah I really do think... It's like rain on your wedding day It's a free ride when you've already paid It's the good advice that you just didn't take Who would've thought...it figures Life has a funny way of sneaking up on you Life has a funny, funny way of helping you out Helping you out
EL BRUJ0 Posted February 2, 2004 Report Posted February 2, 2004 And just when you thought it was safe to freely play on the streets, here comes the gheylyricmobile zooming down on your slow, candyass. The fuck is going on HERE!?
Angle-plex Posted February 2, 2004 Author Report Posted February 2, 2004 Restriction on civil liberties IS terrorism Why do you feel that way? How would you respond to someone who says that a person's safety is more important than their freedom?
Angle-plex Posted February 2, 2004 Author Report Posted February 2, 2004 ^ just made a fool of himself yep Please stop trolling, as you are diverting people's attention away from the conversation. Either provide your insights on this topic or please leave this thread.
1234-5678 Posted February 2, 2004 Report Posted February 2, 2004 Restriction on civil liberties IS terrorism Why do you feel that way? How would you respond to someone who says that a person's safety is more important than their freedom? I'd tell them to kiss my ass and let them know that my safety is my business. It's like that ridiculous seatbelt law. Oh, so I have to wear my seatbelt? Sorry, not going to, it makes me uncomfortable. If I get into an accident and go flying through the windshield, then oh well.
razazteca Posted February 2, 2004 Report Posted February 2, 2004 Who is more annoying Bill Mahr or Dennis Miller?
RavishingRickRudo Posted February 2, 2004 Report Posted February 2, 2004 Why do you feel that way? If I have to wear an identity card, have my moves monitored where ever I go, essentially give up my rights to privacy, and can get arrested without cause or explanation and thrown in jail without any rights to a lawyer - that's terrorism. That's using force, either physical or psychological, to obtain control over another. It's using fear to promote the governments own objectives; no matter how righteous they "appear" to be. How would you respond to someone who says that a person's safety is more important than their freedom? I'd say at what price and at what point does freedom die? RRR: Doesn't like feeling like a pawn.
MarvinisaLunatic Posted February 3, 2004 Report Posted February 3, 2004 Who is more annoying Bill Mahr or Dennis Miller? Dennis Miller
Hoff Posted February 3, 2004 Report Posted February 3, 2004 *sees Dames in thread* OMG DAMES SUXXORSZSZS~!!!!11 *makes intelligent convo*
Highland Posted February 3, 2004 Report Posted February 3, 2004 "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin This aptly summons up my position in this debate.
Perfxion Posted February 3, 2004 Report Posted February 3, 2004 The point of terrorism is the change another person's or country's lifestyle so they can feel safe. IE: KKK making black males hide at night so if the KKK comes storming in, blacks do not have to worry about being killed. Personal freedom is what makes this world worth living. I am not going to give up my rights so The Man can "protect" me, while I can simply die hitting my head on the bathtub after slipping on the soap. Shit can happen, why be scared of what can happen.
k thx Posted February 3, 2004 Report Posted February 3, 2004 The point of terrorism is the change another person's or country's lifestyle so they can feel safe. I'm pretty sure the point of terrorism is to terrorise people. The clue's in the question!
Mole Posted February 3, 2004 Report Posted February 3, 2004 Who is more annoying Bill Mahr or Dennis Miller? Dennis Miller But Bill O'Reilly is the worst.
Angle-plex Posted February 4, 2004 Author Report Posted February 4, 2004 New Topic: Affirmitive Action. Yay, Eh, or Nay? EDIT: And can anyone find any good websites on the first topic? I looked and couldn't find anything worth posting.
MarvinisaLunatic Posted February 4, 2004 Report Posted February 4, 2004 "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin This aptly summons up my position in this debate. I was at the hospital today, and in the waiting room I was reading an old issue of time that had an article on Ben Franklin, and I saw this quote and I was going to post it but you beat me to it by a bit.
Hoff Posted February 7, 2004 Report Posted February 7, 2004 A liberty which states its case quietly and respectfully. *rimshot* Affirmative action: Nay, in base theory. Jobs ought go to the most qualified, end of story. The only confusion comes in when that doesn't happen for whatever reason. However, affirmative action by and large probably isn't the best solution. Furthermore, ignorant fuckwads do have the right to be ignorant fuckwads. If you want to be racist, or sexist, your prerogative, but be ready to deal with the consequences, be they protests, boycotts, lawsuits, or getting your ass beat at 3 AM in a dark alley.
godthedog Posted February 7, 2004 Report Posted February 7, 2004 "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin This aptly summons up my position in this debate. maybe, but it's also a really shitty argument.
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