Is there a worse finisher than the Spear

[Corey_Lazarus 0]

Re; BookEnd

What are you talking about "weak"? Booker gets them in the head-and-arm position, lifts them up and pushes their legs back, and basically drives them up down on the back of their neck and upper shoulders. Looks eons better than the Rock Bottom, even if they're both the same core move just performed a little differently.

 

Why don't they have Cena do the Godsmack? Fireman's Carry -> Airplane Spin -> Ace Crusher. Looks BITCHING, and very easy to do. Sure, doing it to a larger opponent would be a pain...but whatever.

[Guest Korgath]

I believe my whole problem with Edge's Spear is that he's doing it so soon after Goldberg left. Say what you like, but after seeing Goldberg pull of the Spear for a whole year, Edge's version just blows.

 

And yes, screw the people who made Rhyno's Gore look pathetic next to Edge. The Gore uses the left shoulder to connect. It should stay Rhyno's trademark.

[Guest Banders Kennany]

I don't like it because it downplays Rhyno's, the man who I feel has the more effective spear. Edge and his weakling physique make it look bad, Anglesault is right on the money here.

[Steviekick 0]

I thought Booker T had been using the BookEnd.

 

Oh well.

 

 

 

He could always go back to the Sidwalk Slam or the HeatSeeker.

You say Bookend like it's THAT much better. Both are weak as fuck. The heatseeker was pretty cool though. I wouldn't mind seeing him go back to that, but not as a heel.

You mean the 110th Street Slam? I thought that was a spinebuster delivered more like Hardcore Holly's Alabamaslama.

[AndrewTS 0]

Steven Richards was trying to use a vertical suplex as a finish. It was the same as a regular version except that he'd raise an arm before doing it.

 

I don't think it actually ever finished anyone, though; correct me if I'm wrong.

 

It's a shame he went to that after using the Stevie-T; I really liked that move.

[Guest wrestlingbs]

Edge's submission hold was a standing Nagata Lock right? I almost thought he was going to do it tonight in the tag when he did the crooked half crab...but it was not meant to be.

Hmmm if you referring to something resembling a sharpshooter turned round into almost a anklelock position..... then yea I um guess.

I think it was called the Excellence of Edg-e-cution, or something like that.

 

I hate Test's full-nelson slam. He never seems to do it right.

[Guest I Got Banned for Sucking]

Edge's submission hold was a standing Nagata Lock right? I almost thought he was going to do it tonight in the tag when he did the crooked half crab...but it was not meant to be.

Hmmm if you referring to something resembling a sharpshooter turned round into almost a anklelock position..... then yea I um guess.

I think it was called the Excellence of Edg-e-cution, or something like that.

 

I hate Test's full-nelson slam. He never seems to do it right.

It's not like he ever uses it anymore - when he's in the ring now, he uses the Pumphandle Slam - he does it reasonably well.

 

At least that's one thing.

[Guest Trivia247]

Edge's submission hold was a standing Nagata Lock right? I almost thought he was going to do it tonight in the tag when he did the crooked half crab...but it was not meant to be.

Hmmm if you referring to something resembling a sharpshooter turned round into almost a anklelock position..... then yea I um guess.

I think it was called the Excellence of Edg-e-cution, or something like that.

 

I hate Test's full-nelson slam. He never seems to do it right.

It's not like he ever uses it anymore - when he's in the ring now, he uses the Pumphandle Slam - he does it reasonably well.

 

At least that's one thing.

they should have left him with the Pumphandle Powerslam I liked the Melt down..but Nooooo Test has to be Mister Multiple Finisher try to get over guy

 

Pumphandle Powerslam

 

Full nelson Slam

 

Top rope elbow drop

 

Running Boot

 

Test Drive

 

Next is the

 

Lost in the Low carding Gutwrench Suplex

[Guest I Got Banned for Sucking]

Edge's submission hold was a standing Nagata Lock right? I almost thought he was going to do it tonight in the tag when he did the crooked half crab...but it was not meant to be.

Hmmm if you referring to something resembling a sharpshooter turned round into almost a anklelock position..... then yea I um guess.

I think it was called the Excellence of Edg-e-cution, or something like that.

 

I hate Test's full-nelson slam. He never seems to do it right.

It's not like he ever uses it anymore - when he's in the ring now, he uses the Pumphandle Slam - he does it reasonably well.

 

At least that's one thing.

they should have left him with the Pumphandle Powerslam I liked the Melt down..but Nooooo Test has to be Mister Multiple Finisher try to get over guy

 

Pumphandle Powerslam

 

Full nelson Slam

 

Top rope elbow drop

 

Running Boot

 

Test Drive

 

Next is the

 

Lost in the Low carding Gutwrench Suplex

It's more a case of his finisher/s changing a lot.

 

Remember when Kevin Nash jobbed to a big boot?

 

I don't care what happened before it.

[King Cucaracha 0]

As far as Edge using the Edgeucution...Christian's started using Gangrel's Impaler DDT recently, which is basically the same move. So maybe that's why he doesn't use that. Plus it's technically a head-drop move, so maybe it's been adjudged to dangerous to use.

[DCMaximo 0]

I thought Booker T had been using the BookEnd.

 

Oh well.

 

 

 

He could always go back to the Sidwalk Slam or the HeatSeeker.

You say Bookend like it's THAT much better. Both are weak as fuck. The heatseeker was pretty cool though. I wouldn't mind seeing him go back to that, but not as a heel.

You mean the 110th Street Slam? I thought that was a spinebuster delivered more like Hardcore Holly's Alabamaslama.

I thought the HeatSeeker was a missile dropkick?

[Scroby 0]

I can think of one, HBK's old Finisher, the samoen drop.

[Guest cobainwasmurdered]

Re; BookEnd

What are you talking about "weak"? Booker gets them in the head-and-arm position, lifts them up and pushes their legs back, and basically drives them up down on the back of their neck and upper shoulders. Looks eons better than the Rock Bottom, even if they're both the same core move just performed a little differently.

 

Indeed, when done correctly it looks far more devastating than the Rock Bottom.

[Guest Frank_Nabbit]

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[Kahran Ramsus 0]

I can think of one, HBK's old Finisher, the samoen drop.

He used that? I remember his flying fist drop, his Teardrop Suplex, and his piledriver, but I don't remember that one. He has had a history of crappy finishers though so its not too surprising.

[TheBigSwigg 0]

I don't mind Superkicks as long as only one person is doing it. But, up until a week or so ago there were several in WWE:

 

Lance Storm

Steven Richards(on occasion)

Shelton Benjamin

HBK

 

and possibly more.

 

Finisher's are only really good when one person does them. It gives the illusion that they are the only one capable of performing them, which is why stealing finisher's is supposed to be such a big deal. This is why Chokeslams, Big Boots, Powerbombs, and Superkicks aren't that good anymore.

[Guest PowerPB13]

Olympic Slam...it's a glorified belly-to-back suplex, man...

 

 

-Patrick

[Dace59 0]

No, no it's not.

 

As for only one person being able to do a finisher... with most of them being such simple parts of wrestling that really doesn't work.

Rather it's the one move they know inside out and have prefected to a leathel move, that's a better way.

[Scroby 0]

He used that? I remember his flying fist drop, his Teardrop Suplex, and his piledriver, but I don't remember that one. He has had a history of crappy finishers though so its not too surprising

 

Yup HBK sure did use the Samoen backdrop as a finisher, right before he started using the superkick. I remember this because when I played the game Royal Rumble on the Genesis, I used that move all the time. Helped me get an easy win.

[Kahran Ramsus 0]

He used that? I remember his flying fist drop, his Teardrop Suplex, and his piledriver, but I don't remember that one. He has had a history of crappy finishers though so its not too surprising

 

Yup HBK sure did use the Samoen backdrop as a finisher, right before he started using the superkick. I remember this because when I played the game Royal Rumble on the Genesis, I used that move all the time. Helped me get an easy win.

Hmmm...he uses the Teardrop Suplex on Royal Rumble & RAW on the SNES.

[AndrewTS 0]

He uses the Teardrop on Genesis Rumble, too. It's just called "Back Suplex" though.

 

Say, when did he do that nifty dropkick where he levitates in the air spinning around and then dropkicks you out of the ring in real life? It was in the 16 bit Raw games.

[Guest mickberna]

I thought Booker T had been using the BookEnd.

 

Oh well.

 

 

 

He could always go back to the Sidwalk Slam or the HeatSeeker.

You say Bookend like it's THAT much better. Both are weak as fuck. The heatseeker was pretty cool though. I wouldn't mind seeing him go back to that, but not as a heel.

You mean the 110th Street Slam? I thought that was a spinebuster delivered more like Hardcore Holly's Alabamaslama.

I thought the HeatSeeker was a missile dropkick?

Speaking of Booker T, it seems we've forgotten his greatest move... the Hangover. That move kicked so much ass, damnit! I know Booker's getting up there in age, but I hope he busts that move out one more time before he retires.

[Slickster 0]

Revoke my smark card if you must, but what ARE these moves (from the KMthread linked here):

 

Bombs Away

Hangman's Hold

Oriental Spike

Indian Deathlock

Slingshot Suplex

The Claw (von Erich style)

 

?

[Dace59 0]

Slingshot Suplex: Set up for suplex, facing the ropes. Lift opps up and drop them guy first across the top rope, as they bounce backwards, snap backwards into a suplex.

 

Indian Deathlock

Opp face up on back, stand between legs, wrap one leg arond yours and cross it under the other legs (eg, the other way to a figure four so they're almost lotus style) then stand or kneel on the other knee. This forces their legs apart even through they are cross. Often a miss call of the INVERTED Indian Deathlock.

 

Inverted Indian Deathlock: Opp is face down on the mat, take their legs and cross them over each other at the ankles. Place you foot between their legs. Hook their feet behind your leg. Now fall or lean backwards, pressing their legs together and back on themsleves.

 

The Claw: Claw hold on places (Face and shoulder, eg) with the fingers spread out to press down on preasure points in that area.

 

Bombs Away: Superplex followed by a Frog Splash from partner.

[Guest Askewniverse]

Dace, isn't Bombs Away the name of Ray Stevens' top-rope kneedrop?

[alfdogg 0]

Wow, it's April 2002 all over again...

[Dace59 0]

Dace, isn't Bombs Away the name of Ray Stevens' top-rope kneedrop?

It probably is, just the D'lo/Chaz double team came to mind first. As i answered at 7:20 in the morning.