Steve J. Rogers 0 Report post Posted March 12, 2004 Did The Rock's feet really touch the floor at RR 2000 or was that just some bullshit they made up to give us the Rock / Show match at NWO? One of his feet touched the floor, then he pulled himself up. I heard there was some kind of picture or something floating around that shows both his feet touching when they both went over. Plus Rock halfway admitted it in a promo when he said "so what if they did touch", or something along those lines. BTW, even though Rocky said "I DOESN'T MATTER..." wouldn't logic (Yes I know logic and WWF/WWE doesn't go hand-in-hand) shouldn't all WWE history and records record The Big Show as the winner? Reverse decisions DO happen in reality based (on the level, non-scripted) sports so why didn't they do that there? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Papacita 0 Report post Posted March 13, 2004 BTW, even though Rocky said "I DOESN'T MATTER..." wouldn't logic (Yes I know logic and WWF/WWE doesn't go hand-in-hand) shouldn't all WWE history and records record The Big Show as the winner? Reverse decisions DO happen in reality based (on the level, non-scripted) sports so why didn't they do that there? If I remember right, in storylines, they couldn't get a clear view of Rock's feet touching. If they did play it up, I'd imagine it'd be like Austin's win at Rumble 97, where Monsoon let it stand because the referee's decision is "always" final. How did Jazz fuck up at Mania XIX? Not sure exactly what you mean, but I think I remember her fucking up the finish. She was supposed to (IIRC) get back dropped onto the apron and then knocked off by Victoria leading into the final sequence with Victoria and Trish (or at least that's what it looked like to me), but she missed the apron and landed on the floor. Vikki ended up having to reach through the ropes to punch Jazz and she stayed down for the rest of the match. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Askewniverse Report post Posted March 13, 2004 Both of Rocky's feet did touch the floor. It was part of the build-up to the Show vs. Rock match at No Way Out 2000. At the SmackDown after the Rumble (1/27/00), Big Show walked into HHH's locker room and said he had evidence that he really won the Rumble. Show showed some fuzzy Polaroid pictures to HHH. HHH said that it wasn't enough, and told Show to get an eyewitness. At the following Raw (1/31/00), Show brought an eyewitness- Jim Dotson, the head security guy. Dotson told HHH that from where he was standing, it looked like both of Rocky's feet hit the floor first. HHH told Show that he couldn't just go on the word of the security guy, and told Show that he needed video evidence. At the following SmackDown (2/3/00), Show brought video evidence. At first, HHH asked Show about his new haircut. Show told HHH to forget about the hair, and handed him a videotape. They played the tape, which clearly showed that both of Rocky's feet hit the floor first. After seeing the footage, HHH said something along the lines of "All right, Freddie Mercury, you gave me proof, so you get your match. You and The Rock at No Way Out, winner gets the title shot at WrestleMania." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted March 13, 2004 I loved when HHH was booking the matches on air... The Whole Helmsly/McMahon Regime ruled before Vince stuck his nose in it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Astro7x 0 Report post Posted March 15, 2004 So has everone used their survivor series favors already? Christian - Got Lita her job back Jericho - Got Trish out of a match with Kane Mark Henry - Teddy Long as GM for one night only I forgot what the others were, and if they were even used Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Papacita 0 Report post Posted March 15, 2004 So has everone used their survivor series favors already? Christian - Got Lita her job back Jericho - Got Trish out of a match with Kane Mark Henry - Teddy Long as GM for one night only I forgot what the others were, and if they were even used Steiner used his to get he and Test a tag title shot. I'm not too sure what Orton's was, but it may have been the I-C Title shot at Armageddon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted March 15, 2004 Jericho - Got Trish out of a match with Kane Yeah, what a fucking waste. I'm not too sure what Orton's was, but it may have been the I-C Title shot at Armageddon. Correct. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted March 15, 2004 When was the last time HHH lost by tapping out? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisMWaters 0 Report post Posted March 15, 2004 When was the last time HHH lost by tapping out? That's what I've been wondering too. Not counting last night...probably since the Hart Foundation days. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Papacita 0 Report post Posted March 15, 2004 When was the last time HHH lost by tapping out? I wanna say that Benoit made him tap in a tag match or something leading into No Mercy 2000, but I was barely watching around that time so I don't have a real clear memory of that period. I'm pretty sure that Shamrock got him in 97 leading into the D-X PPV, though that may have been broken up by outside interference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted March 17, 2004 When did Los Guerreros debut with their Viva La Raza! WWE theme and when did Cena debut with his"Basic Thuganomics" theme? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted March 17, 2004 I think Viva La Raza debuted shortly before WMXIX when they were doing those skits... Basic Thugnomics? No idea... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Masked Man of Mystery 0 Report post Posted March 17, 2004 Somebody give me a good caption for this! It begs for one, but I'm coming up blank. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Amazing Rando 0 Report post Posted March 17, 2004 When did "Hunter Hearst Helmsley" become known as "Triple H" or "HHH"?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Papacita 0 Report post Posted March 17, 2004 When did "Hunter Hearst Helmsley" become known as "Triple H" or "HHH"?? I believe Mr. Perfect first called him HHH at Rumble 96 (or possibly on a Superstars episode sometime before...I dunno). It officially became his name once DX started. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vitamin X Report post Posted March 18, 2004 So I missed Wrestlemania for the first time in god knows how many years, which goes to show how little my interest has waned in wrestling for a while. But I got a glimpse of RAW last night, and I saw a few things I really really liked, and a couple other things I'm super-confused about... -Benoit and Guerrero as champs???? Now that's something, especially with Eddy going over Brock and Benoit going over HHH... Now that's before I had heard a damn thing about Brock leaving. WHAT THE HELL IS THAT ALL ABOUT?! -EVIL TRISH~! I have been wanting Trish to turn heel ever since the whole Canada-US angle (The UnAmericans, gah)..And the storyline with Jericho seems interesting but I'm confused as to how it all played out... -What the hell is Kurt Angle doing then, if there is no Brock and he just lost a championship match at Wrestlemania? Is he a face or a heel or what the hell...? -What in cojones' name is going on with the tag situation? I can see that Rock n Sock came back (albeit I'm sure briefly), Evolution might split up, and that other tahn those couple things, there is absolutely no new blood, save for maybe Ron Conway (never seen him) and the AzN InVaSion crew led by I guess a now-heel Tajiri. -I'm lovin the fact Heyman is the new Smackdown! GM... Last time I watched it was still Steph vs. Vince and the whole Sable bullshit. -What exactly is Austin's role? He seems like he is wrestling but isn't, but I don't quite understand the purpose of him being around.... I guess I just need things being explained to me... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Goodear Report post Posted March 18, 2004 -Benoit and Guerrero as champs???? Now that's something, especially with Eddy going over Brock and Benoit going over HHH... Now that's before I had heard a damn thing about Brock leaving. WHAT THE HELL IS THAT ALL ABOUT?! Brock quit and gave notice two weeks before Wrestlemania because of a number of reasons stemming from his frustration regarding his travel schedule and push. There were rumors that he was going to try out for some NFL teams buit nothing has come of that as of yet. -EVIL TRISH~! I have been wanting Trish to turn heel ever since the whole Canada-US angle (The UnAmericans, gah)..And the storyline with Jericho seems interesting but I'm confused as to how it all played out... Right... so Jericho and Christian make a bet for one Canadian Dollar over who can bed Trish and Lita first (respectively). Trish finds out about the bet, and immediately gets pissed about the situation. But Jericho has developed real feelings for her and continues to be all luvy duvy. Christian continues to be a prick however and tries to be a wedge between the two for a while calling Jericho soft all the way to Wrestlemania. Then, at Mania, Trish turns on Jericho and and sets up shop with Christian because she likes it rough. -What the hell is Kurt Angle doing then, if there is no Brock and he just lost a championship match at Wrestlemania? Is he a face or a heel or what the hell...? Angle is a heel since Eddie won the belt from Lesner. The actuall turn happened duriong an Eddie/Chavo match where Kurt was refereeing but refused to count a pin for Eddie. Unfortunately, Kurt's neck problems are flaring up again so his future is in quite a bit of doubt. -What in cojones' name is going on with the tag situation? I can see that Rock n Sock came back (albeit I'm sure briefly), Evolution might split up, and that other tahn those couple things, there is absolutely no new blood, save for maybe Ron Conway (never seen him) and the AzN InVaSion crew led by I guess a now-heel Tajiri. The tag situation blows. Basically RVD and Booker are doing the teaming superstar bit on RAW while Rikishi and Scotty II Hotty are coming off a win over the Basham Brothers (who are without Shaniqua now). -I'm lovin the fact Heyman is the new Smackdown! GM... Last time I watched it was still Steph vs. Vince and the whole Sable bullshit. Well its possible that Paul is going to get removed by Vince on the draft, but if he does a lot of people seem to think that a third 'ECW' brand might be next on tap for the guy. So I wouldn't worry about that. -What exactly is Austin's role? He seems like he is wrestling but isn't, but I don't quite understand the purpose of him being around.... I guess I just need things being explained to me... He's a... sherrif. Basically he can beat up wrestlers and alter match stipulations (but not actually make matches) after coming back from his team losing at Survivor Series. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vitamin X Report post Posted March 18, 2004 Scotty II Hotty..... You didn't just say that! So I guess that the neck doc Angle saw isn't going to be the new procedure for all the wrestlers? Or is it an Angle-specific situation? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Goodear Report post Posted March 18, 2004 The sad thing is that Rikishi and Scotty are a STEP UP from the incredibly boring Basham Brothers. The World's Greatest Tag Team is easily the best team on either roster but seems to be on the verge of splitting up to give Shelton Benjamen a singles push when the rosters are re-shuffled on Monday. I can't imagine that the Dr. Jho procedure will replace the spinal fusion that Benoit, Edge, Scotty and Rhyno went through. Personally, I don't think its really a matter of the procedure not working so much as it isn't as stable as the fusion. I'm sure the thing wasn't designed so peope could go right back to getting dropped on their heads the next night. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spaceman Spiff 0 Report post Posted March 18, 2004 The Dr. Jho procedure will probably be more common for guys like Tazz & Bill DeMott - guys whose ring days are done, but still need neck work. Or, for guys who don't take a lot of risky/heavy bumps. It might work for guys who primarily brawl, but Angle was still taking suplexes, big bumps, chairshots. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deancoles 0 Report post Posted March 18, 2004 when did Cena debut with his"Basic Thuganomics" theme? On the Smackdown before Wrestlemania 19, He returned after a few weeks injured because of Brock Lesnar and defeated Rikishi with the F-U which he used for the 1st time ever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Besus Report post Posted March 19, 2004 1.Has Shelton Benjamin ever wrestle on Raw?(I know he has on Heat) 2.Who def Goldberg after Nash in WCW? 3.How many ladder matches was in WCW and who was the wrestlers in the ladder matches? 4.How did Nash become WCW Commissioner? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cuban Linx 0 Report post Posted March 19, 2004 4.How did Nash become WCW Commissioner? Kevin Nash defeated Terry Funk at Souled Out 2000 to become the WCW Commissioner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Besus Report post Posted March 19, 2004 Thanks. 5.How many times has Kurt Angle/Chris Benoit wrestled? What shows? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted March 19, 2004 1.Has Shelton Benjamin ever wrestle on Raw?(I know he has on Heat) 2.Who def Goldberg after Nash in WCW? 3.How many ladder matches was in WCW and who was the wrestlers in the ladder matches? 4.How did Nash become WCW Commissioner? 1) No. Aside from 4 apperences on Heat, He debuted on Smackdown along with Charlie Haas in Late 2002 as a Gift to Kurt Angle from Heyman 2) Bret Hart defeated him with a Montreal Finish at Starrcade 1999, Lex Luger and Bagwell retired him at SIN in 2001, Steiner beat him in Goldberg's only other ***+ match at Fall Brawl 2000. 3). Goldberg Vs Scott Hall (Souled Out 99), Three Count VsThe Jung Dragons and Jamie Knoble & Evan Koragis (Starrcade 2000), Syxx Vs Eddy Guerrero (Souled Out 97) 4)I got the "honor" of seeing Nash beat Funk in a shitty hardcore match at Souled Out 2000. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Askewniverse Report post Posted March 19, 2004 1.Has Shelton Benjamin ever wrestle on Raw?(I know he has on Heat) 2.Who def Goldberg after Nash in WCW? 3.How many ladder matches was in WCW and who was the wrestlers in the ladder matches? 4.How did Nash become WCW Commissioner? 1) No. Aside from 4 apperences on Heat, He debuted on Smackdown along with Charlie Haas in Late 2002 as a Gift to Kurt Angle from Heyman 2) Bret Hart defeated him with a Montreal Finish at Starrcade 1999, Lex Luger and Bagwell retired him at SIN in 2001, Steiner beat him in Goldberg's only other ***+ match at Fall Brawl 2000. 3). Goldberg Vs Scott Hall (Souled Out 99), Three Count VsThe Jung Dragons and Jamie Knoble & Evan Koragis (Starrcade 2000), Syxx Vs Eddy Guerrero (Souled Out 97) 4)I got the "honor" of seeing Nash beat Funk in a shitty hardcore match at Souled Out 2000. Add to Choken's answers: 2.) Bret Hart pinned Goldberg on Nitro (night after Halloween Havoc '99). Bret beat Goldberg again, two months later on Nitro (night after Starrcade). Booker T has also beaten Goldberg (Nitro, Summer 2000 during Goldberg's brief heel run). 3.) Chris Benoit faced Jeff Jarrett in a ladder match at Starrcade '99. They had another ladder match the following night on Nitro. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Mandarin 0 Report post Posted March 19, 2004 Pretty sure there was a ladder match at New Blood Rising. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cuban Linx 0 Report post Posted March 19, 2004 Pretty sure there was a ladder match at New Blood Rising. That would be the Double Ladder match between 3 Count vs. The Jung Dragons, with both 3 Count's gold album and their recording contract hanging above the ring. And another WCW ladder match, the Duck On A Ladder Match between Konnan/Rey Mysterio & The Boogie Knights (Disco Inferno and Alex Wright) from a Nitro in late 2000. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted March 20, 2004 1.Has Shelton Benjamin ever wrestle on Raw?(I know he has on Heat) 2.Who def Goldberg after Nash in WCW? 3.How many ladder matches was in WCW and who was the wrestlers in the ladder matches? 4.How did Nash become WCW Commissioner? 1) No. Aside from 4 apperences on Heat, He debuted on Smackdown along with Charlie Haas in Late 2002 as a Gift to Kurt Angle from Heyman 2) Bret Hart defeated him with a Montreal Finish at Starrcade 1999, Lex Luger and Bagwell retired him at SIN in 2001, Steiner beat him in Goldberg's only other ***+ match at Fall Brawl 2000. 3). Goldberg Vs Scott Hall (Souled Out 99), Three Count VsThe Jung Dragons and Jamie Knoble & Evan Koragis (Starrcade 2000), Syxx Vs Eddy Guerrero (Souled Out 97) 4)I got the "honor" of seeing Nash beat Funk in a shitty hardcore match at Souled Out 2000. 2) TECHNICALLY, they pinned DeWayne Bruce and not GB, so I guess, they didn't actually BEAT GB. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Askewniverse Report post Posted March 20, 2004 I'm pretty sure that CO is right. I remember Goldberg getting pinned after a double-team Blockbuster. EDIT: here's a review of WCW Sin from DDT Digest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
