TheBigSwigg 0 Report post Posted April 29, 2004 Since we've already talked worst finsihers, how about the worst trademark or setup moves. I'm going with Spinaroonie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted April 29, 2004 The move that everybody does.........the kick to the midsection. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChick 0 Report post Posted April 29, 2004 Lita's monkeyflip. It looks just...weird. And kind of stupid, no less. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crimson Platypus 0 Report post Posted April 29, 2004 Anything involving a whip to the ropes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest slacklet Report post Posted April 29, 2004 Lionsault = Teh Gay Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhenDanSaysJump 0 Report post Posted April 29, 2004 I wish the Worm counted, but good lord, it's actually a finisher. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
reign 0 Report post Posted April 29, 2004 While it may be cool for the live crowd I get annoyed watching guys wait in the corner,perched for the dreaded spear or Sweet Chin Music(while we're at it how about a stupidest finisher names thread) or when the Rock would wait for his opponent to get up to Rock Bottom him...just waiting in general always seemed stupid to me when you trying to beat the hell outta somebody Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Amazing Rando 0 Report post Posted April 29, 2004 I always considered the "waiting" to be some badass ego stroking thing... like "i could beat you now, but i'd rather wait and be a dick about it" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jester 0 Report post Posted April 29, 2004 Since we've already talked worst finsihers, how about the worst trademark or setup moves. I'm going with Spinaroonie. Yeah. There have been many occasions when Booker has stopped to do it mid-match and ended up losing, making him look like an idiot. It should be used post-match only. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Repo Man Reborn Report post Posted April 29, 2004 I think H's face to the knee buster is stupid because if it were real, the pressure of driving your opponent's face into your knee while driving your knee down would be painful for both. And since it's not real, it just looks GHEY. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Goodear Report post Posted April 29, 2004 How we got so many posts in without mentioning the followng spot I do not know. But say it with me... YOU CAN'T POWERBOMB KIDMAN!!! I'd also nominate a Basham Brothers spot... but they don't have any. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Cucaracha 0 Report post Posted April 29, 2004 Nobody's mentioned the Stinkface yet? Let alone the way everyone falls in perfect position for it. Also the whole 'two guys on the top rope, the one facing out to the cowd gets pushed off and manages to land in perfect position for the opponent to hit his top rope finisher' is starting to get very old, very quickly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dace59 0 Report post Posted April 29, 2004 The contrived selling and/or bumping to get into the right place for moves is a major point as people have brought up. If wrestlers used different ways to set up those moves (619, Stinkface) in matches, or used the set up parts as normal without always going for the move, it would be ok. Eg with the 619, Rey could just used the drop toe hold into the ropes (or even the buckles) as a normal move, and do other spots like dropping a leg or doing a splash on them. As for the pushed off the ropes... RVD sort of breaks that, while you have to land in some way to make the move safe to hit, land at different angles. So the attacker can just make simple turns in the air to land the move. Or just use other take off the top spots. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Cucaracha 0 Report post Posted April 29, 2004 Yeah, RVD's 5 Star is the exception. The problem is more when the person on the mat moves themself around into position, which more often than not looks mighty dumb. While I'm here, might as well add the 'missed avalanche into Clothesline From Hell' spot that never seems to go away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Masked Man of Mystery 0 Report post Posted April 29, 2004 How we got so many posts in without mentioning the followng spot I do not know. But say it with me... YOU CAN'T POWERBOMB KIDMAN!!! I'd also nominate a Basham Brothers spot... but they don't have any. Please explain, I've never heard anything about that. Does he just refuse to take the spot or something? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted April 29, 2004 I'd also nominate a Basham Brothers spot... but they don't have any. Damn, beat me to it. I nominate the five shuffle whatever and the sneaker pump. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Amazing Rando 0 Report post Posted April 29, 2004 Well there are alot of silly time-wasting moves out there... Rocky pulling off the elbow pad Foley and the sock GMS and his goggles Sweet Chin Music set-up HHH pausing after getting the arms hooked THE STRAP PULL DOWN~! You could go so far as to say that even when Macho man used to throw his arms up in the air before dropping the elbow. i'm sure i'm forgetting a few... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dace59 0 Report post Posted April 29, 2004 How we got so many posts in without mentioning the followng spot I do not know. But say it with me... YOU CAN'T POWERBOMB KIDMAN!!! I'd also nominate a Basham Brothers spot... but they don't have any. Please explain, I've never heard anything about that. Does he just refuse to take the spot or something? It's a spot he did all the time in WCW, and in the WWE for a bit as well. Whenever someoned faced Kidman, they would always try to powerbomb him (for the sake of the spot) and he would shift his weight and counter it by falling into an X Factor (sometimes) kneeling. He'd do this to everyone. It's contrived, and people that don't used powerbombs would try it on him anyway. And yer Maddix, moving around on the mat looks really bad. Just stay still. They can hit the spot anyway. If you can't do that move safely, do something else like a leg drop. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisMWaters 0 Report post Posted April 29, 2004 Foley and the sock I personally consider Foley using Mr. Socko more of a protection thing than a waste of time. Think about it, by the time he re-became Mankind after being Dude Love in 1998, he no longer had the finger covering that he used for his fingers as the Original version of Mankind. Mr. Socko was that covering's replacement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jester 0 Report post Posted April 29, 2004 I don't mind a little pause to show off, especially if it's an arrogant heel type. But certain moves are just too contrived and take way too long. Like the Spinaroonie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisMWaters 0 Report post Posted April 29, 2004 jester: While I do agree with you that the way that WWE has Booker T use the Spinaroonie nowadays, at least back in WCW it was only used as a modified version of a nip/kip up for after he did the Scissors Kick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Trivia247 Report post Posted April 29, 2004 How about moves that are simply out of order? HBK sets up his Superkick with....a Flying Elbow! a Move that has more Main event feel than some silly setup. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted April 29, 2004 I think H's face to the knee buster is stupid because if it were real, the pressure of driving your opponent's face into your knee while driving your knee down would be painful for both. And since it's not real, it just looks GHEY. If it was real it could knock the guy on the receiving end out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dace59 0 Report post Posted April 29, 2004 While you can bring up the whole thing about how the move is built up, there is another problem which is what you're getting At. Why is a flying move, something which almost always needs to be set up with other moves, being user as a set up move itself for a ground based striking attack? That breaks a few logic and move culter conventions there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted April 29, 2004 I think H's face to the knee buster is stupid because if it were real, the pressure of driving your opponent's face into your knee while driving your knee down would be painful for both. And since it's not real, it just looks GHEY. If it was real it could knock the guy on the receiving end out. Or break their nose. It wouldn't hurt the knee very much at al. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Trivia247 Report post Posted April 29, 2004 While you can bring up the whole thing about how the move is built up, there is another problem which is what you're getting At. Why is a flying move, something which almost always needs to be set up with other moves, being user as a set up move itself for a ground based striking attack? That breaks a few logic and move culter conventions there. Its like the old saying how these are High risk Maneuvers.... if its so High risk why are you risking yourself doing it, just to get up hobble over and stomp your foot in the corner in order to miss a kick anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Amazing Rando 0 Report post Posted April 29, 2004 Foley and the sock I personally consider Foley using Mr. Socko more of a protection thing than a waste of time. Think about it, by the time he re-became Mankind after being Dude Love in 1998, he no longer had the finger covering that he used for his fingers as the Original version of Mankind. Mr. Socko was that covering's replacement. Yeah...but according to Foley (in his first book) the Mandible Claw couldn't be countered by biting because it just completely shocked the nervous system (a piece of kayfabe that was forgotten kind of quickly, but i always thought it was a great little bit of story and made Mankind a devestating character in that sense) So yeah...I see the point...but it originally wasn't like that, and the covering as just to make his hand looked deformed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted April 29, 2004 While you can bring up the whole thing about how the move is built up, there is another problem which is what you're getting At. Why is a flying move, something which almost always needs to be set up with other moves, being user as a set up move itself for a ground based striking attack? That breaks a few logic and move culter conventions there. Because it puts the guy out for about ten to fifteen seconds so HBK cna do his "Warming up the Band" schtick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Trivia247 Report post Posted April 29, 2004 Foley and the sock I personally consider Foley using Mr. Socko more of a protection thing than a waste of time. Think about it, by the time he re-became Mankind after being Dude Love in 1998, he no longer had the finger covering that he used for his fingers as the Original version of Mankind. Mr. Socko was that covering's replacement. Yeah...but according to Foley (in his first book) the Mandible Claw couldn't be countered by biting because it just completely shocked the nervous system (a piece of kayfabe that was forgotten kind of quickly, but i always thought it was a great little bit of story and made Mankind a devestating character in that sense) So yeah...I see the point...but it originally wasn't like that, and the covering as just to make his hand looked deformed it also made the move look more vicious even if its not for protection, someone is shoving both fingers and Thick leather covering into your mouth and simulatedly down your throat....... oww Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Amazing Rando 0 Report post Posted April 29, 2004 it didn't go down your throat...it went under the tongue and then the thumb (on the underside of the chin) and the fingers would clamp together. Try it just a little...it fucking HURTS Share this post Link to post Share on other sites