Guest glennsoe Report post Posted April 24, 2004 This is maybe an old interview, i've just read it and posted link and some highlights... Link; http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2003560...4180004,00.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Highlights from Interview; ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Your promo and match with Sting at the last ever WCW Monday Nitro in 2001 were very moving for a lot of fans. What emotions did you go through? Navdeep Rehill; I was glad to see WCW close down! The company was an embarrassment to anything I'd ever known or been part of. Vince Russo had turned it into a circus. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Do you ever watch NWA:TNA and how do you feel they are continuing your legacy? I've watched it a couple of times and what I saw of it was terrible. Anything that Vince Russo is involved with is going to be bad, I'm sorry but he's a cartoon character. Jeff Jarrett is a good performer, but some of the stuff they've had on it with Raven and others wasn't enjoyable. I wouldn't pay a dollar to see Raven headline. I've never seen a good match on NWA:TNA. People talk about the high-flying stuff but that's not wrestling. That's just raising the bar and one of the reasons the WWE has toned back down is those guys won't last five years. It doesn't translate into money and when someone gets jumped on from a guy on a ladder, how does he come back? That's why people say wrestling is fake, because they say nobody could do that and they're right. I respect the fact those guys can do it, but so what. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Donners Report post Posted April 25, 2004 I was going to have a go at Flair based on the little clips of his interview, but having seen it in more detail here I understand where he's coming from. I don't agree, but I at least know why he dislikes it. TBH, I'd rather see Raven headline than many of the people WWE has been pushing up lately. As for Russo...well, he has his uses. I suppose if Flair watched TNA in its early days, then his criticism would certainly be justified, but he's improved lately as a character. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Report post Posted April 25, 2004 I think it's Flair's personal hatred for Russo talking. (waits for the no shit response) Raven headlined ECW a lot (or sometimes, I didn't follow that closely), which is basically what TNA is now (almost). Has cult following, but is on life support because of financial situation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustJoe2k5 0 Report post Posted April 25, 2004 Vince Russo is a cartoon character? This coming from a guy who danced around on a plane wearing nothing but a robe and forcing flight attendants to touch him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Styles 0 Report post Posted April 25, 2004 Why did this need to be posted? The full interview is up in the WWE folder, and we know that Flair hates Russo, and the fact that he hates "that high flying stuff" and Raven (2 of the most universally liked aspects of TNA) shows how out of touch he is. Hardly "RIPPING" into TNA....geez... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Coffey Report post Posted April 25, 2004 Truthfully, I can't say that I disagree with Flair. I understand where he is coming from. In his eyes, Raven will always be the "garbage" wrestler that he was in ECW...relying on "foreign objects" for half of his spots to make up for what he lacks in wrestling talent. Of course, what Raven lacks in the wrestling department he can make up for with his non-wrestling positives...like promo skills and ability to tell a story. Of course Flair had the wrestling ability AND the promo skills, so he can clown on Raven if he so desires. As far as the cruiserweight remarks go, he's pretty much right. Nothing else really needs to be said. They have to keep doing more and more high risk spots to continually raise the bar. If they all worked like Jaime Noble, it would be a different story. Instead we have a bunch of guys working there way though indies that come out looking like Amazing Red.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Report post Posted April 25, 2004 Why did this need to be posted? The full interview is up in the WWE folder, and we know that Flair hates Russo, and the fact that he hates "that high flying stuff" and Raven (2 of the most universally liked aspects of TNA) shows how out of touch he is. Hardly "RIPPING" into TNA....geez... Yeah, remember the topic started about Nash RIPPING WWE, except he only insults Brian Gerwitz or Gewirtz or whatever. Tsk Tsk Tsk. Ripping a promotion a new asshole is insulting everything about it and more so. This was "I hate Russo and Raven". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jack_Bauer 0 Report post Posted April 27, 2004 Jeff Jarrett is a good performer, but some of the stuff they've had on it with Raven and others wasn't enjoyable. I wouldn't pay a dollar to see Raven headline. This shows that Ric Flair is purely basing on mat wrestling and nothing more. A lot of people WOULD pay a dollar to watch Raven headline, as he is probably one of the most interesting characters in wrestling today. Anyways, he's biased. As far as the cruiserweight remarks go, he's pretty much right. Nothing else really needs to be said. They have to keep doing more and more high risk spots to continually raise the bar. If they all worked like Jaime Noble, it would be a different story. Instead we have a bunch of guys working there way though indies that come out looking like Amazing Red.... Wrestling is all about entertainment and these guys entertain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Hot Ticket Report post Posted April 27, 2004 old man is bitter that no one has wanted to see him headline since the 80s. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KTID 0 Report post Posted April 27, 2004 All i'll add is that Flair is a muppet, has no talent and i could care less about any of his worthless opinions on the current wrestling scene (in which he has no worth and deserves no place). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted April 27, 2004 All i'll add is that Flair is a muppet, has no talent and i could care less about any of his worthless opinions on the current wrestling scene (in which he has no worth and deserves no place). Your mission, should you choose to accept it... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted April 28, 2004 old man is bitter that no one has wanted to see him headline since the 80s. No, not really. *Sigh* Silly TNA marks... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Report post Posted April 28, 2004 Flair can still go, but not like he use to. And ripping on Flair, who is held in high regard by actually people who mean anything, is more important than a bunch of message board fans yelling "Boo"!. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted April 28, 2004 Flair can still go, but not like he use to. And ripping on Flair, who is held in high regard by actually people who mean anything, is more important than a bunch of message board fans yelling "Boo"!. The deluded TNA marks here would rip into their grandmothers if they had anything negative to say about TNA. Too bad the WWE has been better than TNA for a while now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Report post Posted April 28, 2004 Correction. Raw has been better, (Not as good as Scott Keith has sad, but still good) but Smackdown is just drizzling shits lately. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted April 28, 2004 Raven is a good worker actually, though. If Flair is ripping on Raven 2002-presnet, well ok, but Raven from the mid-late 90's was a good worker, and could work a good match without weapons. Flair is a legend, but I am tired of a near 50 year old bitch about workers when he is so broken down that he can't take a back body drop correctly. Retire Flair. Please. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chuck Woolery 0 Report post Posted April 28, 2004 "Correctly"? I hate to play the 'can-you-take-a-bump' card, but really, if he takes a bump on his side, who are you to call him wrong? It's not like he's flopping around like a dead fish, he's just landing on his fucking side. Yeah, way off topic. Um... that looks totally kayfabed, if you ask me. Vince: Ric, I'd like you to go give an anti-TNA interview in your crazy, bitter old man character. Flair: You got it boss. WHOOOOO! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted April 28, 2004 "Correctly"? I hate to play the 'can-you-take-a-bump' card, but really, if he takes a bump on his side, who are you to call him wrong? It's not like he's flopping around like a dead fish, he's just landing on his fucking side. Yeah, way off topic. Um... that looks totally kayfabed, if you ask me. Vince: Ric, I'd like you to go give an anti-TNA interview in your crazy, bitter old man character. Flair: You got it boss. WHOOOOO! Ok then let me make myself more clear. Flair is a fucking embarrasment in the ring in 2004, better? He hasn't brought anything to the table in over five years. He comes in every week and basically like a robot does the same exact thing in the same order. There is no reason for him to be in a match every week, let alone be a tag champ. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Report post Posted April 28, 2004 He lost the Tag Titles last week after like a 3 week reign. This isn't 1985 when title reigns lasted 3 years. Since the title is worthless with a bunch of worthless tag teams, it means shit who wins it. Giving it to star power like Evolution or Benoit/Edge can at least attempt to get the titles over again. Not by putting them on Jobber tag teams like Hurri-S.H.I.T and La Resistance Version 1.5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted April 28, 2004 He lost the Tag Titles last week after like a 3 week reign. This isn't 1985 when title reigns lasted 3 years. Since the title is worthless with a bunch of worthless tag teams, it means shit who wins it. Giving it to star power like Evolution or Benoit/Edge can at least attempt to get the titles over again. Not by putting them on Jobber tag teams like Hurri-S.H.I.T and La Resistance Version 1.5 Batista is star power? It's not just the tag team titles though. Flair wrestling every week is a disgrace at this point, and no he is not a draw anymore. Ok we better end this since this is turning into a WWE discussion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted April 28, 2004 He lost the Tag Titles last week after like a 3 week reign. This isn't 1985 when title reigns lasted 3 years. Since the title is worthless with a bunch of worthless tag teams, it means shit who wins it. well then I see you agree that Flair/Batista are worthless at this point Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Hot Ticket Report post Posted April 28, 2004 old man is bitter that no one has wanted to see him headline since the 80s. No, not really. *Sigh* Silly TNA marks... nice to see how many people around here assume stuff its cool to talk about stuff as a wrestler about others but not when youre Flair talking about how no one wants to see him headline. Flairs best buyrates came from his WWF ppvs and he made his money back in the 80s. itd be the same thing as Hogan saying someone cant wrestle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted April 28, 2004 old man is bitter that no one has wanted to see him headline since the 80s. No, not really. *Sigh* Silly TNA marks... nice to see how many people around here assume stuff its cool to talk about stuff as a wrestler about others but not when youre Flair talking about how no one wants to see him headline. Flairs best buyrates came from his WWF ppvs and he made his money back in the 80s. itd be the same thing as Hogan saying someone cant wrestle. He kept WCW afloat for YEARS. When ANYTHING bad happened, they turned to him. His return gave Nitro one of its final ratings wins. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest dvkorn Report post Posted April 28, 2004 Raven is a good worker actually, though. If Flair is ripping on Raven 2002-presnet, well ok, but Raven from the mid-late 90's was a good worker, and could work a good match without weapons. Hate to be a little nit-picky but i think 2003 for Raven was one of his best years since the mid 90's.. Awesome feuds and matches... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted April 28, 2004 old man is bitter that no one has wanted to see him headline since the 80s. No, not really. *Sigh* Silly TNA marks... nice to see how many people around here assume stuff its cool to talk about stuff as a wrestler about others but not when youre Flair talking about how no one wants to see him headline. Flairs best buyrates came from his WWF ppvs and he made his money back in the 80s. itd be the same thing as Hogan saying someone cant wrestle. Actually Flair was drawing better alone in 93 and early 94 then what all of TNA's roster put together is right now. Hell, he was even awesome in '99 before the company cut the legs out from under him. Defend TNA's Main Eventers when TNA starts making money... not before. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheBigSwigg 0 Report post Posted April 28, 2004 old man is bitter that no one has wanted to see him headline since the 80s. I was watching him Headline WWF PPV's in the early 90's, and then the WCW PPV's he headlined in the early-mid nineties. To say that he's bitter and to say no one has wanted to see him headline since the 80's is a horrible assumption Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest duck420 Report post Posted April 28, 2004 wrinkled and drunk ric flair is more entertaining than fat sting. i think triple h just keeps filling flairs hip flask and writes a cue card for him during enterviews. ric doesnt even realize hes in an interview he thinks hes still in wcw Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Celtic Jobber 0 Report post Posted May 1, 2004 Ric Flair's been pretty worthless since his feud with Randy Savage ended in 1992. He's an out-of-touch, bitter old man. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KTID 0 Report post Posted May 1, 2004 ...not to mention a talentless idiot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Monday Night Jericho Report post Posted May 1, 2004 Flair's right in the regard that TNA blows monkey balls. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites