Red Baron 0 Report post Posted February 18, 2004 who cares if GnR are scheduled to perform. Punk bands perform everynight and you are gonna try to tell me that punk rock is not dead? Please. Sorry. Punk died 5 minutes after it started Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haVoc 0 Report post Posted February 18, 2004 I'm looking more forward to Velvet Revolver. Because the BAND who plays the MUSIC is on that album. I'm sure it won't be the same as old GNR w/ crackhead up front, but I'll take my chances with them. And if the real GNR ever did get back together it still wouldn't be the same. The new music would more then likely never match the old. They would end up like Aerosmith and Metallica, where their music can't touch the old, but their still huge draws live and GNR could do the same. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Krazy Karter Report post Posted February 18, 2004 Guns N' Roses May Sue to Block Greatest Hits Album Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Human Fly 0 Report post Posted February 18, 2004 Has there ever been a reason given for the delays on Chinese Democracy? I mean there has got to be something seriously wrong with it or it to keep getting delayed. At the MTV awards a few years back Axl made it sound (to me at least) that the problem was with the band. The thing has been delayed so long that he could have learned to play every instrument on the album, plus I am pretty sure that the musicians he has assembled can play the stuff. I wonder if Axl's voice is just shot he did not sound too good at the MTV awards, but I have not heard any of their live stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1234-5678 0 Report post Posted February 18, 2004 Great, if he sues Geffen, there will just be more delays for Chinese Democracy. Whoo Hoo! Fuck......... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Use Your Illusion 0 Report post Posted February 18, 2004 Well, William's never been one to act rationally in situations regarding his music. UYI Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted February 18, 2004 Well, William's never been one to act rationally in situations regarding his music. UYI wow...you dont hear him called that too often. its true though, its true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1234-5678 0 Report post Posted February 18, 2004 He's got a right to be pissed. The "Live Era" CDs should have served as a greatest hits, and the tracklisting for this one is fucking awful. "Sympathy For The Devil" and "Since I Don't Have You".........not only are they both cover songs, but they both suck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Doyo Report post Posted February 18, 2004 Has there ever been a reason given for the delays on Chinese Democracy? I mean there has got to be something seriously wrong with it or it to keep getting delayed. At the MTV awards a few years back Axl made it sound (to me at least) that the problem was with the band. The thing has been delayed so long that he could have learned to play every instrument on the album, plus I am pretty sure that the musicians he has assembled can play the stuff. I wonder if Axl's voice is just shot he did not sound too good at the MTV awards, but I have not heard any of their live stuff. I think Axl is just too much of a perfectionist and is oversensitive. He doesn't want anything to be released unless he can somehow be guarenteed that people will like it. He has enough money for whatever he wants, so the only thing left for him to worry about is his legacy being tarnished. At this point they really should just release the material. I'm sure it can't be any worse than St. Anger. You would think that Axl could have written at least one decent song per year over the 12 years since the last albums. His voice may be shot, but a lot of these "new" songs were supposedly recorded years ago and also they could use production to make him sound better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1234-5678 0 Report post Posted February 18, 2004 He has enough money for whatever he wants, so the only thing left for him to worry about is his legacy being tarnished. That can't be true. Not when over ten million has been spent on this album, some of it money that was fronted to him and was expected to be recouped after the album comes out. If he doesn't release it, he will end up in the gutter. I really do hope it is the greatest album ever released, just because of my unrelenting support of the man. But somehow, I doubt it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Doyo Report post Posted February 18, 2004 I didn't know that. I thought most of the recording was done at his home. You would think if he was desperate for money that he would be open to the greatest hits album and would also release the new album. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted February 18, 2004 Why would fans bitch about a Greatest Hits album, just because Axl didn't ok it. I don't see any of the big hits left off and all of them are popular. It's a Greatest Hits album, not a Greatest Songs album. The real reason they're pissed must be because it's not a CD of original material. As far as Axl suing...why the hell would he do that. It's not like a Greatest Hits album is going to make him look bad(he does that himself) and he'll get whatever money it makes. Take your money and shut the hell up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BUTT 0 Report post Posted February 18, 2004 I don't see any good coming of this situation. I don't think it's right to release a greatest hits album without the cooperation of the artist. I'm sure Axl isn't opposed to the idea of the a greatest hits album, he just doesn't like the idea of them doing it without his control. I really don't see this being a big seller since there's no new material and without Axl's cooperation there isn't going to be a lot of promotion. As for Human Fly's questions, he's never really given a reason why it's been delayed so often, but it should be noted that Axl suffers from bipolar disorder, so if he releases an album that doesn't perform well or that he isn't completely satisfied with, it could have a really bad emotional impact on him. As for his voice, from what I've heard from him in 2002, he didn't sound that bad. It's just that he never sounded as good live as he did on record (stretching your voice like he did for three hours at a time can't be good for you) and even in '92 he seemed to be losing some of his voice. He still can hit most of the notes, but on songs like "Welcome to the Jungle" which require excessive screeching, the effects are noticable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Doyo Report post Posted February 19, 2004 I really don't see this being a big seller since there's no new material and without Axl's cooperation there isn't going to be a lot of promotion. Oh it will still sell quite a lot. Greatest hits albums from any major artist always do. The Poison hits album went plantinum in under a year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vyce 0 Report post Posted February 19, 2004 I'm looking more forward to Velvet Revolver. Because the BAND who plays the MUSIC is on that album. I'm sure it won't be the same as old GNR w/ crackhead up front, but I'll take my chances with them. I'm excited about Revolver too, but at the way things are going, by the time Weiland is out of jail / rehab, Axl really will have released an album. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Use Your Illusion 0 Report post Posted February 19, 2004 His voice may be shot I don't understand the critcisim of Axl's voice either. On all of the live versions of Madagascar, Chinese Democracy and The Blues, Axl's vocals rival those of when he was 24 years old, and in some cases out-shine his previous work. Also, this 'Axl suing Geffen' shit has *got* to be staged. What idiot would say "No thanks, I'd rather not publicise my band name and make some money at the same time, so fuck you". Not even Axl would do something as thick-headed as this. I just get the feeling Axl is controlling this whole ordeal. UYI Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1234-5678 0 Report post Posted February 19, 2004 Eh, either way it's only about three months until Axl and Co. return (again) at Rock In Rio. I might just take a sabbatical from reading about any of this shit until then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MarioLogan Report post Posted February 19, 2004 I thought that when bands sign a contract, that they give the record company full permission to release a Greatest Hits album if they havent produced any new material. It happen with Whitesnake and Geffen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haVoc 0 Report post Posted February 19, 2004 When most bands are signed to a label they have to fulfill the contract by putting out a certain amount of albums in so many years. If the label isn't getting albums on time or think their losing money because an album bombs, they will release a greatest hits or a live album to make it up. Or, it's as simple as they have the rights to the songs and they want to make as much money as they can. Geffen loves greatest hits. Hell, Aerosmith "only" put out 4 studio albums on Geffen and since Aerosmith left them they have put out about 3 greatest hits and a live album on the band. A lot of people have had problems with the Geffen label over the years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1234-5678 0 Report post Posted February 19, 2004 LOS ANGELES, Feb. 19 /PRNewswire/ -- It may surprise some to realize that Guns N' Roses released only four full-length original albums, and two of those debuted simultaneously. But they were enough to forever change rock 'n' roll. Even more shocking is that one of the great bands in rock history, with its last studio album issued 10 years ago, has never had a "best of" compilation. Now it has. Welcome to the jungle with GREATEST HITS (Geffen), released March 23, 2004. With 14 selections housed in a digipak, GREATEST HITS features all eight of the band's Top 40 Billboard Hot 100 tracks (five of them RIAA-certified "gold," i.e., sales of more than 500,000 units). Along with spanning the group's five album releases, GREATEST HITS also marks the debut on a Guns N' Roses album of the band's cover of the Rolling Stones' "Sympathy For The Devil" for the 1995 film INTERVIEW WITH THE VAMPIRE. The first full-length album from GN'R, 1987's APPETITE FOR DESTRUCTION, is one of the most popular hard rock albums in history. As of February 21, 2004, the album has been on the Billboard Top 200 Albums or Top Pop Catalog chart for a total of 545 weeks. Selling more than 20 million copies worldwide -- 15 times platinum in the U.S. -- it charted #1 for five weeks. The album included three Top 10s: the gold #1 single "Sweet Child O' Mine," the anthem "Welcome To The Jungle" (#7) and the frenzied rocker "Paradise City" (#5). 1988's G N'R LIES, comprised of songs from the group's independently-released 1986 EP LIVE?!*@LIKE A SUICIDE plus new studio recordings, followed APPETITE FOR DESTRUCTION up the charts. Zooming to #2, the Grammy-nominated album (for Hard Rock Performance) was five times platinum (each platinum level connotes sales of more than one million units) and claimed the gold #4-charting ballad "Patience." Then, on September 17, 1991, with one of the most anticipated releases ever in music, both USE YOUR ILLUSION I and USE YOUR ILLUSION II debuted. I featured two gold singles with "November Rain" (#3) and "Don't Cry" (#10) plus another Top 40 with "Live And Let Die" (#33). II boasted another gold hit with the previously-released single "You Could Be Mine" (#29), heard in the film TERMINATOR II: JUDGEMENT DAY. Each of the USE YOUR ILLUSION albums went seven times platinum. I reached #2 and II reached #1. II was Grammy nominated for Best Hard Rock Performance as was the Wings cover "Live And Let Die." GREATEST HITS also culls from II "Yesterdays," "Civil War" and GN'R's take on Bob Dylan's "Knockin' On Heaven's Door." A collection of Guns N' Roses covers of classic, mainly punk, songs that had influenced the bandmembers since their early days, 1993's "THE SPAGHETTI INCIDENT?" hit #4 and platinum. Included on GREATEST HITS are its renditions of The Dead Boys' 1978 track "Ain't It Fun" and an unlikely cover of The Skyliners' '50s doo-wop gem "Since I Don't Have You. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haVoc 0 Report post Posted February 20, 2004 ~EDIT~ I completely read the last post wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Youth N Asia 0 Report post Posted February 20, 2004 It just bothers me that bands with so little released material are getting greatest hits albums and best ofs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Use Your Illusion 0 Report post Posted February 22, 2004 If anything, it will be a testiment to how great Guns N' Roses truly were and an easy way for casual listeners to experience both the 'crazy-outta-control' Guns N' Roses of the 1980's, where it looked like they were about to fucking explode on stage at any given moment, to the more subtle and cryptic Guns N' Roses that emerged in the early 90's. I agree, undeserving artists/bands do not deserve a greatest hits compliation (or those who've released too many already - Aerosmith, anyone?), but GNR are deserving of all the praise they recieve, at least in my eyes, and I see nothing wrong with this move, if it is actually *theirs*. UYI Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
