Guest glennsoe Report post Posted April 8, 2004 The great PPV experiment... WWE will go ahead and deliver a Tuesday RAW brand PPV in October just nine days after an October Smackdown brand PPV. WWE is hoping to attract new PPV viewers who are unable to view Sunday PPVs. Tuesday is the usual night for the replay of WWE's Sunday PPVs. WWE is also hoping that a strong sell on RAW the night before will cause a spike in buys for a PPV the next night, rather than six days later. Credit: Torch Newsletter Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted April 8, 2004 Okay, the big money question. Will HHH insert himself into the ME, or will he take non ME spot, or will he skip the card? It depends on how he thinks it will do. Because if the Tuesday show does well and he's in the ME, He gets the credit. If it doesn't and he's in the main, even Vince might notice a trend. On the flip side, if it does well without him in the main, he's possibly fucked again. But if it doesn't and he's not, that's his trump card. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrRant 0 Report post Posted April 8, 2004 It better be no more than $20 bucks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BionicRedneck Report post Posted April 8, 2004 If it doesn't and he's in the main, even Vince might notice a trend. On the flip side, if it does well without him in the main, he's possibly fucked again. You honestly believe either of those? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted April 8, 2004 I think the second is more possible. If it does well with (for instance) Jericho and Christian in the main, and HHH fighting Shelton, Vince could stick with that formula. Also, look at it from HHH's parnoid viewpoint. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest I Got Banned for Sucking Report post Posted April 8, 2004 Hmmm... I'm curious as to how they will do this, brand-wise. I'm also wondering about lower/mid-card talent - will this be an avenue for them? And Anglesault, if the Pay-Per-View doesn't do well even with Triple H in the Main Event, it won't matter to Vince. Have a look at some of the buyrates for WWE's 2003 Pay-Per-Views - Every single time that he was able, he was in the Main Event, and not every Pay-Per-View sky-rocketed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted April 8, 2004 Ugh...... do any of these people understand how to run a business? When business is down you don't saturate the market with more of your product. All this will do is kill the SD buyrate as they have no starpower to compete with a Raw PPV not even 10 days away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest I Got Banned for Sucking Report post Posted April 8, 2004 You're right, but it could work out due to the placing, and possibly giving it a lower price (which would make up for it in buyrates). And yes, even if the card if terrific and the above doesn't work out, it might be hard to get the buyrates needed. But while it can be extremely hard to do, have faith. It will be very interesting to see how things pan out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted April 8, 2004 The price remains key. Right now, they need to lower the price of the SD PPV badly. No one on the card says, "Hey, let me spend 40 dollars on this". If the WWE tries to do a $40 SD PPV and then do a Tuesday night $40 RAW PPV just a week later, then they are crazy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest nikowwf Report post Posted April 8, 2004 You know, the only people who have really embraced the brand split is the WWE, who have decided Raw is the home team and Smackdown is the inferior brand, to be stepped on and crushed. The Smackdown PPV is a month away, and its clear it won't be even half the product the Raw PPV will be. Thats utterly ridiculous - its in their best interest to give good competing products, but we have one product that will have a **** main even and one that will have a * main event. niko Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest I Got Banned for Sucking Report post Posted April 8, 2004 You know, the only people who have really embraced the brand split is the WWE, who have decided Raw is the home team and Smackdown is the inferior brand, to be stepped on and crushed. The Smackdown PPV is a month away, and its clear it won't be even half the product the Raw PPV will be. Thats utterly ridiculous - its in their best interest to give good competing products, but we have one product that will have a **** main even and one that will have a * main event. niko The things is though, SmackDown! were more-often-than-not the better program. Ironically, in 2003. When you think of a shitty 2003, you think of Raw. At least, I do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dynamite Kido Report post Posted April 8, 2004 *bangs head off a wall* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest I Got Banned for Sucking Report post Posted April 8, 2004 *Stares* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Tino Standard 0 Report post Posted April 8, 2004 So would it be correct to assume that Smackdown that week will be live since the TV crew will be at the Raw PPV on Tuesday? Also, mark my words: If the calendar falls the same way this year as it did last year, then that Tuesday night would probably be the same night as either Game 6 or 7 of the baseball League Championship Series. And if you have Boston, New York and Chicago all involved again this year, you can kiss the buyrates in those markets goodbye. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted April 8, 2004 THIS TUESDAY IN TEXAS--2!~ IN YER HOUSE! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest I Got Banned for Sucking Report post Posted April 8, 2004 So would it be correct to assume that Smackdown that week will be live since the TV crew will be at the Raw PPV on Tuesday? Also, mark my words: If the calendar falls the same way this year as it did last year, then that Tuesday night would probably be the same night as either Game 6 or 7 of the baseball League Championship Series. And if you have Boston, New York and Chicago all involved again this year, you can kiss the buyrates in those markets goodbye. They'll probably just tape SmackDown! at a later date, or possibly even before the Pay-Per-View. Ok, that last part was stupid. A stupid fucking thing to say. Agreed about your buyrate quip. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted April 8, 2004 So Vince wants to take business away from NWA TNA by putting on a half ass PPV out there just to satulate the market? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest I Got Banned for Sucking Report post Posted April 8, 2004 There's really no problem with that (for him), but it would be a lot more credible (and would be more likely to work) if the Pay-Per-Views themselves are credible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted April 8, 2004 Uh..October..uh..what could possibly be on a Tuesday Night in October.. Well, I originally thought of 24...but FOX will have that pre-empted for the Baseball playoffs (possibly the World Series?) And Im guessing they wont tape Smackdown on Tuesday..or else there goes a few thousand potential buyers (or worse a poor crowd?) Which means they probably have the bright idea to do a live smackdown, which means ...I won't get to see it.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slickster 0 Report post Posted April 8, 2004 So Vince wants to take business away from NWA TNA by putting on a half ass PPV out there just to satulate the market? Why should he care about TNA's welfare? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zack Malibu 0 Report post Posted April 8, 2004 So Vince wants to take business away from NWA TNA by putting on a half ass PPV out there just to satulate the market? How is he taking business away from TNA? The only people who order TNA are either the hardcores who order everything, or the people who aren't into WWE right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spaceman Spiff 0 Report post Posted April 8, 2004 So Vince wants to take business away from NWA TNA by putting on a half ass PPV out there just to satulate the market? Why should he care about TNA's welfare? Yeah, didn't you watch the Monday Night Wars DVD? Vince's philosophy is to "take care of his own, not hurt the other guy." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted April 8, 2004 Well TNA is most likely going to be on Fox Sports by then and not doing a weekly PPV. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest I Got Banned for Sucking Report post Posted April 8, 2004 It's not as if NWA TNA is on on a Tuesday now, anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheBigSwigg 0 Report post Posted April 8, 2004 You know, the only people who have really embraced the brand split is the WWE. I'm actually very fond of the split, as I can actually watch mid-carders. RAW and Smackdown before the split were nothing but main event shows, with the exception of Kanyon. I would prefer to see the split maintained, but I would love for RAW to become WCW and Smackdown be WWE. It would be sooooo sweet Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest I Got Banned for Sucking Report post Posted April 8, 2004 Finally, this is going through... It's an obvious quip, but here it is: Brand split: Good - Better for lower-card talent Bad - Weaknesses show. As far as the good goes, nothing's happening. As a result, we come to Bad. It's either two goods or two bads in this company - and right now, it's the latter. If they would take advantage of the Good part of the brand split, then it might cancel out the bad - if it's done right. But it hasn't been lately, so fuck the brand split. They were better when they were together. What do I want? Sunday Night Heat and Velocity as brands. I believe that the positives would outweigh the negatives. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kahran Ramsus 0 Report post Posted April 9, 2004 They were better when they were together. Like hell they were. The last two months before the draft were downright painful to watch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest I Got Banned for Sucking Report post Posted April 9, 2004 That was the last two months. In my opinion, most great WWE moments occurred when the brands were together. It wouldn't as well now as (neither would the relinking), well, a few weeks (same goes for relinking), but somehow, even for a month, both brands feuding, ala the end of the Draft Lottery Raw, culminating in a Pay-Per-View of sorts... They're not using the lower-card guys, so why the fuck not? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJerk 0 Report post Posted April 9, 2004 Vince McMahon thinks that most people watch either Smackdown, or Raw, but not both. Reportedly there's actually some Neilsen research to back this up. Therefore, he thinks he can make more money by having two PPVs in one month because the people who order one would not have ordered the other anyways. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest I Got Banned for Sucking Report post Posted April 9, 2004 You have to wonder which fans would watch one certain show. I mean, the casual fans, so to speak, would want to watch both shows, right? And the serious fans, which are usually the Internet fans, would of course watch both shows. So who's watching one and not the other? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites