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[Slickster 0]

That is the problem. Backyarders see wrestling as a hobby. Real wreslters see it as a job or even as their life. (Sad as it may seem, I've made wrestling my life. Dedication baby!) That is another reason it's a black mark against wrestling. It makes it seem less like a sport or art and more like a moronic hobby.

Here's a better comparison: it's like baseball.

 

Some guys live their lives trying to make it to the big leagues. They see it as a lifestyle.

 

Others just have fun with it and play against their friends or in local leagues. They see it as a hobby.

 

 

I haven't heard pros call non-pros a 'black mark' on baseball just because they don't want to play in MLB.

[Corey_Lazarus 0]

Re: "like teaching themselves guitar" comment...

 

The problem is that if you botch a chord, you just get a "fart" noise. You botch a piledriver, though, and you're looking at possible paralysis.

 

That said, I backyard with a few of my friends now and then, and I'll be the first to admit we shouldn't be trying half of the shit we do (my friend Chris once gave me an overhead belly-to-belly, but didn't release soon enough, so I had to roll to the side, making it look like shit, so I wouldn't land on my head). It's still fun, though.

[Slickster 0]

The problem is that if you botch a chord, you just get a "fart" noise. You botch a piledriver, though, and you're looking at possible paralysis.

You're absolutely right, the risks are greater. I can't possibly deny that.

 

But I'd just like to remind everyone that people aren't forced to do backyard wrestling...people consent to do this and know the risks involved.

[Mrnoitaull 0]

Actually I have been tryin to find one here in Maryland.

 

Anyone know of any ?

[dubq 0]

That is the problem. Backyarders see wrestling as a hobby. Real wreslters see it as a job or even as their life. (Sad as it may seem, I've made wrestling my life. Dedication baby!) That is another reason it's a black mark against wrestling. It makes it seem less like a sport or art and more like a moronic hobby.

Here's a better comparison: it's like baseball.

 

Some guys live their lives trying to make it to the big leagues. They see it as a lifestyle.

 

Others just have fun with it and play against their friends or in local leagues. They see it as a hobby.

 

 

I haven't heard pros call non-pros a 'black mark' on baseball just because they don't want to play in MLB.

Uh, no, I'd say the comparison there would be wrestling for the indy's if you didn't want to make it to the big leagues. Backyard is more like the idiot stepchild with down's syndrome of wrestling.

[Slickster 0]

That is the problem. Backyarders see wrestling as a hobby. Real wreslters see it as a job or even as their life. (Sad as it may seem, I've made wrestling my life. Dedication baby!) That is another reason it's a black mark against wrestling. It makes it seem less like a sport or art and more like a moronic hobby.

Here's a better comparison: it's like baseball.

 

Some guys live their lives trying to make it to the big leagues. They see it as a lifestyle.

 

Others just have fun with it and play against their friends or in local leagues. They see it as a hobby.

 

 

I haven't heard pros call non-pros a 'black mark' on baseball just because they don't want to play in MLB.

Uh, no, I'd say the comparison there would be wrestling for the indy's if you didn't want to make it to the big leagues. Backyard is more like the idiot stepchild with down's syndrome of wrestling.

So, rather than make a valid contribution to this thread, you decided to use my analogy to make a puerile comment about your dislike of backyard wrestling.

 

 

Good jearb.

[The Kid 0]

Look, you could get seriously injured by a clothesline or even an elbowdrop. My gosh, learn how to do it right...you could even fuck up your back by taking a bump wrong. BYW is the stupidest thing and I wish the idiots that do it would understand that. Get some real training!

[natey2k4 0]

Okay.. this thread is a bit old but I thought I'd refresh it with my thoughts on Backyarding.

 

Now, I'm glad to say that I have trained (a few times, and will continue too when school is not on) at the Can Am Wrestling School. I'm going to continue to do that, because Wrestling is my life. I want to be an Indy wrestler, and hopefully someday make it to the spotlight..

 

But.........

 

Unlike most people, I do not find legitmate Backyarding stupid. Backyarding with Weapons, Fire, and Crazy Jumps is retarded, but Backyarding where people just go to have fun and hang out with their friends is fine. Sure they may not know how to do moves, but give me a break.. its not like most of them really try anything. Alot of Backyarding is fake punches, and headlocks, and a clothesline or two.. It's not like its anything horrible. I've backyarded before, because I love wrestling.. and everytime I do it.. it gives me that feeling of how much of my life that is.. and how much I want to be a wrestler. When I backyard, I'm not going to be a moron and try Overhead Suplexes, Superplexes, Shooting Star Presses... I'll do.. punching, kicking, DDTs, Arm Bars, Headlocks, Submissions, ... nothing that's got a high chance of hurting someone. I do it for fun, and to have a good time... not to get onto tapes or any of that shit. IMO, Backyarding for the the most part is just a group of friends having fun, and spending time together (and some groups, like mine.. live a bit away so when I backyard.. its more or less to see friends, and do something that we just have fun doing)

 

Oh and if you do commentary in BYW.. you definately have to use ICP type commentating lmao:P

[Guest W_Hillard]

As a former backyard wrestler, I feel I need to step up and say something.

 

1) First off, it is dangerous. Highly dangerous. That somebody was damn near paralyzed in a Boston Crab scares the ever living fuck out of me. Realize that if you get in there and try a hold that you're not all that familiar with, somebody is likely to get hurt.

 

2) If you're gonna wrestle, get in shape. There's a reason why most of the pro's are bodybuilders. Even the "fat" wrestlers are in a hell of a lot better shape than your average man.

 

3) If you can, go to a school and train. Schools aren't that hard to find. They're pricey, but often worth it. Failing that, get a copy of every wrestling match you can lay your hands and and study them for several hours a day. I didn't say "watch," I said study. When you see a hold being used that you want to learn, pause the tape/DVD, and take a long hard look at what both guys are doing. It's nowhere near as good as being trained, but it may just keep you from getting hurt.

 

4) Learn to break your fall. There's a reason why some guy's have very long careers. You can use an old mattress to do this (and some of the moves, likes suplex's) with a reduced risk of injury. Hell, a few classes at just about any martial arts school will teach you this.

 

5) Buy some insurance. Some good insurance. Even the pro's get hurt every once in a while. And most of them you see on tv have been doing their job for a few years at least.

 

6) Reconsider what you're doing. It's NOT the same thing that you see in the ring. Not by a long shot.

 

Honestly, I miss being a backyard wrestler. It was fun. It's also dangerous. My fucking back still aches from time to time from wrestling, though. I don't recommend it to anybody.

 

Good luck.

[Slickster 0]

That somebody was damn near paralyzed in a Boston Crab scares the ever living fuck out of me.

Where did you hear that from?

[Guest W_Hillard]

The reason is, one of our wrestlers, The Overtaker, was put in a boston crab by a wretler know as "Big Ed" (who is not under contract at this time, but will be soon) and "Big Ed" lost his balance, fell backwards, and nearly paralized the Overtaker.

 

Very first post in the thread (O.J. Hart).

 

This scares the fuck out of me. Trampoline matches aren't exactly safe to begin with. This... is inexcusable.

[Guest Bushido]

DDTs

You do know a botched DDT could cause a serious concussion, or even paralysis, right? ANY move that drops you on any part of your body should not be used unless you are properly trained. Same thing with top rope moves and submissions.

[Guest W_Hillard]

DDTs

You do know a botched DDT could cause a serious concussion, or even paralysis, right? ANY move that drops you on any part of your body should not be used unless you are properly trained. Same thing with top rope moves and submissions.

Seconded like a motherfucker.

[Slayer 0]

Less backyard wrestling, more backyard porn

[UseTheSledgehammerUh 0]

"Big Ed" not under contract?

 

INVASSSSION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Seriously, you guys are dweebs. Sit in the stands, all of you backyard marks.

[Guest jcmar3x]

Hollywood Fasion Plate, I also helped found an NCW, although mine ended up a bit differently from yours.

 

Back in 1997 (I was 14 at the time) my cousin Mike and I started our own backyard "wrestling" promtion, with just a couple of my highschool friends. We eventually went to Home Depot, and with four 4X4's, bungee cord, alot of duct tape, and two stolen gym mats from my local church, we had NCW's first ring.

 

Our NCW was a cheesy knockoff of "wrestling", a far cry from WWF or even the hardcore nature of the "BYW" tapes, our most hardcore weapon at one point was a Super Mario Bros. 2 trash can, used by the ever dangerous Platypus Man.

 

We continued with our cheesy ways until 1999, when I got hooked up with a few local indy workers, since I had started going to some shows earlier that year. Dubbed "The Supermarks" (my cousin Mike and I), we quickly gained a following with the workers, and they let us rent their ring at a cheap discount since I began ring announcing for them during the Summer. With our newfound ring, we quickly gained notoriety with other small backyard/underground/dorm wrestling leagues, and began feeding "talent" into NCW shows, which went reasonably well until the night I realized we had become a joke and had to make a decision.

 

On December 29th, 1999 we where running a show in Seekonk, MA at the local American Legion Hall. We had run two other shows there, and we did it mainly for friends and family. This night we where using Travis Savage, a legend of Rhode Island backyarders, and a founder of the U.S.W.F. and S.C.L.A. Travis' girlfriend brought a friend with her that night, none other than Matt Hyson, or on any other night, Spike Dudley, who of course resides in Lincoln, RI. At this point it sunk in my stomach that me and my friends where nothing but jokes to these guys. Sure I had friends that where in the crowd who where workers, but we weren't workers, we where wannabees, especially seeing Violent Chad call for a "acid drop" to Spike, only to completely botch the spot and fall on his ass.

 

Worse off, on this night one of "talent" exchanges, John Phear, decided to do a wrestling exhibition with some of his boys, including Tim Kilgore and Chris Venom, who you might know from NECW these days if your in the area. Anyway, as the promoter I finally had enough of their shit, went to the ring to put an end to it, and was quickly shot on, with Kilgore dropkicking me in the corner after being stiffed by Phear. Thankfully Spike had already left the building.

 

After this point I decided that if NCW was going to stick around, it would have to evolve with the times, and I quickly instituted a no train, no work policy. We soon became a developmental promotion thanks to help from The Damned and drew okay to decent crowds in surrounding areas like Natick, MA and Bristol, RI until the promotion folded in 2002 due to financial reasons (I'm a broke bastard basically).

 

I guess the moral is any backyarder can make better for himself, once they realize the stakes they play could get them hurt and seriously injured... Or laughed at by a Dudley.

[Corey_Lazarus 0]

I'd just like to say, JC, that it'd be a lot cooler if Eddie Edwards was there instead of Chris Venom, since Edwards >>>>>>> anybody else in NECW.

 

Also, fuck Frankie. If you find the tape of the Framingham show just before Birthday Bash (I think it was in July), me and my girlfriend were the only people cheering for Sain (Mike Osborne) over Frankie. We were pissed when Frankie won. It's fun going to NECW. I can be a mark again.

 

But yeah...backyarding is fun. I'm going to do a swan-dive off of my roof through a table which has my buddy Chris under it, and then hit a DDT into thumbtacks. B-Y-W! B-Y-W!

 

And Fashion Plate, my town has EWA on public access. Is this the same as NCW Northeast?