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Brock Lesnar quits WWE after Mania!

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So he was booked improperly two times in two years so it's ok for you to just fucking walk away from the company, hurting not only booking plans but others throughout the company?

 

I don't think so.

 

I have more respect for a Mark Henry than I ever will for Brock Lesnar if this is true. Brock may be worlds better than Mark, but at least Mark is a professional.

 

I'm not saying that you should just sit back and take whatever they tell you to do, that's retarded as well. If you are pissed, then you need to be vocal in a professional way, and try to get things done. I think it's safe to say that Brock of all people was in a posistion to get things done if he really wanted to do it the right way.

 

Besides, like I said, EVERYONE has a down point in their career, it's just how things are. Brock is only two years in the business, he's foolish to think that everything is going to be perfectly smooth sailing for him at this point.

 

Everyone gets booked poorly at some point in their career. Everyone from the very best to the very best, but it's never an excuse to just leave everyone hanging when the company really needs you, period.

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As much as I think this sucks...I can't really blame the guy.

 

He wasn't happy doing what he was doing, so he quit.

 

I think the reasons are meaningless; he didn't like doing it, so he quit. How can you blame him for that?

 

Besides, he could be NOT wrestling this match at WM.

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He's leaving AFTER the PPV, with creative lacking a program for him post-Mania that'll involve putting over "loyalists" UNDER the age of 38.

He tells them mere days before the big PPV that he's just packing up his stuff and going home, that's not professional. The man signed a seven year contract, SEVEN YEARS, and he's already going to just quit like a child. His quiting not only hurts the WM show, but it also hurts WWEs post-Mania plans, as well as NEXT year's Mania plans which we have all heard about for weeks now.

 

If he is a pussy, he should've informed WWE of that before he even joined the company.

 

Like I said, I don't even think this has all that much to do with who he's been booked against and everything. I think he jumped into something and he found out that it's not for him, that's cool. He simply should have went about leaving in a different way. He should have thought about everything before he signed on long term.

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I really hope this is all a work. Because it would support my theory that Vince has to start working the smarts if he wants wrestling to adapt to this new millennium of Internet spoilers and reality TV and such.

 

Also, because I'd rather Lesnar didn't leave. That would reduce my reasons for watching wrestling by about a fifth. :(

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That's why I did the Brock - Cartman analogy. He basically said ::Cartman's Voice::, "Screw you guys, I'm going home."

 

He acted like a baby. You may not want to admit it, but he in fact did. It doesn't make him less of a man (in my opinion anyway) but I'm sure he lost ALOT of respect from the talent in the back.

 

Why would Brock give a shit what any of the whiny little cunts in the back think about anything? They're always the ones, if you believe the sheets, bitching and crying about the same sorts of things Brock is leaving for, but none of them ever does a damn thing about it. He's the only one of them with any sack whatsoever. Screw them all, he's going home.

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So he was booked improperly two times in two years so it's

He hasn't been booked well in a year.

 

This is the man who went from Backlash to the Iron Man match without pinning anyone.

 

This is the man, who, while teaming with the Big Show, lost 3 times in one match.

 

This is a man who was booked in a Pseudo-Gay relationship with Kurt Angle.

 

This is a man who needed four men to run in and help him win a match against Undertaker.

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Let him leave but he took so much from the business. He won The King of the Ring, won the WWE Undisputed Title, won the Royal Rumble and won the title at Wrestlemania. That is a lot in a short amount of time, so where does he go from here? Sure he has the build to play in NFL but how much experience does he have playing football? How will the company explain his absence?

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He's leaving AFTER the PPV, with creative lacking a program for him post-Mania that'll involve putting over "loyalists" UNDER the age of 38.

He tells them mere days before the big PPV that he's just packing up his stuff and going home, that's not professional. The man signed a seven year contract, SEVEN YEARS, and he's already going to just quit like a child. His quiting not only hurts the WM show, but it also hurts WWEs post-Mania plans,

oh you mean the post Mania plans the entailed getting destroyed and ruined by the Undertaker.

 

Damn that Brock.

 

DAMN HIM I SAY!

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He's leaving AFTER the PPV, with creative lacking a program for him post-Mania that'll involve putting over "loyalists" UNDER the age of 38.

He tells them mere days before the big PPV that he's just packing up his stuff and going home, that's not professional.

What's your idea of being professional?

 

The man signed a seven year contract, SEVEN YEARS, and he's already going to just quit like a child.

 

He's not quitting - that would be a breach of contract.

 

Vince retains the rights to his contract in professional wrestling, and would probably manuever himself to maintain a cut of Lesnar's contract, if he's going into acting or football (ala Rock).

 

His quiting not only hurts the WM show, but it also hurts WWEs post-Mania plans, as well as NEXT year's Mania plans which we have all heard about for weeks now.

 

So Taker gets to go over someone else post-Mania, without a future program for Brock - Lesnar leaving doesn't affect ANYONE that matters.

 

I think he jumped into something and he found out that it's not for him, that's cool. He simply should have went about leaving in a different way. He should have thought about everything before he signed on long term.

 

Brock signed the long-term contract in 2002, which only matters because the WWE increased the international dates THIS YEAR, which is Brock's main beef with the schedule.

 

It's completely understandable for him to leave under these circumstances, considering Nathan Jones left the company during a hometown tour last December for the same reasons.

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I really hope this is all a work. Because it would support my theory that Vince has to start working the smarts if he wants wrestling to adapt to this new millennium of Internet spoilers and reality TV and such.

 

Also, because I'd rather Lesnar didn't leave. That would reduce my reasons for watching wrestling by about a fifth.  :(

I don't see how that works though--are you more or less inclined to purchase the PPV knowing that the main event (though it obviously won't be positioned that way on the card now) will probably be short and end in a screwy, unsatisfying fashion? I don't see any upside to this being a work. Someone pretending to leave the company, I dunno, what's the payoff to that? They come back? Yay! Pop! But then what? It makes no sense. Oh, wait, I guess that means it probably is a work. Never mind.

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What isn't he doing with Sable is probably a shorter answer.

 

:wub:

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First of all, this should have been another thread. When I read the title this morning I thought this was about Lesnar taking some time off. Too late now.

 

Second of all, HOLY SHIT!

 

Third of all, while I do think they're in trouble, they do have the resources to pick up the pieces. they've already put Eddie in the top spot, ditto with Benoit, and they still have Cena, Edge, Angle, Kane, Rey, and Orton (despite his rep). Whether they do that (HHH) is uncertain.

 

And finally, I bet Vince isn't gonna let anyone go now.

 

Steven Richards: Uh, Vince, what's this pink slip in my locker?

 

Vince: WHAT?! Nothing, nothing, my mistake.:tears up slip:

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Am I the only one that can imagine vince secretly going:

 

"He'll be back...they always come back.."

*evil laugh to himself*

Not if your name is Bruno.

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So he was booked improperly two times in two years so it's

He hasn't been booked well in a year.

 

This is the man who went from Backlash to the Iron Man match without pinning anyone.

 

This is the man, who, while teaming with the Big Show, lost 3 times in one match.

 

This is a man who was booked in a Pseudo-Gay relationship with Kurt Angle.

 

This is a man who needed four men to run in and help him win a match against Undertaker.

This is a man who won the title in a WrestleMania main event and had the biggest lame duck championship of all time.

 

 

I believe the Great Kong Reign of early to mid 2003 was worse than Jericho's run with the belts.

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HOLY SHIT!!!!!! Extremely big news here.......

 

 

What makes Lesnar think he's gonna be drafted in the NFL.....you can't just decide you're going into the NFL. Did he even play football in high school or college? Making the NFL is extremely improbable.

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he was told by scouts that he had the right build for it...

 

This is the EXACT same thing Vince told Nathan Jones just so you know.

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Reading through this thread, I can say that the only person I am totally agreeing with here is Downhome.

 

Don't come back Lesnar.

 

UYI

Im willing to bet he'll be back by the end of the year after he gets cut in training camp by whatever team in the NFL takes a chance on him (if hes actually serious about going after an NFL career).

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I guess he'd go for a bunch of those walk on try out camp deals.

He can do that.........but he's gotta go to a combine and stuff......and think of this, by the time he gets to camp he'll be 27.....in the NFL depending on the position you play you start to go downhill after 32.

 

 

I can't see an NFL team taking a chance on someone with no football experience, who's 5 years older than anyone else in the draft, no matter how much athletic ability he has.

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HOLY SHIT!!!!!! Extremely big news here.......

 

 

What makes Lesnar think he's gonna be drafted in the NFL.....you can't just decide you're going into the NFL. Did he even play football in high school or college? Making the NFL is extremely improbable.

Can I just say bullshit to the extremely improbable?

 

If a team out there thinks that Brock Lesnar is worthy enough to be drafted by the NFL, trust me there ARE teams out there that would.

 

I'm specifically looking at the two teams that didn't get to have him the first time around. You think that just because Lesnar did a two year stint with the WWE that they would go "well, geez, we don't want you now. Even though all you probably need is a good amount of time to get ready for the next season say from now till then."

 

Besides, as I said before, I don't doubt that there are teams that wouldn't try signing him. Think of the merchindise they could sell by having former WWE superstar, Brock Lesnar's jersey. And if he actually does a hell of a lot of good which could very well happen? Expect a lot of stuff of his to sell. The owners are sitting there and definitely thinking about it. Hell, for Lesnar to consider going to the NFL indicates that SOMEONE has interests in him.

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Does anybody else think this might be one of those asinine 'work the smarts' deals? With Goldberg all-but-assured to be gone after Sunday, yet still involved with such a big match, it seems to be a bad thing if the winner of the match seems "too obvious."

 

By planting this idea, now we're left not knowing who will win Sunday, adding some intrigue to the match.

 

I'm just saying...

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Dan Synder will have Lesnar signed by next thursday for a 3 year $39 mil deal

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Reading through this thread, I can say that the only person I am totally agreeing with here is Downhome.

 

Don't come back Lesnar.

 

UYI

Im willing to bet he'll be back by the end of the year after he gets cut in training camp by whatever team in the NFL takes a chance on him (if hes actually serious about going after an NFL career).

And after he finds that nothing but wrestling will work for him, Vince will make him take half of the salary he was earning before he left as his going rate.

 

Hell, that's what I'd do.

 

Shame there is no WCW around these days, as Lesnar showing up on Nitro the night after WMXX would be monumental in every sense of the word (hypothetical only, i *KNOW* he's burnt out from wrestling etc. etc.)

 

UYI

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HOLY SHIT!!!!!! Extremely big news here.......

 

 

  What makes Lesnar think he's gonna be drafted in the NFL.....you can't just decide you're going into the NFL.  Did he even play football in high school or college?  Making the NFL is extremely improbable.

Can I just say bullshit to the extremely improbable?

 

If a team out there thinks that Brock Lesnar is worthy enough to be drafted by the NFL, trust me there ARE teams out there that would.

 

I'm specifically looking at the two teams that didn't get to have him the first time around. You think that just because Lesnar did a two year stint with the WWE that they would go "well, geez, we don't want you now. Even though all you probably need is a good amount of time to get ready for the next season say from now till then."

 

Besides, as I said before, I don't doubt that there are teams that wouldn't try signing him. Think of the merchindise they could sell by having former WWE superstar, Brock Lesnar's jersey. And if he actually does a hell of a lot of good which could very well happen? Expect a lot of stuff of his to sell. The owners are sitting there and definitely thinking about it. Hell, for Lesnar to consider going to the NFL indicates that SOMEONE has interests in him.

Let me ask you something.......do you honestly think the NFL gives a shit about Brock Lesnar and merchandising in the WWE. NFL is the number 1 sport, attendance, rating, and popularity wise in the country. They couldn't care less about Brocks ties with WWE.

 

 

Like I said before........Drafting a 27 year old with NO football experience is VERY risky.

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Reading through this thread, I can say that the only person I am totally agreeing with here is Downhome.

 

Don't come back Lesnar.

 

UYI

Please, please don't tell me you find nothing wrong in a guy who was promoted to be the next star, who's fucking slogan was "The Next Big Thing", jobbing in a feud to a guy who in effect is The Old Big Thing.

 

No matter how much of a Taker mark you are, there's some bad logic in that.

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