EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted March 3, 2004 I don't know how many ABs Myers is going to get this year. The Jays want to develop Kevin Cash as the catcher of the future so I think he'll get more playing time behind the plate and they probably don't want to take Phelps out of the line-up too often (if he plays well) to put Myers at DH. Keep an eye on Guillermo Quiroz. He hit 282/372/518 at Double A New Haven last season, at the age of 21. He should put in a year at AAA this season, and make the majors by 2005. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted March 3, 2004 If Traber is out for the season then I need to make a trade for a starting pitcher! Somebody send me some offers for a SP. Damn and its my luck that I drafted 2 starting pitchers who will be on the injury list when the season starts. Damn Yahoo news & notes BS, it said Traber signed a 1 year deal but forgot to mention that he is recovering from TOMMY JOHN SURGERY! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted March 4, 2004 Are there limits on Innings Pitched in the league this season? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Smell the ratings!!! Report post Posted March 4, 2004 1250? I think that's it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tom 0 Report post Posted March 4, 2004 Meh. My team seems mediocre. I like my first two starters, and I have a reliable closer, but speed is going to be a concern. Which is odd, because I've finished first in steals all four years I've been in my money league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted March 4, 2004 It is 1,250 innings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted March 4, 2004 Any chance of increasing the Innings Pitched? 1400? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted March 4, 2004 I'll consider it. Make me an argument in favor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarleyQuinn 0 Report post Posted March 4, 2004 What if we have pitchers that were injured/didn't pitch much last year? My 2003 total came out to 1168 IP however Ainsworth only pitched 68.1 IP when he could hopefully pitch at least 150 IP this season. Assuming everybody stayed the same and Ainsworth pitched, say the 150 innings, that bumps my team total up to 1249.9 IP which would be pretty damn close to exceeding. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted March 4, 2004 Both the public yahoo leagues and ALkeiper leagues use 7 pitchers but the AL league required 5 SP and the public has the 3 P which is flexable to choose between SP or RP. The average SP innings pitched is about 100, so why not increase the max number of innings pitched to around 1350? It would be fair. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted March 4, 2004 Well, if you come close, you cut back on the innings you use your pitchers. The basic premise of the limit is to keep you from cycling your bench players in every time one has a start up. If your 6 pitchers average 180 innings, and your closer/reliever gives you 80, that's 1160. Certainly plenty of room to spare. In order to reach 1400 innings, you'd have to use all seven pitching spots for 200 IP apiece. That seems excessive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lightning Flik 0 Report post Posted March 4, 2004 Both the public yahoo leagues and ALkeiper leagues use 7 pitchers but the AL league required 5 SP and the public has the 3 P which is flexable to choose between SP or RP. The average SP innings pitched is about 100, so why not increase the max number of innings pitched to around 1350? It would be fair. Excuse me? Do you mean MY league? Or Tom's? If you mean mine, mine's only got 2 P. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
treble 0 Report post Posted March 4, 2004 Both the public yahoo leagues and ALkeiper leagues use 7 pitchers but the AL league required 5 SP and the public has the 3 P which is flexable to choose between SP or RP. The average SP innings pitched is about 100, so why not increase the max number of innings pitched to around 1350? It would be fair. Bolded and stuff for emphasis. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lightning Flik 0 Report post Posted March 4, 2004 Both the public yahoo leagues and ALkeiper leagues use 7 pitchers but the AL league required 5 SP and the public has the 3 P which is flexable to choose between SP or RP. The average SP innings pitched is about 100, so why not increase the max number of innings pitched to around 1350? It would be fair. Bolded and stuff for emphasis. Eh? ...I asked about a third P. I did NOT give one. I was told no to the subject, so I left it as is. I've only got TWO right now. Bolded, italiced, and underlined for emphazing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Smell the ratings!!! Report post Posted March 4, 2004 the point is you aren't supposed to use all your pitcher's innings. it's like how you can only get 162 games at each batting position. Counting your bench players, you would probably be able to get more than that, but since it's roto, you aren't supposed to cycle guys in and out like you would in a head to head league. or something. I'm sleepy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted March 4, 2004 It was a question for the roto leagues. I was trying to compare Public Yahoo with the Private TSM leagues in hopes to get extra innings but ALkeiper said no. And anybody wanna make a trade? How about Sandy Jr for Coco Crisp? the point is you aren't supposed to use all your pitcher's innings. it's like how you can only get 162 games at each batting position. Counting your bench players, you would probably be able to get more than that, but since it's roto, you aren't supposed to cycle guys in and out like you would in a head to head league. or something. I'm sleepy. This is true as in the roto basketball league there is a 82 game limit and I already over and average of +14 per position at this point. This would be similiar to making a max limit of minutes played during a season. I think extra innings for the league of AL only, would be acceptable since it requires 5 starters. While the public league only requires 2 starters with 3 utility pitchers if you will. So in the public league a manager could rotate some RPs in the utility position to keep the inninings pitched low. But AL league re-aligned the pitchers to have only 2 RP so it limits the practice of loading up on BENCH pitchers to the rotation and going over the limit of innings pitched. I WANNA USE A PITCHER FOR EVERY INNING IN A GAME! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted March 4, 2004 It was a question for the roto leagues. I was trying to compare Public Yahoo with the Private TSM leagues in hopes to get extra innings but ALkeiper said no. I haven't said no. I just need a convincing argument. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted March 4, 2004 I see no reason to change it. Looking at this in the whole "real team" concept, 1250 IP makes sense. Look at the Cubs staff from last year, the starting pitchers and the top two relievers combined for 1168.2 IP and they had four 200 IP. I seriously doubt anyone in this league will have 4 pitchers who go to 200 IP considering there were only 22 in the AL who did it last year. But even if you have a staff on par with the Cubs you still have 80 IP to add in an extra reliever who ride an extra starter on a month long hot streak. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted March 4, 2004 Ok everyone. I have a proposal. Instead of having 5 SP, 1 RP, and 1 P, how about just having 7 P? This would allow people a little flexability, and avoid having teams destroyed simply due to lack of starters. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Smell the ratings!!! Report post Posted March 4, 2004 well we could do that, but starters totally own relivers in fantasy. There ERA and WHIP carry more weight, and they get more K's and wins. what I mean is I think if someone uses 3 or 4 starters instead of 5, they would have no chance of winning. but I'm not against the change if that's what you're asking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted March 4, 2004 That would keep people using starters. The change is simply to give people the option, in the event a team simply can not find a starter anywhere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted March 4, 2004 4 SP 3 P? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted March 4, 2004 That's doable as well. Here's what I'm going to do. I'm throwing this out towards the teams in the league. Vote on the rules you want. Tomorrow evening, I'll review the responses and make decisions. Do you want...... 5 SP, 1 RP, 1 P 4 SP, 3 P 7 P Do you want...... 1250 IP 1300 IP 1400 IP Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted March 4, 2004 4 SP 3 P and 1300 innings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarleyQuinn 0 Report post Posted March 4, 2004 4 SP, 3 RP and 1300 Innings Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted March 4, 2004 I like any of the combinations (# of P and # of IP) except for 4 SP and 3 RP, we already drafted under the assumption that we needed 5 SPs and that RP were less necessary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cartman 0 Report post Posted March 5, 2004 keep as is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lightning Flik 0 Report post Posted March 5, 2004 Keep as is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Der Kommissar 0 Report post Posted March 5, 2004 Keep as is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted March 5, 2004 I would like to suggest that any changes to be made should only be made in the NL ONLY league since it has not drafted yet. Remember it is a 16 team league which is the LARGEST and it will be a tougher draft since there are more managers involved. I fear that I will have to start Ray King in my pitching rotation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
