JR trashes internet, Puro on Byte This

[Guest Trivia247]

JR's Puro Hatred isn't really directed at Japanese wrestling more than its Indirectly Bashing Internet Smart Marks who Revere Puro wrestling and Reviles his Sports entertainment of Hosses. and thats too bad he would sink so low as to Attack Puro wrestling just to say Internet wrestling fan community are morons for not supporting A Train and Nathan Jones

[Enigma 0]

So, we fired Chris Kanyon and Sean O'Haire to bring back Grand Master Sexay and Jeff Hardy. Awesome.

[Prophet of Mike Zagurski 0]

So he complained about the Internet on the Internet. I'm so glad the WWE's top priority is bashing the Internet.

[Guest wrestlingbs]

What is with the WWE bashing potential fans? First the whole "faces can't be from Canada," and now this? JR isn't just an on-aire character, he's the "voice of the WWE." He's got a real position within the company. He's the head announcer. And he goes on the WWE's internet program and bashes Japanese promotions simply because they want to make some money?

 

And I love how JR and the company continuously put down the IWC for being geeks who don't know anything about the industry. Why? Because a lot of these "geeks" are either devoted fans, insiders, or wrestlers themselves who constantly release info about the WWE's stupid mistakes.

[AndrewTS 0]

JR's Puro Hatred isn't really directed at Japanese wrestling more than its Indirectly Bashing Internet Smart Marks who Revere Puro wrestling and Reviles his Sports entertainment of Hosses. and thats too bad he would sink so low as to Attack Puro wrestling just to say Internet wrestling fan community are morons for not supporting A Train and Nathan Jones

Heh, misplaced blame as it is. Really, the smarks has nothing to do for those failures. Jones couldn't wrestle, didn't have the attitude necessary, and sounded like a moron on the mic. A-Train actually has drawn some decent heat when he was pushed, and his ring work isn't that bad for a big guy, but he gets the Billy Gunn treatment: quick push, pull the plug, reboot, retry, etc. They never had the faith in him they did Brock.

[EdwardKnoxII 0]

Here's the ByteThis report. http://411mania.com/wrestling/news/newsboa...hp?news_id=9205

 

Hosts are JR and Josh Matthews! JR gives mad props to Josh’s clothing, pointing out that he dressed up nicely.

 

Segment One: Droz

 

Joined by Droz, kickin’ in his two cents. His thoughts on Backlash? He is now a believer in Randy Orton, the match had him dazed, amazed and confused. Randy certainly showed a tough side. JR points out that Randy proved he could take it as well as dish it out, it reminded him of a match between Mankind and Shawn Michaels, where HBK proved he could hang with the tough guys, against expectations. That match definitely won’t hurt Orton’s career.

 

Droz did well on his predictions, but got the Tajiri/Coach match wrong. No one expected Cade to be Coach’s tag team partner.

 

On announcers, Droz believes they can make or break a match; they pull you through the experience, and add to the excitement.

 

Droz leaves.

 

JR’s thoughts on Backlash? Very successful, the two or three matches which needed to deliver did. He enjoyed the title, Orton/Cactus, Christian/Jericho and Benjamin/Flair matches. JR had read on the internet that it was disrespectful for Ric Flair to be in the opening match at the PPV. JR disagrees and believes it is flattering; it’s the second most important match to be in.

 

On his promotion within the company, JR explains that he has been promoted to Executive Vice President of Business Strategies. He is currently working on a number of WWE projects, including two movies and is also interfacing with senior managers, who while are excellent at what they do, have not been around the product for long. He is still doing RAW and is basically taking business stuff off Vince’s plate so he can concentrate of the creative side. He hired Johnny Ace to eventually replace him in talent relations, and thinks he will do a great job. He has read a lot of conspiracy theories on the internet and thinks their creators should apply for writing jobs at WWE.

 

Kelly from Houston, Texas asks why JR always gets excited at the end of the programme. JR equates it to sex, the crescendo, if you will. The bigger the stakes, the bigger the emotion. His opinion on the Undertaker? JR is a big fan of what Taker does behind the scenes. Smackdown is going through a transitional period, and the Dead Man provides stability. JR is a fan of the man and the character.

 

WWE and Stone Cold Steve Austin had a great run together, and were mutually beneficial. However, it is unfortunate to JR that they couldn’t come to an agreement. JR believes Austin will return but is burnt out at the moment. He hopes Austin’s advisors aren’t stupid, and don’t put him back in the ring at the request of people who flash a load of money in his face. He says Japanese Wrestling is ‘sucking pond water’ right now; they are desperate to sign a big star. JR believes it would be short sighted for Austin to accept an offer, short sighted, ill fated and poorly advised.

 

On Goldberg, JR wants to make it clear that there was no contract offered to him. They had had casual discussions, but anything you’ve read on the internet is ‘bs’. Goldberg was only interested in staying if certain creative things were changed. Although JR considers Billy a friend, he thinks his love for the business has waned.

 

Brock Lesnar wanted to see if he was stud enough or man enough to make it in the NFL. JR makes it pretty clear during this segment that he doesn’t believe Lesnar will make it. He says while Brock looks good on paper, the real test will be whether he has the skills. It would be good for WWE if he did make it though. Brock will probably re-evaluate WWE at the end of the football season. He is glad Brock followed his dream though, if ever there is a time to do it, now is the best.

 

JR doesn’t believe Hogan not being at WMXX was a decision breaker for fans, and that Foley will always have a place within the company. JR is proud of the Rock’s film career and sees him as the next big action/adventure star. Selfishly JR wishes the Rock could devote more time to WWE, but realises he is there as much as possible.

 

Wrestler Blake from Louisiana asks JR what it was like to be ringside for the series of matches between Steamboat and Flair. JR never went to work in the wrestling business without his roots established as a wrestling fan. The matches themselves were unbelievable – the wrestlers enlisted tremendous passions. Wrestlers have to be able to have the audience have an emotional investment. It was a great experience, but the only negative was that sometimes their matches seemed seamless, almost surreal.

 

Eric from Ontario asks about a possible return for Jeff Hardy. JR is in talks with Hardy and hopes to have something positive to say within the next couple of weeks. He cares for Jeff and likes his passion – he needs to focus on becoming one of the biggest stars WWE has ever had.

 

Segment Two: Michael Cole

 

Joined by Michael Cole, who sees one of the biggest differences between being an announcer and tv reporter as objectivity. You have to stay unemotional as a reporter. It was a hard transitional period for him; he had to learn to allow himself to bring the emotion to a match. JR relates it to amateur wrestlers, who need to lighten up after being taught to not show any emotion during a match. JR thinks Michael Cole has progressed quickly as a play-by-play guy though.

 

Michael Cole began his broadcasting career at Syracuse University and covered American Football. He then worked for a Texas radio station before being picked up by CBS News and being posted all around the world. Many people thought WWE was an odd career choice, but he’s always been a fan.

 

Michael Cole is looking forward to Judgement Day, especially the match between Eddie Guerrero and JBL. THE JBL character will take a little while to develop but is being handled in the right direction. JR believes that if the two superstars’ styles won’t clash then it will be a good match. He is pleased with JBL’s presentation, now he needs to show he can back it up in the ring.

 

Cole doesn’t see himself following in the footsteps of coach and going into wrestling/management. He is happy to be part of an angle once in a while but is happier at the broadcast table. He believes he was been lucky with his career and who he has been able to learn from, citing JR, Jerry Lawler, Tazz and Jim Cornette.

 

Michael Cole got thrown into the deep end before he was ready, JR became ill and it was sink or swim time on the live RAW. According to JR he has had some bad cards handed to him but has overcome them. JR believes that as an announcer you have to be yourself, and those who try to be over the top will fail; it’s not always about volume.

 

Smackdown as a B Show? JR says it’s ridiculous. In his personal opinion the brand extension is still in a transitional period. There were a couple of hiccups with talent on Smackdown and they have stiff competition on Thursday nights as well. JR thinks Booker T should be slapped for complaining that RAW was a better show. Michael Cole points out that Smackdown has broadcast 244 original episodes on network television, and that that is impressive, considering what a fuss shows make of the 100th episode. RAW has the advantage of a few more established stars than Smackdown, which has a number of younger stars who need to find their characters. Cole gives the example of Charlie Hass, who on the forthcoming Smackdown moves to the next level in entertaining people. JR reveals that he doesn’t know what will happen on Smackdown as he has stayed away from the Tuesday night spoilers, which the internet guys are so obsessed with. He is watching the show as it should be watched.

 

Cole believes Eddie deserves to be where he is today for a number of reasons, including personal reasons and for Smackdown itself. The bottom line for JR is that guys like Guerrero give every athlete hope, regardless of size. Both Eddie and Benoit are WWE Champions, on WWE Interim Champions.

 

Michael Cole leaves.

 

Segment Three: Bill deMott

 

Joined by Hugh Morrus, who is getting used to not being part of the action, but calling it instead. While he sees a possible return to the ring, he understands when it is time to step aside to let the new guys through. He sees John Cena as the future of the business. JR agrees, and also mentions Randy Orton and Shelton Benjamin, who he holds in high esteem. Both JR and deMott would like to see another series of Tough Enough, as long as an aggressive network picks it up and reality tv stays strong.

 

Bill deMott leaves.

 

JR feels that next week’s RAW will have a strong impact on the forthcoming title match between Benoit and HBK

 

Next week Dr. Tom is back for a special Young Superstar Edition of Byte This! See you then.

 

End of Show.

[Guest wrestlingbs]

Smackdown is going through a transitional period, and the Dead Man provides stability.

Now this caught my eye. JR can be a fan of the Undertaker, there's no prblem with that. But there is no way Taker has brought "stability" to Smackdown. The guy hasn't been on tv for a month!

[Guest BillyTheStud]

JR equates it to sex

 

Ugh....just UGH

[Guest sean pyro]

Ross is right about Japanese wrestling today, they are desperate as hell for business.

 

Look at how many WWE mid and lower carders are over there pinning their top stars because being a Sunday Night Heat All-Star in the states holds more weight than being a champion in Japan.

 

Look at all those shoot fighters who don't even belong in the ring are over there turning Kawada and the gang into jobbers.

 

Look who they put as their IWGP champion just so they can fill up the Tokyo Dome because their own Wrestlers can't do it anymore.

 

Christ Japan had JOANIE FUCKING LAURER main eventing shows.

 

And I don't know whats worse, the fact I'm sticking up for ROSS or that all the puro sites where reporting that New Japan and DSE want to use Nathan Jones again.

 

Now that's sucking up pond water.

[Tawren 0]

Toryumon >>>>>> WWE, and JR knows it.

 

"Ross is right about Japanese wrestling today, they are desperate as hell for business.

 

Look at how many WWE mid and lower carders are over there pinning their top stars because being a Sunday Night Heat All-Star in the states holds more weight than being a champion in Japan.

 

Look at all those shoot fighters who don't even belong in the ring are over there turning Kawada and the gang into jobbers.

 

Look who they put as their IWGP champion just so they can fill up the Tokyo Dome because their own Wrestlers can't do it anymore.

 

Christ Japan had JOANIE FUCKING LAURER main eventing shows.

 

And I don't know whats worse, the fact I'm sticking up for ROSS or that all the puro sites where reporting that New Japan and DSE want to use Nathan Jones again.

 

Now that's sucking up pond water. "

 

Japan has more than one fed, buddy. Is all of America pushing Bradshaw?

 

Shoot fighters against Kawada? Uh-whaaaa? Kawada is in AJPW, the shoot stuff is going on in NJPW. NJPW and AJPW are both run by idiots and most shows are just as good as better than WWE's.

[Guest JMA]

Wow. JR sounds pretty pissed. I guess Austin leaving hit him pretty hard. I do question why he'd take out his anger on internet fans (on an internet show, no less).

 

It's probably not all about Austin, though. The Goldberg/Lesnar match and the reaction the crowd gave them might also be a factor.

[Guest sean pyro]

Shoot fighters against Kawada? Uh-whaaaa? Kawada is in AJPW, the shoot stuff is going on in NJPW. NJPW and AJPW are both run by idiots and most shows are just as good as better than WWE's.

Mark Coleman & Kevin Randleman beat Shinya Hashimoto & Toshiaki Kawada (14:16)

 

[Markme123 0]

he said Japaneese promotions are desperate and that "Japanese wrestling is sucking pond water".  A nice thing to say the day after you put up a press release going to Japan.

 

Indeed most of Japan's promotions are in a rut right now and just because "WWE sucks even more" doesn't make it less true. But this comment won't hurt them in Japan cause WWE fans there are just that: WWE fans and not really puroresu fans. I have a feeling that some Japanese puro fans feel the same way Ross does looking at the attendence and TV ratings for their shows nowadays.

[Guest I Got Banned for Sucking]

Remember, Jeff sold a LOT of merchandise.

 

If his heart's in it, then I'd to see him back - if not, apart from the obvious merch revenue, why bother?

[Jobber of the Week 0]

Now wouldn't it be great if Ross could one day give some prime examples of what he's talking about? I hope he isn't referencing these jabroni sites that have infatuations with the words "Major story, Big Update, Huge News....).

 

Of course he is. This is what people see when they go to their search engine and look up pro wrestling. Usually, your average netizen just sits and reads this crap, collecting spyware and ad trojans from the popups along the way, until they discover the inner circle of Meltzer, Torch, even 1W/PWI.

 

 

And screw a Jeff Hardy return. PUSH SHANNON MOORE INSTEAD. At least he doesn't have a history of refusing to take drug tests.

[Kardo 0]

"it reminded him of a match between Mankind and Shawn Michaels"

 

He's comparing Mind Games to the Randy/Foley CZW spotfest...

[Guest MissMattitude]

If Jeff has sorted out his personal demons I think it would be great to bring him back. I don't want the Hardyz to reunite though.

 

Put Jeff on Smackdown and either put him in the CW division or pair him up with Shannon Moore. They have legitimate history, in the fact that that have grown up together, wrestled together in former companies and are best friends. And it would give Shannon something to do, maybe Jeff's heat will rub off on him aswell.

[Guest Dynamite Kido]

Evidently you could tattoo what JR knows about Japan on HHH's steroid-shriveled genitals and still have room for the meaning of life.

BEST. COMMENT. EVER

[AndrewTS 0]

And screw a Jeff Hardy return. PUSH SHANNON MOORE INSTEAD. At least he doesn't have a history of refusing to take drug tests.

I agree. He's a better wrestler, his style is closer to what WWE wants, he's got a better physique than Jeff at this point, plus he's way cuter.

[Toxxic 0]

From the photos I saw of him in ROH, he looked a lot less 'fucking weirdo'-ish than usual.

 

'Tis a shame dreamer isn't around this board anymore, he and I were two of very few Hardy marks left.

 

UYI

You can consider me a mark for either Hardy. Matt more so, due to the fact that he's a great wrestler. But Jeff also, due to the fact that at one point he was pretty damn good, not to mention fearless, before the sloppy drug-induced work set in.

[Lil' Bitch 0]

Yes, the hideous makeup-laden redneck/Goth women that idolize Jeff to tend to be larger than Matt's fans.

 

You forgot "fat".

[The Amazing Rando 0]

I've wanted a Shannon Moore push since the MFer days...they could have made Shannon pretty big with a Moore/Hardy feud after Moore realized he was basically doing all of Matt's dirty work and then snapped in the middle of the match and tried to cripple Matt with some bizarre submission hold.

[notJames 0]

Shannon Moore has the personality of a wet paper bag. I bet his only push will be out the door.

 

As for JR, he hasn't been relevant since he got hit with Bell's Palsy.

[thuganomics 0]

To (ugh) defend JR, I think he was referring more to puro's draw in Japan which has dwindled to unbelievable lows...

 

Ans as to Jeff Hardy, I'm not his biggest fan, but he's decent enough to rehire. I all but guaranteed he'll be in the Cruiserweight division when he resurfaces though.

[CanadianChick 0]

Shannon Moore has the personality of a wet paper bag. I bet his only push will be out the door.

 

As for JR, he hasn't been relevant since he got hit with Bell's Palsy.

Perfect then! Jeff Hardy doesn't have much of a personality either.

[Jobber of the Week 0]

I agree.  He's a better wrestler, his style is closer to what WWE wants,

*nod*

 

plus he's way cuter.

 

[Kahran Ramsus 0]

Shannon Moore is just cannon fodder. Just because a guy is small doesn't mean he's good. Helms is 10x the wrestler Moore is. Push him instead.

[Your Paragon of Virtue 0]

Shoot fighters against Kawada? Uh-whaaaa? Kawada is in AJPW, the shoot stuff is going on in NJPW. NJPW and AJPW are both run by idiots and most shows are just as good as better than WWE's.

Mark Coleman & Kevin Randleman beat Shinya Hashimoto & Toshiaki Kawada (14:16)

 

*Points to sig*

 

And I don't like shoot wrestlers, MMA Fighters seems more appropriate. Shoot fighters reminds me of those "Catchascanshoot" guys. This is slightly different.

 

I think everyone's main point on the subject is that Ross should not be insulting wrestling in Japan when it's as bad as it is in the US.

 

Question: Is MMA more popular than Wrestling in Japan, or is it like here, where the WWF is more popular than the UFC?

[Hektik 0]

Question: Is MMA more popular than Wrestling in Japan, or is it like here, where the WWF is more popular than the UFC?

MMA is one of the hotest things in Japan. It has surpassed pro wrestling over there. It also explains Inoki putting MMA before wrestling.

[Your Paragon of Virtue 0]

Question: Is MMA more popular than Wrestling in Japan, or is it like here, where the WWF is more popular than the UFC?

MMA is one of the hotest things in Japan. It has surpassed pro wrestling over there. It also explains Inoki putting MMA before wrestling.

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