Lightning Flik 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2004 Yeah, now who are they gonna build as their top big homemade star? ... ohmygod It's either A-Train, Bob Holly, or Billy Gunn. What's the lesser of the three evils Anglesault? I wasn't limiting it to SD!, I just wanted to know who the company would push as their big homemade project. I was limiting it to SD. If it wasn't limited to SD, I would probably follow suit with your "OH MY GOD" comment. Because that means he'd get pushed to even greater heights than before... Which means he'd probably be shoved down our throats ten times worse than he was before. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Wood Caulfield 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2004 Wow. I can't believe it. Who now wins the WrestleMania match? And how exactly will WWE explain his absensce? Or will he just be erased from history even though he has been a main eventer for the past two years? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eirejmcmahon 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2004 Don't worry Vince - Undertaker and HHH are money in the bank over the next ten years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest nikowwf Report post Posted March 10, 2004 I don't remember who said it, but the reason Brock can get out of his contract is he's not going to wrestle. I'm sure he'll still have a wrestling non-compete. My question to you is this - who wins that match now? niko Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2004 So Austin stuns both of them to end the match at Mania and declares himself the winner, right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NYU 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2004 Why are people justifying this? When you're a Main-Eventer, you have to put up with certain shit that you might not have to deal with if you had a lower role in the company. There have been plenty of guys before Brock Lesnar that had to deal with the stress of being on top, and there will be plenty of guys after Brock that will have to do the same. Feuding with shitty wrestlers or stupid gimmicks? Plenty of guys have had to do that. Bret Hart was stuck feuding with Jean Pierre-Layfette and Hakushi. Undertaker had some inane, stupid feuds with Kama Mustafa and Giant Gonzalez. Shawn Michaels? Feuding with the British Bulldog over allegations of raping Diana Hart. Triple H? Why, necrophilia, of course. The Rock? A completely unover Billy Gunn. Heavyweight Champions have had to deal with garbage before - that's a part of being the Champ. To attempt to bring others up to your level and to convey it as well as possible to the crowd. Why is it absolutely ridiculous for Brock to be feuding with Hardcore Holly for a month or to wrestle him at various house shows? He wasn't being mistreated! He was doing the job of a Champion! To feud with someone, to build up the idea that this opponent COULD become champion, to get the fans enthralled in the feud.....building up the other wrestlers is something a champion should do. It's terrible that some here are acting as if Brock should be offended that he had to try to help Holly's career. If you're not planning to do that, and instead you're going to bitch the entire time, then you don't have the heart of a champion. WWE gave Brock everything they could to try to keep him happy. They gave him an INSTA-PUSH as soon as he stepped foot into a WWE ring. The man had a singles undefeated streak from April all the way to November, meanwhile winning the King of the Ring tournament and defeating the Rock at a major PPV to win the WWE Heavyweight Title. He began to complain about traveling, so Vince agreed to pay for a PRIVATE PLANE for Brock. He had a pretty nice contract with a salary that some people can only dream of. They gave Brock what they could to keep him satisifed, but yet he continues to bitch. Now he's quitting wrestling to go into the NFL. Good riddance! WWE doesn't need these kinds of wrestlers in their company. They don't need the wrestlers that are going to whine about being put in a feud against the #1 face in the company, and asked to sell a little more than usual. They don't need someone who's going to bitch about facing Hardcore Holly on a house show tour. They don't need someone who's now going to complain about the travel schedule, even though he's getting extra benefits that nobody else does. Big Show has to cram himself into a small airplane in order to fly around the country to make house shows. Have we heard him complain and threaten to leave? No! He has the passion that Brock doesn't have. I truly feel that some people are justifying Brock's departure because they thought he was a good wrestler. That definitely isn't the right way to look at this incident. He's leaving a company that made as many attempts as possible to make him happy. He's leaving a company that may sorely need him as a top heel on Smackdown. He's leaving this company, whining and moaning and complaining the entire way, just because he didn't like the direction they were taking his character - something that many wrestlers before him had to deal with before. So if this truly is his last week in WWE, I wish him luck in the NFL (even though I highly doubt the pressures are much less there than they are in WWE). And I hope WWE begins to thrive with his absence, because they don't need quitters and moaners on their roster. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest thetrendsetter Report post Posted March 10, 2004 someone's going to HAVE to move to Smackdown now boys to fill the Top Heel void... especially if Edge is going to Raw... although Big Show and Cena stand to benefit huge from this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
QuestionMan 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2004 The Undertaker and Triple H have told Vince that they are willing to step it up to fill the absence of Stone Cold and The Ro---erm, Brock Lesnar and Bill Goldberg. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Sandusky 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2004 . Geezus, they've lost their biggest creation. Yeah, now who are they gonna build as their top big homemade star? ... ohmygod FIRST TIME EVER: A Negative Anglesault Post gets a laugh out of me. They're pretty fucked now, as Lesnar's the only one of the "new guard" who's in the main event scene. They're going to have to send some "name people" to Smackdown to fill the void now, but that might not even do it, as no one on the Raw side of things is really all that strong except for the participants in the main event at Wrestlemania. I suppose something like this locks up a Kane jump to Smackdown, but... fuck. I got nothing on this one. Damn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
QuestionMan 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2004 He began to complain about traveling, so Vince agreed to pay for a PRIVATE PLANE for Brock. Brock paid for the plane out of his own pocket. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NYU 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2004 He began to complain about traveling, so Vince agreed to pay for a PRIVATE PLANE for Brock. Brock paid for the plane out of his own pocket. Vince agreed to cover the costs, since it would wind up being cheaper for him than it would normally. Yet, no one else is being given the opportunity to have their own plane. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deancoles 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2004 Hogan and The Outsiders are probably waiting by the phone for a desperate mcmahon begging them to come back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted March 10, 2004 Why is it absolutely ridiculous for Brock to be feuding with Hardcore Holly for a month or to wrestle him at various house shows? Because it's Bob Holly. Just because Taker and HBK and Hart did it in one of the company's weakest periods doesn't mean they should do it again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
QuestionMan 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2004 He began to complain about traveling, so Vince agreed to pay for a PRIVATE PLANE for Brock. Brock paid for the plane out of his own pocket. Vince agreed to cover the costs, since it would wind up being cheaper for him than it would normally. Yet, no one else is being given the opportunity to have their own plane. I don't know where you heard that version of the story, but it's not right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DerangedHermit 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2004 You know who could actually benefit from this? Goldberg. He's in a position where he can ask for more $$$, and the massive hole left by Brock could force McMahon to panic and sign GB. He could do a Hulk Hogan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
QuestionMan 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2004 I think it's safe to say that Edge isn't going to RAW now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
QuestionMan 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2004 If they really want to stick it to Lesnar, have him do an injury angle after the Goldberg/Lesnar match where Bob Holly "breaks" his neck and gets his revenge. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NYU 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2004 He began to complain about traveling, so Vince agreed to pay for a PRIVATE PLANE for Brock. Brock paid for the plane out of his own pocket. Vince agreed to cover the costs, since it would wind up being cheaper for him than it would normally. Yet, no one else is being given the opportunity to have their own plane. I don't know where you heard that version of the story, but it's not right. Brock Lesnar has been getting some heat backstage recently for what many see as him having a big head already. Some excuse his behavior by saying he is young and hasn't learned how to deal with fame yet. Interestingly enough, Lesnar has been very frustrated with his travel schedule and went as far as to buy a $400,000 plane. WWE is picking up his travel expenses and the salary for his pilot. The new plane will actually save WWE some $50,000 to $75,000 per year. Lesnar was also a bit upset about having to lose the WWE Title to Eddie Guerrero before WrestleMania. Lesnar figured that had he been champion, his WMXX match with Goldberg would be positioned higher on the card and thus his payoff from the big gate would be bigger. Overall though, he was happy with how his match with Guerrero came off and is looking forward to his match with Goldberg. Credit: PWTorch Newsletter Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Perfxion 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2004 Well, three things could happen: 1- Extend the Eddie/Angle feud for the time being. 2- Ship RVD or Booker T to SD to level out possible feuds. 3- Hope Edge is ready to return ASAP for a new top level wrestler. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EdwardKnoxII 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2004 Brock paid for the plane out of his own pocket. Vince agreed to cover the costs, since it would wind up being cheaper for him than it would normally. Yet, no one else is being given the opportunity to have their own plane. I'm pretty sure guys like the Big Show and UT can afford one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted March 10, 2004 This is monumental, it’s almost Bret Hart 1997 levels here, the only difference is, and Vince can’t capitalize on Brock’s departure like he did Bret. Vince won’t screw Brock because he could still come back at some point in time. Who does Raw lose to compensate? Move Jericho and RVD over? WMXX has REALLY gotten interesting, No longer are we looking to see how Goldberg is shipped off but how Lesnar gets treated, we’ve known like WWE that ‘Berg was leaving a long time ago…this DRAMATICALLY shakes everything up now, this is EASILY the biggest story to hit WWE in a long time and you just KNOW that NYC mainstream will pick this up and reveal it, putting WWE in a REAL deep hole…. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lightning Flik 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2004 Well, three things could happen: 1- Extend the Eddie/Angle feud for the time being. 2- Ship RVD or Booker T to SD to level out possible feuds. 3- Hope Edge is ready to return ASAP for a new top level wrestler. Option one is at least doable and a healthy idea. However the WWE has thought it would be best not to have Kurt Angle anywhere near the top of the card post-Mania. Option two doesn't really help. So RVD or Booker T go to SD. It'll still be quite awhile before they get to respectable main event status (at least in the eyes of the WWE) again, so I don't think that'll happen anytime soon. Unless the WWE are willing to have the patience to do so. Option three only works if Edge doesn't return to RAW. I'm hoping to our Almighty Wrestling God that this doesn't happen, but most likely Edge is going to RAW still. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted March 10, 2004 Brock paid for the plane out of his own pocket. Vince agreed to cover the costs, since it would wind up being cheaper for him than it would normally. Yet, no one else is being given the opportunity to have their own plane. I'm pretty sure guys like the Big Show and UT can afford one. Exactly...Many workers can afford them (at least the upper tier) but don't...out of respect and the fact it's not really neccesary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest thetrendsetter Report post Posted March 10, 2004 They need to sign Abyss Now... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
humongous2002 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2004 Well he did the right thing, he quit the bitching and he got the fuck out. Hopefully Vince doesn't pay tons of money for Shitberg to stay, and i don't think Edge is the solution for this problem. Vince should let the 2 fags(HHH/HBK) control RAW. And have RVD,Jericho and Book traded to SD. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haVoc 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2004 Will Edge, RVD and Booker all become heel over night? Them being there as faces along with Eddie, Taker and even Cena sure doesn't fill the monster heel spot Lesnar had. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Goodear Report post Posted March 10, 2004 Let me just say if this proves to be a false story that it will be part of my new mission in life to delete all threads that start from that site's rumors forevermore. Just saying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deancoles 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2004 I bet Vince wishes he could somehow sign Bob Sapp. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NYU 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2004 Brock paid for the plane out of his own pocket. Vince agreed to cover the costs, since it would wind up being cheaper for him than it would normally. Yet, no one else is being given the opportunity to have their own plane. I'm pretty sure guys like the Big Show and UT can afford one. Exactly...Many workers can afford them (at least the upper tier) but don't...out of respect and the fact it's not really neccesary. But it may be a bit of a stretch to suggest that WWE would be willing to pay for the travel expenses and pilots of each Main Eventer's private plane. But perhaps they would. Who knows? With that said.... .....the plane purchase continues to drive home the fact that Brock is an egotistical prick. He's staying isolated from the rest of the roster by traveling alone in the luxury of a private plane. Why do they need guys like this? Especially when he's going to bitch about his travel schedule two weeks later. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cherry Blossom Viscount 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2004 I just found it odd that he thanked Big Show? I guess he was some sort of mentor to Lesnar, probably explaining their year long pairing and off and on feuds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites