Who would fare better in Japan?

[Guest Choken One]

I was reading how Angle and Lesnar were offered a pretty deal from NOAH not so long ago (but Vince Nixed it)...

 

We know Goldberg has had some success (at least Financially) in Japan...

 

Which wrestlers or performers for that Matter would have bigger and better success working for NOAH or PRIDE or someother Japanbased company?

 

Logically, Most will say Benoit, Eddy, Jericho but I'm thinking more along the lines of the not so traditional "great workers" of WWE, Would Rhyno be a big hit in Japan or perhaps Stan Hansen Wannabe Bradshaw or perhaps A-Train...

[Guest Ghettoman]

Brock is definetly one, A-train would be stronger over there than he is in the WWE and that could be to his advantage.

 

Val Venis would do pretty well for himself too with a pretty simplistic racy gimmick and some ability.

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Rhyno would get over well in Japan ala Vader, imo. Hurricane, Jamie Noble, and Chris Kanyon would all fare better there than here as well I think.

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Big Show.

[Guest Choken One]

Interesting Pick there with TBS...Not sure if that was a joke but I do think TBS is easily one of the most UNDER RATED workers in WWE.

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Bradshaw is one that I'd pick.

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I have a tape from 1994 in japan and they loved the Undertaker gimmick.

[Guest Choken One]

Yep and factor in the fact Taker has made a transformation to a more workrate based moveset...he could be huge.

[Guest JMA]

Bradshaw really should use his real name (John Layfield). It sounds so much better. Sorry to get off-topic, just had to say that.

 

Anyway, I could see Jamie Noble doing a lot better in Japan. He'd be an awesome junior.

[Guest Choken One]

That annoys me...If your REAL name is just as fine as your character name...use it.

 

I HATE HATE HATE Farrooq...Ron Simmons was good enough and they went back to it and they returned to Farrooq when APA reunited...

[Downhome 0]

How about that Ultimo Dragon guy?

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Interesting Pick there with TBS...Not sure if that was a joke but I do think TBS is easily one of the most UNDER RATED workers in WWE.

When WCW and NJPW had their talent agreement Big Show used to work tags and come in and do a dropkick which the fans went nuts for.

[Guest Choken One]

He wrestles too Airy for Japan

[Guest Choken One]

Interesting Pick there with TBS...Not sure if that was a joke but I do think TBS is easily one of the most UNDER RATED workers in WWE.

When WCW and NJPW had their talent agreement Big Show used to work tags and come in and do a dropkick which the fans went nuts for.

u need to tell the people who aren't aware but TBS once weighed like 360 and wasn't the fat ass he is now...he also once could do a SSP.

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Nunzio would get over in japan if they put him under a mask.

[Guest JMA]

That annoys me...If your REAL name is just as fine as your character name...use it.

 

I HATE HATE HATE Farrooq...Ron Simmons was good enough and they went back to it and they returned to Farrooq when APA reunited...

Ditto. "Layfield and Simmons" would've been a better name than the outdated "APA."

 

I mean, they aren't even the Acolytes anymore so the name makes no sense.

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Interesting Pick there with TBS...Not sure if that was a joke but I do think TBS is easily one of the most UNDER RATED workers in WWE.

 

The Japanese love giants. Big Show is worlds better than the ones they push over there (though I wouldn't call him what you called him, I think he gets OVER RATED on this board.) He also does comedy, they would eat it up.

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Big Show doing the crab walk would be great.

[Guest Choken One]

That annoys me...If your REAL name is just as fine as your character name...use it.

 

I HATE HATE HATE Farrooq...Ron Simmons was good enough and they went back to it and they returned to Farrooq when APA reunited...

Ditto. "Layfield and Simmons" would've been a better name than the outdated "APA."

 

I mean, they aren't even the Acolytes anymore so the name makes no sense.

I thought they changed it to

 

AMERICAN

PROTECTION

ACADEMY

 

Or

 

ASS

PENTRATION

ARMY

[Guest JMA]

ALWAYS

POUNDING

ASS

 

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

Another

Pathetic

Acronym

[Guest Dynamite Kido]

Val Venis would do pretty well for himself too with a pretty simplistic racy gimmick and some ability.

He already did.

[Guest Super Leather]

My roommate thinks "APA" stands for Always Pounding Ass.

 

And I could never understand why they went for the "Farrooq" moniker as opposed to his real name. When he debuted on WWF TV attacking Ahmed Johnson, I was all like "Holy shit! Ron Simmons...wait, what's with the getup he's wearing?!" Remember the stupid costume he wore before the NOD formed? I believe he even had a baby blue helmet to go along with it. To imagine that he was a former WCW champion...

 

If I remember correctly, the reasoning WWF gave for the name change was due to Simmons' converting to some sort of a black nationalist mentality. Sowing the eventual seeds for the NOD, I suppose.

 

Oops...just realized this is totally off topic. Apologies.

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Interesting Pick there with TBS...Not sure if that was a joke but I do think TBS is easily one of the most UNDER RATED workers in WWE.

When WCW and NJPW had their talent agreement Big Show used to work tags and come in and do a dropkick which the fans went nuts for.

u need to tell the people who aren't aware but TBS once weighed like 360 and wasn't the fat ass he is now...he also once could do a SSP.

Moonsualt, not SSP.

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Yeah, I've never heard any reports ever say Big Show could manage a SSP - he could definitely do a moonsault at one point though. (to be fair, who can't?) Perhaps you're mixing him up with Mark Henry, who apparently could pull off a SSP when he dropped all the excess pounds some time ago in OVW.

 

Wasn't Big Show supposedly going to pull out the moonsault against Nash at some point in WCW, but Kevin flat out refused to take it? Or am I just imagining that one?

[Guest nikowwf]

Of course Eddy and Benoit could do it, as could most of the cruisers. But Angle and Brock would be GODS in japan, stylewise they would fit so easily, plus they could be marketed as "real" due to their wrestling backgrounds.

 

Vince turned down the offers because they were either on small shows so didn't help the WWE, and often involved the WWE guy putting over the local talent, which is really pointless to WWE because its not like the guy returning the favor in the US has any value.

 

niko

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Brock would do pretty well I think. Possibly A-Train, since he does have a pretty unique offense in the world of the bland "WWE style".

[Guest BionicRedneck]

I don't think there was any real "offer" from NOAH to Angle/Lesnar. It was just the usual rumours that come out of Japan.

 

Bradshaw has been to Japan. Nobody gave two fucks about him there, either.

[Guest Choken One]

but how does it really hurt WWE when only a very tiny fraction of it would ever know about it? It helps a overseas company, gives the workers something special and reawarding and likely could pocket a little dough at the same time...

 

I still push that WWE and One of the Japan non-shoot companies such as NJPW would make good money rekindling the old World Cup of Wrestling. Bring a couple Japan workers in during the off months of September/October and hype a WORLD SERIES OF WRESTLING for Survivor Series and Have

 

TEAM USA Vs TEAM CANADA Vs TEAM JAPAN Vs TEAM MEXICO mini-tourny with USA/Japan and Canada/Mexico and have USA Beat Canada in the finals.

 

Team USA

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Kurt Angle, Brock Lesnar, Rob Van Dam and Booker T

 

Team Canada

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Chris Benoit, Chris Jericho, Lance Storm and Edge

 

Team Japan

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Tajiri, Dragon, and two Japanese performers such as Tenzen and Nagata or somthing

 

Team Mexico

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Eddy Guerrero, Rey Mysterio, Chavo Guerrero and That new guy the signed recently*

 

*Yes, I'm aware that Eddy, Chavo and Rey weren't born in Mexico but were pretty much Mexican bred and raised

[Guest DeathBecomesYou]

Anyone think any of the WWE women could possibly fit in Joshi?

Jazz would probably be a good fit for GAEA or ARISON as a badass mid card heel, her style is not far off what some of the lower Joshi workers do, and while she's no Manami Toyota, she'd still be a valuable aquisition.

Molly would need a little bit of work, but the potential is there. She already has the athletic ability, moveset (we've probably only seen 1/10th of her moves in WWE) and a pretty good idea of how to tell a story in a match (her November '03 Heat match with Ivory, while short, used a lot of good submission work from Molly to tell a story). At only 25, she has a good 10 -15 years left in her. Where she needs a little work would probably be in being able to pace a match over a longer amount of time, as she's rarely wrestled matches longer than 7-8 minutes at the most, although she had a few longer matches in WCW. But again, with a bit of work and a bit of learning, if she was willing, Molly could potentially be very succesful in Japan.