Michrome 0 Report post Posted February 3, 2004 Randy Savage is expected to headline NWA-TNA's planned April 4 Sunday night three-hour PPV . Sources say TNA has reached agreement with Savage to face Jeff Jarrett in the headline match of TNA's biggest PPV to date. Savage has not been active in wrestling for several years since his departure from WCW during the Monday Night Wars. In essence, the payoff that had been budgeted for Hulk Hogan when the "Bound for Glory" PPV was originally scheduled for November last year has been shifted to Savage. No official announcement has been made by TNA, so there is no official confirmation yet that the deal is sealed. After what happened with the Hulk Hogan situation, TNA doesn't want to announce anything until all paperwork is finalized and they are ready to make everything public. "DUED THE AVERAGE FAN KNOES WHO RANDY SAVAGE IS NOT AJ STYLES!1!1!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Ghost of bps21 0 Report post Posted February 3, 2004 Ironically...I once planned to order a WWA ppv to see Savage face Jarrett (which didn't happen cause Savage went crazy and demanded millions)... I ended up ordering it anyway...and that was the first time I found out who AJ Styles was. It all comes full circle in a terrible, terrible match. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldSchoolWrestling 0 Report post Posted February 3, 2004 Glad JJJ already has the title or the person holding it would have had to hand it over pretty quickly to set up JJJ/Savage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Report post Posted February 3, 2004 And this makes TNA the BIG #2 Promotion...HOW?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeDirt 0 Report post Posted February 3, 2004 It kind of says a lot when they don't have anyone on their current roster (except Jarrett, of course) that they feel confident putting in the main event of a 3 hour PPV. They were looking at Hall...Nash...Sting...Savage. Maybe they should worry about establishing a fan base with the talent they DO have and will be there for many years to come... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TNABaddboi 0 Report post Posted February 3, 2004 At least we'll get a better match than Jarrett/Hogan. I think I might even like it if they do that match on top with a Gauntlet for the Gold for a title shot as the double main. Have the GftG come down to Raven and Punk with Punk being all that stands in front of his destiny. Build it up were Raven has to earn his way into the battle royal, is like the #1 entrant and this is his only way to get a shot. He gets the rub of going over all the other "big" names like Hall, Shamrock, Nash, etc and he's super over heading to Raven/Jarrett II at the second big show. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted February 3, 2004 Actually Jarrett/Hogan would've blown Jarrett/Savage out of the water. Savage can barely move anymore let alone work a match well. Seeing his New Japan appearance in 2000 was enough to make me never want to see him enter a ring again. While Hogan is a limited worker he can still pull off watchable to decent matches. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Ghost of bps21 0 Report post Posted February 3, 2004 I don't know why...but until it happens...part of me will always want to see Hogan vs. Jarrett. I have no real reason...just that it was supposed to main event two pay per views in two different companies...and it's never happened. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dynamite Kido Report post Posted February 3, 2004 Meh, I thought that besides name value Hogan didn't bring much to the table anyway. Savage actually brings less. I would rather see them bring in tons of wrestlers from oversees than do something stupid and costly like this. Once again, Note to TNA: NOBODY cares about washed up wrestlers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest hunger4unger Report post Posted February 3, 2004 The thing to remember is that whilst Savage was a good draw he no longer is. Sure he has name value but to me the negatives outweigh the positives. Savage is old and wrestling fans, the majority of them being 12-20 years old, don't want to see old guys. Hogan is the ONE exception and he had a limited attraction in WWE. The younger guys are the future and if TNA don't have any of it's own talent to draw at PPV level then they shouldn't be doing big PPV shows yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Use Your Illusion 0 Report post Posted February 4, 2004 While Hogan is a limited worker he can still pull off watchable to decent matches. Um, no he can't. However, Hogan's name value far surpasses Savage, and in this case that is all that matters. Also, Savage has never really been a draw, the people he has feuded with and been in the ring with were the big draws (i.e. Hogan, Flair etc.), not him. If this does actually go down, it will be atrocious. UYI Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TDinDC1112 Report post Posted February 4, 2004 In my opinion, this should be the card: Jarrett vs. Raven Styles vs. Sting AMW vs. Outsiders Daniels, Lo-Ki, Skipper vs. Juvy, Red, Spanky Diamond and Swinger (having already won the titles back) vs. Naturals for the titles D-Lo vs. Abyss vs. Jerry Lynn for a title show a week or 2 down the road Sabin vs. Shane for the X-Title Punk & Julio vs. Sandman & Sabu -I know Sabu isn't too good, but his name draws curiosity and it would fit the current storyline -XXX can reform and say that there is no competition for them anywhere in the world, and some authority figure can tell them that he found them some competition -Styles has to go over, and not how he went over Luger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Use Your Illusion 0 Report post Posted February 4, 2004 AMW vs. Outsiders Think about that for a second. Done? Okay. UYI Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vyce 0 Report post Posted February 4, 2004 This is very, very sad. And I'm a TNA fan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Report post Posted February 4, 2004 At least we'll get a better match than Jarrett/Hogan. I think I might even like it if they do that match on top with a Gauntlet for the Gold for a title shot as the double main. Have the GftG come down to Raven and Punk with Punk being all that stands in front of his destiny. Build it up were Raven has to earn his way into the battle royal, is like the #1 entrant and this is his only way to get a shot. He gets the rub of going over all the other "big" names like Hall, Shamrock, Nash, etc and he's super over heading to Raven/Jarrett II at the second big show. So TNA DIRECTLY stealing a WWE plot 2 months later makes them look good.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Report post Posted February 4, 2004 Actually Jarrett/Hogan would've blown Jarrett/Savage out of the water. Savage can barely move anymore let alone work a match well. Seeing his New Japan appearance in 2000 was enough to make me never want to see him enter a ring again. While Hogan is a limited worker he can still pull off watchable to decent matches. Plus from what I've heard, Savage can't even do the elbow off the top without nearly killing his opponent. (I guess old people like him don't want to break a hip) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michrome 0 Report post Posted February 4, 2004 I pretty much agree with your card TDCC, but I would have the Sabin/Juvi 3rd match for the X title, since a Michael Shane match is not what you want to show off your X division with. Replace Juvi in the 6 man with Jack Evans, and you're set. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TNABaddboi 0 Report post Posted February 4, 2004 So TNA DIRECTLY stealing a WWE plot 2 months later makes them look good.. A battle royal to determine a number #1 contender is not a "WWE plot"....every promotion in the business has used it, including TNA this past summer when Raven won a shot against Styles and when Gilberti won a match with Jarrett. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Use Your Illusion 0 Report post Posted February 4, 2004 So TNA DIRECTLY stealing a WWE plot 2 months later makes them look good.. A battle royal to determine a number #1 contender is not a "WWE plot"....every promotion in the business has used it, including TNA this past summer when Raven won a shot against Styles and when Gilberti won a match with Jarrett. Whether every B-grade promotion uses it or not, it is still a WWE Plot. Vince's company is famous for its Royal Rumble matches and the company places a great deal of advertising, importance and storyline significance on that particular concept, so when people see a 'battle royal to determine the no.1 contender', the first thing they think of is World Wrestling Entertainment. UYI Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Frank_Nabbit Report post Posted February 4, 2004 Who's to say Savage won't go looney tunes and hold out like he did w/ WWA????? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mecha Mummy 0 Report post Posted February 4, 2004 And this makes TNA the BIG #2 Promotion...HOW?! Default. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Ghost of bps21 0 Report post Posted February 4, 2004 TNA has done many gauntlet for the golds in the past. In fact...the WWE is rumored to be stealing the idea that TNA used for a cruiserweight gauntlet where you have to pin the other guys instead of tossing them over the top rope for Mania. TNA did that back when London debuted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Report post Posted February 4, 2004 So TNA DIRECTLY stealing a WWE plot 2 months later makes them look good.. A battle royal to determine a number #1 contender is not a "WWE plot"....every promotion in the business has used it, including TNA this past summer when Raven won a shot against Styles and when Gilberti won a match with Jarrett. Whether every B-grade promotion uses it or not, it is still a WWE Plot. Vince's company is famous for its Royal Rumble matches and the company places a great deal of advertising, importance and storyline significance on that particular concept, so when people see a 'battle royal to determine the no.1 contender', the first thing they think of is World Wrestling Entertainment. UYI I actually meant the stupid "Wrestler X has to enter #1 and survive everyone to win against all odds", which is the EXACT Thing Chris Benoit just did on WWE...THREE WEEKS AGO! If TNA wants to steal ideas, steal something WWE won't remember....like 6 months ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TNABaddboi 0 Report post Posted February 4, 2004 I actually meant the stupid "Wrestler X has to enter #1 and survive everyone to win against all odds", Also not a new thing....TNA did this with Jarrett in the first Gauntlet, though he didn't win. It's pretty much standard booking for a babyface you really want to put over to either have to enter first and run the table (a la Benoit) or be "injured" and leave everybody wondering whether they will be able to compete (a la Raven in the most recent Gauntlet) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Report post Posted February 4, 2004 I actually meant the stupid "Wrestler X has to enter #1 and survive everyone to win against all odds", Also not a new thing....TNA did this with Jarrett in the first Gauntlet, though he didn't win. It's pretty much standard booking for a babyface you really want to put over to either have to enter first and run the table (a la Benoit) or be "injured" and leave everybody wondering whether they will be able to compete (a la Raven in the most recent Gauntlet) But TNA's roster for the first show was barely a notch above pathetic. Gangrel? Scott Steiner Look-a-like? Bruce? Slash? Norman Smiley? Lash LeRoux? Everyone but Shamrock?! Jarrett was the asshole heel who pissed people off. Not the babyface going against all odds to become #1 Contender. Raven could always do the sit in the corner for the entire match while everyone pretends he's not in the ring until the end. That would probably be worse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michrome 0 Report post Posted February 4, 2004 WWE is rumored to be stealing the idea that TNA used for a cruiserweight gauntlet where you have to pin the other guys instead of tossing them over the top rope for Mania. TNA did that back when London debuted. Oh, give me a break. Tons of promotions all over the world did this before the thought of creating TNA ever came into the mind of Jerry Jarrett. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Use Your Illusion 0 Report post Posted February 4, 2004 So TNA DIRECTLY stealing a WWE plot 2 months later makes them look good.. A battle royal to determine a number #1 contender is not a "WWE plot"....every promotion in the business has used it, including TNA this past summer when Raven won a shot against Styles and when Gilberti won a match with Jarrett. Whether every B-grade promotion uses it or not, it is still a WWE Plot. Vince's company is famous for its Royal Rumble matches and the company places a great deal of advertising, importance and storyline significance on that particular concept, so when people see a 'battle royal to determine the no.1 contender', the first thing they think of is World Wrestling Entertainment. UYI I actually meant the stupid "Wrestler X has to enter #1 and survive everyone to win against all odds", which is the EXACT Thing Chris Benoit just did on WWE...THREE WEEKS AGO! If TNA wants to steal ideas, steal something WWE won't remember....like 6 months ago. Well, that's even worse and further proves your point. This whole ordeal is going to blow up in their faces, I fail to see any glimmer of hope in a line-up rumoured to involve Randy Savage, Scott Hall and KEVIN NASH. UYI Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eirejmcmahon 0 Report post Posted February 4, 2004 Macho has NO name value, CAN'T draw and is no longer ABLE to wrestle. Sting, Nash & Hall I get, but that old freak ? Stupid, stupid, stupid. Now, having said that, if you plan to use him lads, make sure he's signed a contract first, right ? Hang on, where did the quoted text come from ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TDinDC1112 Report post Posted February 4, 2004 I pretty much agree with your card TDCC, but I would have the Sabin/Juvi 3rd match for the X title, since a Michael Shane match is not what you want to show off your X division with. Replace Juvi in the 6 man with Jack Evans, and you're set. I'll go with that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TDinDC1112 Report post Posted February 4, 2004 AMW vs. Outsiders Think about that for a second. Done? Okay. UYI Well, you need something to try to draw some outside people in. It makes sense to have them go against AMW. Like them or not, AMW is marketed as their top tag team. Having them go against (and go over!) an outside tag team like that will work. I'm not talking about putting Hall and Nash in the main event. That would be a mistake. It would also be a mistake to throw them in there agains Jarrett and Sting. But putting them in there against an established tag team makes sense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
