Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2004 "Whose Eric S.?" A writer for 411 who spends most of his columns discussing politics. He's very, very, very far left. MMkay, how about a link? I am interested in hearing what this guy has to say. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Sandusky 0 Report post Posted March 21, 2004 Given the usual attitude of this board, "very, very, very far left" translates into "leftist moderate" in real-world terms. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted March 21, 2004 Given the usual attitude of this board, "very, very, very far left" translates into "leftist moderate" in real-world terms. I know that much, but I'm still curious in reading what a wrestling columnist has to say politically. I vaguely remember someone saying that he was actually a pretty intelligent guy too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dynamite Kido Report post Posted March 22, 2004 Let's go in order here: 1) I've seen MORE than my fair share of puro (I've been liquidating my tape collection and my collection of Japanese wrestling is nothing to sneeze at) and I can say, based on my experience, that Japanese wrestling is laden with bad selling that even Michaels would mock and head drops. It has the whole vibe of being different that make people take it for more than it was. If people attached the same standards to ANY of a LARGE number of Japanese heavyweight (AJPW and NJPW up to 2000 --- I lost all patience with the crap with the rather tepid Kawada v Sasaki matches) that they attach to American wrestling, they'd DUMP on the product big-time. I mock Japanese wrestling because, darn it, it DESERVES it. It deserves it as much as American wrestling does --- but the elitist geeks out there (and don't even TRY and claim that they don't exist) handle even MILD criticism as if you were busily raping their dog. So, why even try NUANCED criticism (i.e Jumbo matches were slow, tedious, not all that well worked, and laden with crap selling) when it'll get the same reaction as claiming that somebody jerks off to puro matches? Puro elitists are every inch as blinded and annoying as ECW freaks were back when some bought into the hype that ECW had great wrestling or that RVD v Lynn was anything more than a mildly above average series of matches. You CAN'T discuss things with them and trying to do so is a waste of time. 2) I could care less about CS's "mind" for pro wrestling. He acted like a jackass and, thus, I treated him as such. I now apologize for it as it is just a colossal waste of time to mock him. I never insinuated that I nailed his mother OR father --- but apparently I am the bad guy in all of this. Groovy. -=Mike I agree with you that Japanese wrestling is laden with bad selling, but honestly I think you are unfairly judging this. First off, you don't like the way that uber puro fans trash the wrestling you like right? Well that is fine, but then don't do the same thing to them that you hate when they do it to you. Now like I said in my previous post, your allowed to have an opinion here. If you don't like something and I do, then cool....not a problem. But when it comes down to name calling and other bullshit, then it's stupid bullshit that for all intense purposes has no room here at all. But that goes for everyone, not just you Mike. See, I LOVE puro. Plain and simple, I like the fact that it is a completely different alternative to the wrestling that I easily get to watch on a weekly basis. But I also like wrestling all over the world. I am a fan of Pro Wrestling, and the more organizations and styles that are around....are for the better. I honestly think that for ever Japanese match that you trash I can name 5 that are simply just better matches. But your second point is the one that I had a problem with. You said that you mock Japanese wrestling because it deserves it? Why? Are you a wrestling fan? If so, why would you wanna mock ANY kind of wrestling? Plus you said why even try NUANCED criticism because it will get a bad reaction by puro fans. I'll give you one reason, because maybe people will listen to you instead of getting a preconcieved notion that you are a total dickhead(which I am NOT calling you). Also, you should care about CS's "mind" for pro wrestling. Maybe he could open your eyes to a few things and then you could understand why he feels as strongly for puro. This is a community, and when it comes to wrestling around here that's how it should be treated, all jokes and other shit here at TSM aside. Otherwise posting here in general would be a waste of everyones time....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted March 22, 2004 I apologized for the comment. I do not discuss puro any longer as I have gotten so tired of watching it that I refuse to do so any longer. As for Eric S., the man rejoiced at the death of Barbara Olsen because he was upset that her husband argued on behalf of Bush to the Supreme Court; he feels that moveon.org is a moderate group --- the man is an extremist whack job. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted March 22, 2004 Given the usual attitude of this board, "very, very, very far left" translates into "leftist moderate" in real-world terms. In California, MAYBE. Last time I took the political spectrum test, I came out as left-moderate, so I sincerely doubt that. http://www.411mania.com -- somewhere on there. As for Eric S., the man rejoiced at the death of Barbara Olsen because he was upset that her husband argued on behalf of Bush to the Supreme Court; he feels that moveon.org is a moderate group --- the man is an extremist whack job. -=Mike He is type-2 bipolar, so he's got papers to prove he's crazy. He's itching to pop the champagne corks when Reagan dies and said so basically in those words. I can understand being a bit left-leaning when your medication is paid for by the government, at least. However, he isn't moderate anything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted March 22, 2004 Given the usual attitude of this board, "very, very, very far left" translates into "leftist moderate" in real-world terms. In California, MAYBE. Last time I took the political spectrum test, I came out as left-moderate, so I sincerely doubt that. http://www.411mania.com -- somewhere on there. As for Eric S., the man rejoiced at the death of Barbara Olsen because he was upset that her husband argued on behalf of Bush to the Supreme Court; he feels that moveon.org is a moderate group --- the man is an extremist whack job. -=Mike He is type-2 bipolar, and he's itching to pop the champagne corks when Reagan dies. I can understand being a bit left-leaning when your medication is paid for by the government, at least. However, he isn't moderate anything. As I said, the man is a whack job. -=Mike ...He also seems to think that having an internet column automatically means that his statements have meaning --- a false assumption, for sure Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MD2020 Report post Posted March 22, 2004 Given the usual attitude of this board, "very, very, very far left" translates into "leftist moderate" in real-world terms. Not this time. Eric S is on the far left fringe. He's come out and said that if he had a choice to get rid of either Bush or Osama, he'd pick Bush. In other news, I can't believe this thread has gone on for 7 fucking pages. It must be HHH's fault. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
