Guest MikeSC Report post Posted April 25, 2004 Friends, I have never seen a head so far up a Presidential ass (pardon my Falluja) than the one I saw last night at the "news conference" given by George W. Bush. He's still talking about finding "weapons of mass destruction" -- this time on Saddam's "turkey farm." Turkey indeed. Clearly the White House believes there are enough idiots in the 17 swing states who will buy this. I think they are in for a rude awakening. I've been holed up for weeks in the editing room finishing my film ("Fahrenheit 911"). That's why you haven't heard from me lately. But after last night's Lyndon Johnson impersonation from the East Room -- essentially promising to send even more troops into the Iraq sinkhole -- I had to write you all a note. First, can we stop the Orwellian language and start using the proper names for things? Those are not “contractors” in Iraq. They are not there to fix a roof or to pour concrete in a driveway. They are MERCENARIES and SOLDIERS OF FORTUNE. They are there for the money, and the money is very good if you live long enough to spend it. Halliburton is not a "company" doing business in Iraq. It is a WAR PROFITEER, bilking millions from the pockets of average Americans. In past wars they would have been arrested -- or worse. The Iraqis who have risen up against the occupation are not "insurgents" or "terrorists" or "The Enemy." They are the REVOLUTION, the Minutemen, and their numbers will grow -- and they will win. Get it, Mr. Bush? You closed down a friggin' weekly newspaper, you great giver of freedom and democracy! Then all hell broke loose. The paper only had 10,000 readers! Why are you smirking? One year after we wiped the face of the Saddam statue with our American flag before yanking him down, it is now too dangerous for a single media person to go to that square in Baghdad and file a report on the wonderful one-year anniversary celebration. Of course, there is no celebration, and those brave blow-dried "embeds" can't even leave the safety of the fort in downtown Baghdad. They never actually SEE what is taking place across Iraq (most of the pictures we see on TV are shot by Arab media and some Europeans). When you watch a report "from Iraq" what you are getting is the press release handed out by the U.S. occupation force and repeated to you as "news." I currently have two cameramen/reporters doing work for me in Iraq for my movie (unbeknownst to the Army). They are talking to soldiers and gathering the true sentiment about what is really going on. They Fed Ex the footage back to me each week. That's right, Fed Ex. Who said we haven't brought freedom to Iraq! The funniest story my guys tell me is how when they fly into Baghdad, they don't have to show a passport or go through immigration. Why not? Because they have not traveled from a foreign country -- they're coming from America TO America, a place that is ours, a new American territory called Iraq. There is a lot of talk amongst Bush's opponents that we should turn this war over to the United Nations. Why should the other countries of this world, countries who tried to talk us out of this folly, now have to clean up our mess? I oppose the U.N. or anyone else risking the lives of their citizens to extract us from our debacle. I'm sorry, but the majority of Americans supported this war once it began and, sadly, that majority must now sacrifice their children until enough blood has been let that maybe -- just maybe -- God and the Iraqi people will forgive us in the end. Until then, enjoy the "pacification" of Falluja, the "containment" of Sadr City, and the next Tet Offensive – oops, I mean, "terrorist attack by a small group of Baathist loyalists" (Hahaha! I love writing those words, Baathist loyalists, it makes me sound so Peter Jennings!) -- followed by a "news conference" where we will be told that we must "stay the course" because we are "winning the hearts and minds of the people." I'll write again soon. Don't despair. Remember, the American people are not that stupid. Sure, we can be frightened into a war, but we always come around sooner or later -- and the one way this is NOT like Vietnam is that it hasn't taken the public four long years to figure out they were lied to. Now if Bush would just quit speaking in public and giving me more free material for my movie, I can get back to work and get it done. I've got four weeks left 'til completion. http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/index.ph...Date=2004-04-14 Nice to see Moore trying to go the Jane Fonda route. Hopefully, his movie career will be damaged as savagely as hers was. I seldom wish death upon people --- but will somebody kill this fat tool? -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted April 25, 2004 Don't worry. As fat has Moore is he's due for a massive coronory. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted April 25, 2004 Don't worry. As fat has Moore is he's due for a massive coronory. Is it me --- or is he flat-out ROOTING for us to lose? -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Cerebus Report post Posted April 25, 2004 Right-Thinking.com slammed him for it. Ass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted April 25, 2004 It's not just you. He goes far beyond assorted left-wing pundits. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted April 25, 2004 Wonder if ol' Mikey will win another Academy Award this year for best comedy, err, documentary?... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrRant 0 Report post Posted April 25, 2004 Why couldn't someone else have directed Canadian Bacon? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted April 25, 2004 Like Mikey's going to let someone else direct a film with the word "bacon" in it... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted April 25, 2004 The last mockumentary Moore misused quotes by Charlton Helton. This time I'm guessing he has Osama and George W. in the secret hideout high-fiving during the 9-11 attacks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Highland 0 Report post Posted April 25, 2004 (edited) Everytime he almost gets me to see his point of view with something like this: First, can we stop the Orwellian language and start using the proper names for things? Those are not “contractors” in Iraq. They are not there to fix a roof or to pour concrete in a driveway. They are MERCENARIES and SOLDIERS OF FORTUNE. They are there for the money, and the money is very good if you live long enough to spend it. Halliburton is not a "company" doing business in Iraq. It is a WAR PROFITEER, bilking millions from the pockets of average Americans. In past wars they would have been arrested -- or worse. He then loses me completely when he utters something like.... The Iraqis who have risen up against the occupation are not "insurgents" or "terrorists" or "The Enemy." They are the REVOLUTION, the Minutemen, and their numbers will grow -- and they will win. You can keep Michael Moore, we have enough trouble with seditionists of our own without having to deal with any more. Edited April 25, 2004 by Naibus Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted April 25, 2004 Mikey should have some Arab riding a camel yelling out "The Infidels are coming! The Infidels are coming!" for his opening sequence in this next movie of his... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted April 25, 2004 Why couldn't someone else have directed Canadian Bacon? I almost feel dirty for having enjoyed it. John Candy: I can tell you one thing...this Canadian beer sucks. (huge brawl breaks out). That and the Canadian police requiring the "invasion" to paint all of their anti-Canada slogans in English AND French was almost inspired. What the heck happened to him? Did all of the cholesterol cause a stroke? -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vyce 0 Report post Posted April 25, 2004 Wow. If he had any credibility before this latest tirade, he's trying very hard to make sure it's all completely erroded away now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted April 25, 2004 Everytime he almost gets me to see his point of view with something like this: He then loses me completely when he utters something like.... Yup. I read the opening of Stupid White Men and gaining interest in the book, but then I got to the race chapter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wrestlingbs Report post Posted April 25, 2004 Don't worry. As fat has Moore is he's due for a massive coronory. Now come on. The guy sounds like a jackass but that isn't reason enough to wish death on him. The way I see it is, with Moore you get a mixed bag. Sometimes he can be funny. Sometimes he can make you think. And sometimes he says things so extremist and idiotic you may have to slap the guy. But don't dismiss all of his work. Bowling for Columbine may have been a biased look at the NRA and guns in America, but it did bring up some good points. For instance, the culture of fear some Americans wrap themselves in, which makes them want to attack others. And while I hope to God the US can find a solution to the situation in Iraq, that doesn't mean I've completely forgiven Bush. However, I think that in the "mixed bag" that is Micheal Moore, this letter goes under the "slap him in the face" catagory. I think he's looking for conspiracies and Orwell metaphors where there are none. And it sounds like his next film is gonna be more arrogant than inspiring. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Cerebus Report post Posted April 25, 2004 Everytime he almost gets me to see his point of view with something like this: He then loses me completely when he utters something like.... Yup. I read the opening of Stupid White Men and gaining interest in the book, but then I got to the race chapter. I opened it at random and read him felattioing (sp?) Jimmy Carter and put it back on the bookstore shelf. I have never picked it up again, nor will I. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest I Got Banned for Sucking Report post Posted April 25, 2004 Michael Moore is annoying, but he did bring us Bowling for Columbine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted April 25, 2004 Michael Moore is annoying, but he did bring us Bowling for Columbine. What's your point? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobobrazil1984 0 Report post Posted April 25, 2004 *snort* ideologue. I hate people like Michael Moore, ann coulter, michael savage, and <insert ideologue here> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest I Got Banned for Sucking Report post Posted April 25, 2004 Michael Moore is annoying, but he did bring us Bowling for Columbine. What's your point? He's very entertaining is my point, even if you do sometimes feel like slapping him in the face. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BUTT 0 Report post Posted April 25, 2004 You know, in Roger and Me, he seemed like a fairly normal and stable man. But now all the attention he got has gone to his head and now he seems to think he's some sort of freedom fighter, this anti-government warrior. The man has gone crazy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrRant 0 Report post Posted April 25, 2004 Michael Moore is annoying, but he did bring us Bowling for Columbine. What's your point? He's very entertaining is my point, even if you do sometimes feel like slapping him in the face. Is there any way you can be neutered? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest I Got Banned for Sucking Report post Posted April 25, 2004 Michael Moore is annoying, but he did bring us Bowling for Columbine. What's your point? He's very entertaining is my point, even if you do sometimes feel like slapping him in the face. Is there any way you can be neutered? I don't know about being neutered, but I'm neutral in my feelings towards Michael Moore. Well, sort of. I wish you would be slapped. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jorge Gorgeous 0 Report post Posted April 25, 2004 Most of you guys can't see the forest for the trees. Moore is an extremist, no-doubt, and he uses extreme images to convey his ideas - but you need to be a little extreme to get people to pay attention in this day and age. The man's ideas are solid. You have to let go of any presumptions and look at Iraq right now. We go to war based on the idea that Sadaam has WMDs and we don't find shit once we get there. I KNOW Sadaam is a rotten bastard, and his sons may have been even worse and I'm glad they're dead now but over 700 American soldiers are dead now too. HALF that many died in the first Iraqi conflict and half of THOSE were from friendly fire. I wouldn't say Michael Moore is pulling a Fonda, seeing as how she went to North Vietnam and sat on a fucking cannon and all Moore is doing is offering a dissenting opinion. If we come up with a solid plan, one that the Iraqis are heavily involved in forming, I'm all for us winning this war. Hindsight may show that it was all worth it, however, with the way things are going right now, it doesn't look very likely. If we keep up this limbo, do-nothing pace in Iraq I hope we DO lose this war and I hope we lose it tomorrow. If you really love and support the people who are in Iraq (Not Washington D.C.) I think it makes more sense to want them home. It will be interesting to see his next movie, because if nothing else, they're entertaining documentaries. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest I Got Banned for Sucking Report post Posted April 25, 2004 JHawk! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted April 25, 2004 I no longer know who is more insane: Mel Gibson or Michael Moore. It's probably not fair to try and judge now. Moore has obviously went off a very deep end. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted April 25, 2004 Please, Mel is Single-A at best. Mikey is Yankee Stadium... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest thebigjig Report post Posted April 25, 2004 While Bowling for Columbine made me proud to be a Michael Moore fan... those comments make me fucking want to vomit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhenDanSaysJump 0 Report post Posted April 25, 2004 I actually like MM most of the time, but I'd love to slap him just to watch the flab fly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hogan Made Wrestling 0 Report post Posted April 25, 2004 Why does all of Moore's "political commentary" read like it was written for a web blog? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites